Can't kick the analogs

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MissAmerican

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I too am wondering what type of device the OP is using, if its something like a small 650mah device then you might not be getting enough throat hit and vapor. If that's the case I would suggest something bigger with at least 1100mah. When I first started not only was throat hit important to me but it gave me more satisfaction to also see big clouds of vapor. I smoked a pack a day for almost 15 years so I started out using 18mg of nicotine too so if you are using something below that then you might want to try upping the nic. Even though you have not been able to fully stop smoking its great that you have cut back on them. Don't put too much pressure on yourself to fully quit as extra stress as you know doesn't help us (ex)smokers. Take your time finding a set up that works best for you. Good luck and take care!
 
I have vaped on and off for about a year but just got serious in the last month and a half. The first 2 weeks I only smoked 4 packs then I got stressed out with family problems and started smoking more analogs. I would love to vape only but I feel more secure if I have my analogs. I have thought about not buying analogs but I have not reached that point yet. I can't even go out of the house without them. Will I ever be secure enough to leave analogs alone? How do I ever get to the point of just wanting to vape? I have smoked for 34 years and I vape 24 mg. Would someone please help me!

I got lucky and hit the right device for me and the right juice my first try. People will laugh and groan, but I talked to the guy at my smoke shop, who turned out to be a vaper. I went with the Blu. I'm branching out now, but for me, these devices look right, feel right, give me the big cloud without the hacking cough. They're simple, hassle-free, and easy to refill. I also go with non-tobacco flavors. I choose flavors that I know I love. Chai. Lemon desserts. Fruits. I can't have PG, and there's no VG only in the stores here. All my juices have to come from the net. I found a maker, Highbrow Vapor, I trust that uses ingredients I trust.

I tried everything to quit, and everyone knew it. Smoking gave me emphysema at 38 and jacked-up heart valves at 42. I couldn't even quit after my dad's smoking-specific lung cancer. For the last 15 years, I'd been through two rounds of six-week classes put on by a local hospital. Hypnosis. Patches I ended up being allergic to. Nicotine replacement lozenges and gums. Nicotrol inhalers. Doctors telling me while under the knife during several surgeries that when I woke up I would no longer be a smoker. Chantix, which I toughed out for five weeks of crazy dreams and bizarre thoughts, until I "woke up" one night to my dog barking at me while I was getting into the car to go run myself off the bridge and into the river. (There was no plan. I didn't remember dressing, getting keys, thought process, plan, anything. Was total autopilot.) Candy. Lots of water. Food.

As for stress, that's what caused me to almost go back to analogs. The same weekend I started vaping, my family situation simultaneously imploded and exploded. I won't go into all the details, but for about three weeks I was under constant attack by a few members. I had to really crawl into my brain and heart to figure out what they were triggering and why I was reacting with wanting to smoke. Turned out they were triggering the "you don't deserve to exist" tape and I was reacting to that message with the one thing that would kill me. I removed them, and haven't looked back. Haven't thought about a smoke, either.

Support is key, Gena. If no one you know is vaping, then look on the web or facebook, or here, for vaping groups in your area. There are a couple where I live and they have monthly meet-ups. Like I said before, everyone knew the fight I'd had with smoking. Social media proved invaluable. I used the data from sincemylastcigarette.com to post updates to friends and family. I overkilled it at first, but now just post it for milestones. It was wild to watch the number of cigarettes avoided rise. Had no idea how many I smoked in a month or week. The response was overwhelming, and gave me good messages to go back and look at if I needed a boost. In fact, it's even inspired a couple of my friends to step into this world.

Don't forget self-support. You have to support yourself, too. For me, that comes in the form of noticing and enjoying the little things. For example, I'm only able to wash my hair every three days, so it happened that my first wash was two days after vaping. I woke up the next morning to the smell of conditioner and couldn't figure out where it came from. It was my own hair on the pillow. I noticed that my dog stopped smelling weird. I go through fewer furnace filters. I open the drawers and am hit with fabric softener still working after a month. I wash my hands and notice that hours later they still smell like soap. Even my sweat smells better. I sleep so well now. I'm never out of breath. My doctor is amazed. Every tiny thing is a massive victory.

You can do it, Gena. It's cliché, but my case true: If I can do it, then anyone can. Find a device you like. Find a juice you like. Find flavors you like. Support yourself and seek out the support of others. Find your triggers and remove them, even if they're people. You're trying to rid your body of poison, and you won't if you don't rid your life of poison, too.
 
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I too am wondering what type of device the OP is using, if its something like a small 650mah device then you might not be getting enough throat hit and vapor. If that's the case I would suggest something bigger with at least 1100mah.
A 1100mah will last longer but won't produce more vapor or throat hit. More volts will produce more vapor so will a lower ohm coil. Either way you are sending more watts and power to the coil.
 

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After almost three years of vaping things have turned around for me. Cigarettes just don't taste like the real thing anymore.

There was one night when I found my atty's insulator melted and I couldn't vape anything just for that night (I was about to replenish supplies the following day). I was so desperate so I bought a few sticks of cigarettes (that's the way it is in the Third World, so the poor can afford them stinkies) and dang, I had the worst time. I was like substituting analogs for my vaping craving--I knew things had turned around. I was like, "instead of my sweet tobacco and blueberry vapor, I'll have to make do with bad-tasting burned stuff and reeking ash."

