Well that certainly would be nice but impossible for most of us that choose to vape as a less damaging alternative to anolog cigs. I'm a nic junkie and cold turkey just doesn't work for me. Sorry!
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Well that certainly would be nice but impossible for most of us that choose to vape as a less damaging alternative to anolog cigs. I'm a nic junkie and cold turkey just doesn't work for me. Sorry!
You think those things cause depression and anxiety! You should see me without them! You'd take Prozac just to deal with me!
You nailed it Vollrath. Cheers to us healthier nic junkies! LOL!
Tobacco combustion that creates tar is the leading cause of cancer in smokers. The carbon monoxide is the leading cause of vascular and heart problems. Many ingredients on ejuice include synthetic nicotine which is made in the lab and not always from tobacco. The biggest problem with many products that we consume isn't any of the chemicals or products that are used to produce our food and other consumables - it's the 'no threshhold' standard of the EPA that states that any part per trillion or greater if able to be measured is considered 'carcinogenic' - it's what the gov't uses to attempt to regulate businesses and grab some of their money in contributions to politicians who write the regulations for those businesses. But in order to do that - they have to send out scare tactics like this to 'convince' the unwashed masses that there's a problem (when there really isn't), so as to garner enough support of causes like this and other stuff like the hoax of global warming, the hoax of the spotted owl and a whole host of other regulations that's bring this country to it's knees.
First time I've heard that.
Do you have any information about anyone using synthetic nicotine?
I'd love to learn more about it.
Preface: I didn't read the whole thread.
If you are able to quit smoking without using e-cigs (or any FDA approved cessation products) then good for you! That's not what e-cigs were designed for. E-cigs are not a smoking cessation device, they are for people who would otherwise continue to smoke cigarettes. They are only a reduced harm alternative to traditional cigarettes. As it happens, one side effect of e-cig use is smoking cessation.
That being said... nicotine is not a carcinogen, neither is PG or VG. Testing has shown that e-cigs contain 8 nanograms of nitrosamines (the major cancer causing agent) in an average one day supply, this amount is similar to what you get in nicorette gum. Tobacco cigarettes contain 126,000 nanograms of nitrosamines in an average one day supply.
So, for me, the choices are clear:
• continue to smoke tobacco cigarettes
• try (for the hundredth time) to quit again (and likely fail.... again, as 95% of those who quit smoking do)
• use the reduced harm alternative; e-cigarettes
If you are able to quit smoking without using e-cigs (or any FDA approved cessation products) then good for you! That's not what e-cigs were designed for. E-cigs are not a smoking cessation device, they are for people who would otherwise continue to smoke cigarettes. They are only a reduced harm alternative to traditional cigarettes. As it happens, one side effect of e-cig use is smoking cessation.
That being said... nicotine is not a carcinogen, neither is PG or VG. Testing has shown that e-cigs contain 8 nanograms of nitrosamines (the major cancer causing agent) in an average one day supply, this amount is similar to what you get in nicorette gum. Tobacco cigarettes contain 126,000 nanograms of nitrosamines in an average one day supply.
So, for me, the choices are clear:
• continue to smoke tobacco cigarettes
• try (for the hundredth time) to quit again (and likely fail.... again, as 95% of those who quit smoking do)
• use the reduced harm alternative; e-cigarettes
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When it comes to e-cigs and those somewhat or entirely ignorant to them I seem to find two standard views: One is fear of the unknowns of e-cig use and thus fear of the idea itself, while the other could almost be called an over-zealous appraisal for them (rare), mostly from smokers who are tired of trying to quit. It's human nature- we tend to see what we want to believe when something gives us hope, but when we do not entirely understand something we might demonize it without much objective thought whatsoever. Yes, analog cigarettes are horrible for you, but most people already KNOW this so they come to terms with it. E-cigs work very differently to a degree that many people-- even many users-- do not understand. So, to these people, E-cigs might as well be worse than analogs simply because there is an unknown factor; no matter how big or small it is. Of course, anyone who has researched the subject enough knows that e-cigs carry much less risk of harm than analogs, yet even some of them will remain skeptical that they are actually a healthier alternative simply because it's hard to wrap ones mind around something that feels so much like a cigarette but doesn't harm you nearly as much, if at all.
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I vaped with an e-cig once and then a few hours later I got attacked by a fricken bear. Might be completely unrelated to e-cig use but it's something to think about~~!
I doubt you quit OP...I think your a failed vaper/smoker who is ...... off he could not do it and is tring to start a thread to scare people off of ecigs..bannnnnnnn the troll!
Processed sugar is up there, but I would say the most addictive substances are air and water. I just can't seem to live without them!
JC was using - don't know if it still is - a synthetic nicotine from 'pukeweed' - in the same family as tobacco. It's sold on the market as lobelia - it's been so long ago now I don't have any links for you. One of the woman vets had much info on it - you might do a search for 'lobelia' here...
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So would I. If a supplier isn't using tobacco then they're probably using other plants. All the nightshade plants contain nic and afaik it's still cheaper than synthesis. niteshade plants - Google Search
As I understood it at the time - they were 'synthesizing' it using lobelia rather than tobacco absolute - but then they're probably radiating pukeweed too!
Why thank you. A bit of a photoshop job. My former hobby before ecigs
I actually still do some. Same with the madmen sig pic.
I look at it this way, the FDA has been trying everything they possibly can to stop e-cigarettes at the borders and outlaw them as unapproved drug delivery devices. If they could have found something dangerous in them they would have, instead of spreading a bunch of half truths.
Water intoxication - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Read that, I urge all of you, put down the H2O. IT COULD KILL YOU. I JUST SAVED UR LYFE!
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