Can you believe this _________?

[Mossy]

The theory behind all this BS is that those who shout early, and shout the loudest will eventually win.........it does not have to be the truth as far as they are concerned.

 

[rothenbj]

Good job Uma. I read your breakdown as I was finishing up a couple vanilla cupcakes. Was I not supposed to enjoy them because I'm many decades from being a child? If they are made only for the children, why have they not put adult proof packaging on the product? I'm so upset about these thoughts, I may have to go to the grocery store and pick up a container of Strawberry Ice Cream in an act of civil disobedience.

 

[Nate760]

“People are not using e-cigarettes to quit smoking but are using them to maintain their smoking habits.”

“We are seeing flavorings that are most appealing to kids — cookies and cream, strawberry. These are not flavors that are going to appeal to adults who have been smoking for decades.”

Bad enough that these people routinely lie without any apparent compunction, but when some guy I've never met tries to tell me what I like and don't like, what goes on in my own mind and what happens in my own life, that actually makes me want to punch somebody.

 

[Nate760]

The part about nicotine in the liquid beeing extremely addicting is laughable, the amount of post on here about people dropping down to 0 nic every week is outstanding. If it were as addicting as their 'studies' show you'd think everyone would be increasing not dropping down.

You'll notice the whole trope about nicotine being "one of the most addictive substances known" is only ever used in reference to cigarettes and e-cigs, and not any other nicotine product. And it's particularly ironic when someone from the FDA says it, since their own agency's official stance is that NRTs have such a low potential for abuse and such a minimal dependence/addiction profile that there is no apparent cause for concern in their indefinite long-term use, even by children as young as 12.

 

[Roger_Lafayette]

Maggie Fox wrote almost the same article a week or so before the reg.s came out. I recognize some of these other paragraphs from even earlier MSNBC stories.

She has a kind of "Mr. Potato Head" approach to churning them out. It's all boilerplate, repeatedly served up week after dreadful week.

Kinda like lunch at a school cafeteria. Except they serve "mystery facts" not "mystery meat."

 

[aubergine]

I remember when Mr Potato Head was a bunch of plastic noses and eyes that you stuck on a real potato. I'm that old.

I understand that in an effort to anticipate upcoming regulations and accommodate popular concerns, Philip Morris is developing a potato-flavored e-cig to be marketed to "the adult vaping community, which has surely outgrown any childish preoccupation with flavor."
It will appeal to natural food enthusiasts, also, as any nicotine content will come from the potato. Which does secrete a little nicotine.
It will be brown, the mature person's color of choice.
If you don't like it, have a Marlboro.
They got ya covered.

 

[jpargana]

You'll notice the whole trope about nicotine being "one of the most addictive substances known" is only ever used in reference to cigarettes and e-cigs, and not any other nicotine product. And it's particularly ironic when someone from the FDA says it, since their own agency's official stance is that NRTs have such a low potential for abuse and such a minimal dependence/addiction profile that there is no apparent cause for concern in their indefinite long-term use, even by children as young as 12.

So there !!!!

 

[rothenbj]

You'll notice the whole trope about nicotine being "one of the most addictive substances known" is only ever used in reference to cigarettes and e-cigs, and not any other nicotine product. And it's particularly ironic when someone from the FDA says it, since their own agency's official stance is that NRTs have such a low potential for abuse and such a minimal dependence/addiction profile that there is no apparent cause for concern in their indefinite long-term use, even by children as young as 12.

Yeah, but that's pharmaceutical nicotine, the only good nicotine. <heavy sarcasm alert>

 

[Anjaffm]

What's with all those repeated "statements" about adults not liking flavors?

"Adults do not like flavors" "Strawberry shortcake appeals only to children" and blather blather ad nauseam.

Say, is THAT the reason why you won't find one single overweight adult in the entire world?
All these skinny, emaciated adults in the US, in Europe, in Asia... Not one single chubby - let alone obese - adult to be found everywhere. Not one!
You know, when you turn 18, all your taste buds shrivel and die. And due to that transformation, flavors are actually distasteful to adults. So adults subsist on gruel and tap water, being careful not to put any of those horrible "flavors" into their mouths.

Yes, yes, all those skinny emaciated adults populating the world..... and all that processed food in supermarkets, only for "the chiiiildren"....

(heavy sarcasm - exactly what is needed for baldfaced lies)

/edit:
You may not be able to comment on the article. But the writer is on Facebook (even shown below the article) - (And I do not care in the least if she blocks me )

 

[mountainbikermark]

Would you expect an accurate, fair and unbiased story from NBC, creator of MSNBC on vaping? That would be like expecting a lion to be a vegetarian. NBC is fully aware that some of their favorite politicians, specifically, Sens. Durbin (D-Ill.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Edward Markey (D-Mass.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), and Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.) have all called for vaping to be banned. NBC is simply doing their part to support these politicians in their efforts to protect the country. Should we really expect anything different from a national news organization like NBC?

Or any American media outlet. If I want the truth about politics and medical news going on in this country I watch European or Mexican news. They've got no financial dog in the hunt .

 

[SensesFailed]

I'm thankful that only 'news' about ecigs in the media is the only grossly distorted, inaccurate news we get!

What's really sad, is that I've seen articles on Huffington Post that promotes the use of e-cigs as a better alternative to smoking, while only promoting propaganda articles on their facebook page. It's actually pretty damn sad.

 

[militiascene]

Would you expect an accurate, fair and unbiased story from NBC, creator of MSNBC on vaping? That would be like expecting a lion to be a vegetarian. NBC is fully aware that some of their favorite politicians, specifically, Sens. Durbin (D-Ill.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Edward Markey (D-Mass.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), and Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.) have all called for vaping to be banned. NBC is simply doing their part to support these politicians in their efforts to protect the country. Should we really expect anything different from a national news organization like NBC?

Haha! Look at all the "D" marks for each politician. Does "D" stand for dipstick or dumbarse or degenerate?

 

[qreepii]

Wouldn't surprise me that big tobacco is enjoying the possibility of snuffing out the competition.

 

[jpargana]

You may not be able to comment on the article. But the writer is on Facebook (even shown below the article) - (And I do not care in the least if she blocks me )

If that poor soul had something remotely like a brain (which clearly he does not), that would be exactly what he would do. Preemptive style !!!