Can't believe what I've just seen.

[Matty316]

I have had a Vamo V7 40W for about 6 months now and since I got it constantly had a problem with a it getting hot where the top battery section joins with the section containing the chip.

Finally had enough so pulled the whole thing apart. The top battery section and the section holding the chip was held together with what I would call a collar each section hammerd on to the collar and held with pressure. I pulled them apart and pulled of the 510 head and removed the chip.

I was shocked at what I found. Who ever had put the thing together had used gule to secure the 510 head to the tube section that holds the chip and and had also used glue to secure the chip section to the collar that is used to connect it to the battery section.

No wonder the tube was getting hot. You need a solid metal to metal connection with the sections in order to get a good electrical connection and the glue was stopping that. so I removed all the glue and started putting it back together only to find now the glue was removed the collar was no longer a tight enough fit to hold the sections together. I thought to myself "I can see why you had the stupid idea of gluing it now".

As a tempory fix I wrapped some aluminium foil round the collar so it fit tight enough together and put the vamo back together. Guess what? The Problem of the tube getting hot had gone although I'm not happy about having to use the foil. My brother is a welder so I was thinking about asking him if he could weld the sections together although I'm not sure if stainless steel can be welded.

 

[englishmick]

Yuk. Maybe copper foil would be better. I just googled conductive glue. There are lots of varieties of it. There's even glue that contains silver. That would probably be a better solution than welding. Maybe they just had a bad batch of glue.

 

[GinnyTx]

not shocking..my son in law had a vamo for his first one..he's since confiscated one of the isticks I've given my daughter. js.

 

[Thrasher]

Ss is very weldable. It needs just a couple of spot welds and it will be fine.

Theres so many companies making vamos now who knows what your going to get if you don't specifically hunt down the authentic

 

[skoony]

the glue is there for a reason.
probably to keep things from popping out
of place. i suspect that to much glue was
applied. a few small drops at strategic locations
will help prevent things from getting loose after
being dropped or banged to hard.
your mod appears to have some heft to it.
any shock from dropping it could knock things
loose.
the bright side is if you ever drop it and it
stops working,you will know where to look first.
regards
mike

 

[roxynoodle]

Hey, the Pyra costs almost $500 and has huge globs of hot glue holding all the electronics together

 

[Hans Wermhat]

SS can be welded, but iy takes a different welding material than mild steel. Your buddy might have all the stuff. If not, he may want a lil cash from you. It's not super cheap.

 

[Matty316]

the glue is there for a reason.
probably to keep things from popping out
of place. i suspect that to much glue was
applied. a few small drops at strategic locations
will help prevent things from getting loose after
being dropped or banged to hard.
your mod appears to have some heft to it.
any shock from dropping it could knock things
loose.
the bright side is if you ever drop it and it
stops working,you will know where to look first.
regards
mike

With the vamo the tube itself completes the negitive connection from the 510 to the battery so any glue round the joints of the tube would interrupt the connection.

 

[skoony]

With the vamo the tube itself completes the negitive connection from the 510 to the battery so any glue round the joints of the tube would interrupt the connection.

if it covers the whole joint yes.
but as i said the glue is there for a reason.
a few judiciously placed drops of glue
in very small amounts should not be
a problem.
regards
mike

 

[SleeZy]

About a year ago i saw someone posted a hana/cana mod (can't remember exactly which model) And the entire inside was just glued together in a huge mess.
And it was quite dangerous built.
This is one of the reason i mostly prefer mechs, they seem more reliable to me than regulated mods.
Both got their pros and cons ofc...

 

[tj99959]

There is nothing wrong with using glue, even Provari uses glue. It just has to be used properly.

 

[Matty316]

if it covers the whole joint yes.
but as i said the glue is there for a reason.
a few judiciously placed drops of glue
in very small amounts should not be
a problem.
regards
mike

In this case the whole joint was covered on the 510 head and the collar so the connection was very poor hence the tube getting hot so I had little choice but to remove it.

 

[SleeZy]

In this case the whole joint was covered on the 510 head and the collar so the connection was very poor hence the tube getting hot so I had little choice but to remove it.

What if you get some conductive glue and try remake it yourself?

 

[Matty316]

What if you get some conductive glue and try remake it yourself?

Yeah I was thinking about that. May just see if my brother can spot weld it then I'll not have to worry about it coming loose in the future. If not I'll probably just get some of that glue and have a go with that.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I'd have to see pictures of what you want to weld but I would be concerned that the heat from welding it may cause more issues than it would fix.

 

[SleeZy]

Yeah I was thinking about that. May just see if my brother can spot weld it then I'll not have to worry about it coming loose in the future. If not I'll probably just get some of that glue and have a go with that.

I'm abit concerned about the welding though, and if it gets welded wrong it'll be hard to fix it. Compared to glue.
Also i agree with the comment below:

I'd have to see pictures of what you want to weld but I would be concerned that the heat from welding it may cause more issues than it would fix.

 

[Matty316]

I'm abit concerned about the welding though, and if it gets welded wrong it'll be hard to fix it. Compared to glue.
Also i agree with the comment below:

I suppose the glue would be the less risky option. guess I'll try that first then.

 

[Thrasher]

For the uninformed- The vamo is press fit top to bottom. Always has been. I suspect tolerances were off that day and instead of scrapping them they said glue will do it.

Maybe try something called copper tape, a couple small pieces in the seams, whack it with a piece of wood and a hammer ( its how we even repair the provari topcap) and trim off the excess.

 

[crxess]

The problem was not the Glue - It was the poor machining.

Many Mods use Hot Glue to Anchor, as shock protection, added strength. Done properlt, it both does the job and makes building cost effective. Most of your home electronics will have spots if glue inside doing various securing jobs.

If the Ops brother is a real Welder(Trained/skilled) he may be able to Shrink the metal for a tighter fit.

*Note: Vamo has become a Generic Name, like Ego. For a Real Vamo, always look for - Rainbow Heaven. They created the Original Vamo.

 

[SleeZy]

For a Real Vamo, always look for - Rainbow Heaven. They created the Original Vamo.

And in sweden they say it's KSD... Confusing.