Cannot Get 4Nine To Work

[Cullin Kin]

The raised copper rings around the magnets in both the switch and delrin battery piece need to touch for the mod to fire, if the magnet is raised they will not contact and not fire. Also the black delrin battery piece can't be too high, need that copper ring to stick out a bit. I put the delrin piece on my battery and then "screw" it down until the delrin is snug on the battery and the copper ring is sticking out a bit. Hope that makes sense.

I had a 4nine clone where it appeared to have too much glue under one side of the magnet in the switch and would not fire because the magnet stuck up over the copper ring, I had to take the magnet out, clean all the glue and replace the magnet to where it sits below the copper ring. Works beautifully now. I use VTC5's btw, never had an issue, they work flawlessly..

Edit to add: mine is not an infinite clone, so I don't have/need an extra magnet. So my post may be irrelevant, sorry

Yeah, the Infinite somehow uses that extra magnet but not with mine. The second I took that thing out, the Copper Ring on the switch and the brass ring in the delrin insulator with the magnet were able to make contact and it fired. The throw is super freaking long though without that magnet.

 

[crxess]

You know, if you had a multimeter you could see of that magnet was coated or conductive in about a minute.

 

[nelsonm64]

Yeah, the Infinite somehow uses that extra magnet but not with mine. The second I took that thing out, the Copper Ring on the switch and the brass ring in the delrin insulator with the magnet were able to make contact and it fired. The throw is super freaking long though without that magnet.

what mode are you using the mod in, 18xxx? on my clone the extension tubes are 2 different lengths and I have to use the longer of the 2 in 18350, and 18500 mode or it auto fires.

 

[Cullin Kin]

You know, if you had a multimeter you could see of that magnet was coated or conductive in about a minute.

I read you the first time and thanked you for your input. I'm fully aware of how a multimeter would have been an asset in this situation but I didn't care enough to go buy a $40.00 multimeter for a $17.00 mod. Plus, if I couldn't figure it out I would have just taken it to the physics lab at my school on my way to work and had them take a look. lol

I just would have never guess that one of the magnets, a piece the designers of the clone had intended to be a primary (I just mean close to the battery) conductor, would have been the culprit. Why on earth would you coat something like that?!?!?!

 

[B1sh0p]

The problem is the 4NINE mod requires using button-top batteries.

Using magnets or other items to convert a flat top battery to a button-top battery is NOT ADVISEABLE and considered to be a bad practice.

Do the correct thing and buy button-top batteries. AW IMR batteries are my recommendation. Purchase from a trusted authorized vendor like RTD Vapor and not from Ebay/Amazon as there are a lot of counterfeit AW batteries being sold. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-sure-your-aw-batteries-genuine-how-tell.html

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The AW 18650 IMR 2000 mah battery has a 10 amp continuous rating.

The AW 18650 IMR 1600 mah battery has a 24 amp continuous rating.

Battery Basics for Mods

You need an adjustable positive post on your atty.

 

[B1sh0p]

The Infinite clone is 51 mm, not 49, which is the reason for the extra magnet in some. You don't need a button top battery, but you do need an adjustable positive post. You can adjust the throw with the positive post.

 

[superjoefly]

I know this thead is over a month old, but I'm just wondering if anyone knows how to remove the magnet from the copper within the black ring. I want to replace the magnets because they're damaged, if possible.

Thanks

 

[Cullin Kin]

I know this thead is over a month old, but I'm just wondering if anyone knows how to remove the magnet from the copper within the black ring. I want to replace the magnets because they're damaged, if possible.

Thanks

They are all just pressure fitted (maybe not the right term) together. It will take some doing but you can get it out.

If you cannot remove it, this place sells the whole unit: https://www.vapingwalrus.com/parts/mechanical-mods/magnet

You will be able to get it out though, the actual magnets themselves are sold everywhere meaning it's probably commonplace.

 

[PapaSloth]

They are all just pressure fitted (maybe not the right term) together. It will take some doing but you can get it out.

If you cannot remove it, this place sells the whole unit: https://www.vapingwalrus.com/parts/mechanical-mods/magnet

You will be able to get it out though, the actual magnets themselves are sold everywhere meaning it's probably commonplace.

Important note: that isn't the same magnet that comes with some of the 4nine clones. The originals have 8mm magnets, but some of the clones have 6mm magnets.

 

[Cullin Kin]

Important note: that isn't the same magnet that comes with some of the 4nine clones. The originals have 8mm magnets, but some of the clones have 6mm magnets.

Very true. That unit from vaping walrus just replaces the whole unit though, yeah? The delrin ring, brass ring, and magnet.

 

[superjoefly]

Thanks! I was looking everywhere for that part...unfortunately they're out :-/

I gave them my email and they're supposed to notify me when they get it in...

 

[PapaSloth]

Very true. That unit from vaping walrus just replaces the whole unit though, yeah? The delrin ring, brass ring, and magnet.

That's true, it replaces the whole part that attaches to the battery. But the switch button part is also different on some clones, and might not make contact the same way. In the clone, the 6mm magnet is set into a copper ring, which is set into the delrin and is raised somewhat. This makes contact with a ring in the button. So, the button might work fine with the new replacement part, or it might not. At a minimum, I would expect the throw to be different. Just something to be aware of.

 

[oDANo]

sorry for bumping an old thread, but, I just got my 4Nine by Infinite in the mail today, and I'm using an IGO-w with a AW IMR 18650 10A (Button top) since my eFest 2500 mah 35A haven't arrived yet, I assembled the mod, and got it working, I took a drag and I felt a pop from the RDA, is that from coil hotspots and not enough cotton? Also, is if I accidentally fire the mod without an atty, will it short the mod out? I would like to try my flat tops, but I'm afraid it might short the mod or RDA. Lastly, is there a list of compatible attys for the 4Nine?

 

[Cullin Kin]

sorry for bumping an old thread, but, I just got my 4Nine by Infinite in the mail today, and I'm using an IGO-w with a AW IMR 18650 10A (Button top) since my eFest 2500 mah 35A haven't arrived yet, I assembled the mod, and got it working, I took a drag and I felt a pop from the RDA, is that from coil hotspots and not enough cotton? Also, is if I accidentally fire the mod without an atty, will it short the mod out? I would like to try my flat tops, but I'm afraid it might short the mod or RDA. Lastly, is there a list of compatible attys for the 4Nine?

The pop was like just some juice that bubbled and popped. Nothing to be worried about unless it's shooting hot juice out the drip tip. With a button top, it is okay to accidentally fire the mod. Flat tops are risky in 4Nines and are not recommended. As for patty's, any that have adjustable connections to where the contact sits at least 1mm outside of the 510 threading are okay, and for fixed contacts, the same applies. It must extend past the 510 threading to make proper contact without shorting. A fe that I have tried: KFL+ V2, Plume Veil, Tobh, Orchid V2, and The Billow RTA.

 

[oDANo]

The pop was like just some juice that bubbled and popped. Nothing to be worried about unless it's shooting hot juice out the drip tip. With a button top, it is okay to accidentally fire the mod. Flat tops are risky in 4Nines and are not recommended. As for patty's, any that have adjustable connections to where the contact sits at least 1mm outside of the 510 threading are okay, and for fixed contacts, the same applies. It must extend past the 510 threading to make proper contact without shorting. A fe that I have tried: KFL+ V2, Plume Veil, Tobh, Orchid V2, and The Billow RTA.

Definitely what I was looking for ! Thanks for the response, the adjustable connections, is that determined if it has a screw? Some of my attys don't have a screw in the 510 connection. Also, thanks for the recommendations on attys, my IGO-W is working fine, also waiting on my Trident and Orchid to come in, I also have a Quasar I'm gonna see if it works with it, I believe it does have an adjustable 510 conn though. Thanks again!

 

[TheJakeBailey]

10 amps?? Yikes. What's the ohms of your build??

 

[oDANo]

10 amps?? Yikes. What's the ohms of your build??

Yeah, I have a eFest 35A and MNKE 1500mah 20A I believe, but they're both flat top, not sure if I should risk it. The build is 0.6

 

[Cullin Kin]

Yeah, I have a eFest 35A and MNKE 1500mah 20A I believe, but they're both flat top, not sure if I should risk it. The build is 0.6

At 0.6 youre only drawing 7A so you should be fine. Beware, those '35A' efests are actually 20A LG HE2's that have been rewrapped. Don't buy in to their false advertising.

As for the adjustable connections, yeah a screw is a good indicator. If it's not adjustable and doesn't extend at least 1mm past the 510, don't use it.

 

[oDANo]

At 0.6 youre only drawing 7A so you should be fine. Beware, those '35A' efests are actually 20A LG HE2's that have been rewrapped. Don't buy in to their false advertising.

As for the adjustable connections, yeah a screw is a good indicator. If it's not adjustable and doesn't extend at least 1mm past the 510, don't use it.

Yeah, I've read about that on the forums, some people are saying some of the efests are actually 35A, not sure.. If it helps, mine has a "Anti-Counterfeit" sticker or something.

 

[gph61]

sorry for bumping an old thread, but, I just got my 4Nine by Infinite in the mail today, and I'm using an IGO-w with a AW IMR 18650 10A (Button top) since my eFest 2500 mah 35A haven't arrived yet, I assembled the mod, and got it working, I took a drag and I felt a pop from the RDA, is that from coil hotspots and not enough cotton? Also, is if I accidentally fire the mod without an atty, will it short the mod out? I would like to try my flat tops, but I'm afraid it might short the mod or RDA. Lastly, is there a list of compatible attys for the 4Nine?

I haven't tried it but I understand these will work to stop shorting with no atty

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1138101