For OP, there might come a time that when you do smoke, you crave to vape. That would be a good sign.
 

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I smoked for 35 years. Recently 70 regular cigarettes or 35 roll-your-own a day. I managed to quit smoking using the mechanical MOD with 3 ml tank and capacious 18650 3400 mAh batteries (I own three). I vape now 6 ml of 24 mg/ml liquids – all of them different tobacco tastes (Cuban, Jamaica, Texas, Natural, Pure, etc.). I don’t try to find the taste of my cigarettes in the liquids because it isn’t possible. A 6 ml of 24 mg/ml per day is a lot of nicotine but I suppose sooner or later I’ll be capable to trim that down to 3 ml per day.
 

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I have vaped on and off for about a year but just got serious in the last month and a half. The first 2 weeks I only smoked 4 packs then I got stressed out with family problems and started smoking more analogs. I would love to vape only but I feel more secure if I have my analogs. I have thought about not buying analogs but I have not reached that point yet. I can't even go out of the house without them. Will I ever be secure enough to leave analogs alone? How do I ever get to the point of just wanting to vape? I have smoked for 34 years and I vape 24 mg. Would someone please help me!

What I did to ween myself off of cigs was, rather than carry a pack of cigs and my vape stuff, I used a njoy ecig case and put 3 analogs in there. So I carried that and my eGo/clearo/2 botts of juice around. If the juice wasn't working, I'd have a cig - but - once all 3 cigs were gone, that was it. I had to vape.

You could try something similar. Maybe use a altoid case and carry 3 or 4 cigs in there. Take that and the vape gear out with you. If you really need a cig - have one. But once they're all gone, accept that you have to vape. In time, reduce the number of cigs you take with you and make an effort to only vape.

All of the other suggestions about finding a flavor you like and/or upping the nicotine is helpful too. What worked for me was using WTA infused ejuice. Flowerpots provided some good reading about it so YOU can make an informed decision about whether or not WTA may be right for you.
 

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im like you sort of, ive only smoked 14 years and finding it hard to just vape and not give in and light up. im at the point now were ive cut down Analogs to just a couple and going to up my nic to 24mg or even 36mg just to see if I can go with just vapeing. I can stop analogs for one full day but I end up giving in after that but look at it like this, a couple is a hell of a lot better then a full pack or even more.

just focus on the much youve cut down and one day will come the point were the need for analogs wont be so bad and a nice long vape takes the feelings away. you might still have set backs but its a hell of lot better then smokeing full packs at the end of the day.
 
I'm kind of new to vaping also.
I bought my first ecig over a year ago. tried it a few times, put it away, tried it again, put it away,
Got serious and started carrying it my purse, A big turning point was actually carrying it around with me.
At this time I also switched from cigarette flavors to Bakery flavors. But I still smoked in the morning and at the Bar.
Then went to only smoking 1 in the morning. Finally had to leave my ecig next to the Kurig and put the regular cigs out of site.
I really don't even remember my "last" cigarette, I just kind of forgot about them.
So what worked for me was to carry my Ecig with me at all times. You can't vape if you leave it at home! Throw the regular cigs in the back seat so you can't get to them as easily as the ecig and Keep Trying!
 

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What type of flavor are you vaping? What type of device are you using? I would suggest vaping tobacco flavors until you quit analogs. I can suggest some good tobacco flavors I've tried a lot of them.

I fully agree with this. Stick with tobacco flavors at first. I still vape mostly tobacco flavors. I too can recommend some good ones. I have not read this whole thread to see what equipment you have, but that will make all the difference. I smoked 2 packs a day and havent smoked since the day I bought my first decent e-cig. I started with a Joyetech eGo-c. Quickly upgraded to better tanks and lower resistance attomizers to get much better vapor and throat hit. The key is to just use your e cig when you want a cigarette. I still to this day crave a cigarette when its actually the nicotine we crave. It is just set in our minds that it is a cigarette that we need. Let me know what your equipment you have. I have tons of extra stuff I will gladly send you if what you have is not a descent set up. Feel free to message me direct if you like. We all know where you arer coming from and I bet anyone here would do the same.
 

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Chiming in to say what others have no doubt already said.

Someone bought me a disposable and I saw it as sort of a novelty that would let me get nicotine without getting out of bed. After reading a few days on /r/ecr I bought an ego ce4 clone to sort of acclimate myself with non-disposables and juice. Spent a few months playing with it and decided I liked it enough to switch entirely. I ordered a mech mod and a vamo v3, along with some tanks, a couple rbas and a bucket of juices. I decided when it arrived I'd convert completely. That was around a week and a half ago, and while the first 5-6 days were pretty trying, it's become much easier, and is beginning to feel pretty natural. For me the biggest trick was to decide when to stop entirely, not just cut back on analogs. As I write this I can see it seems just like all the other daunting and asinine advice that I didn't believe when I was contemplating the switch, but in retrospect it all seems pretty legit. Good luck whatever you decide.
 

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i've found that keeping it on me at all times helps too.... in my jeans pocket, not packed in its carry case in a bag, but rather right there, as accessible as a pack in your pocket would be.

so far, given the choice between going outside to smoke or heading to the toilet/corridor/stairwell for a vape,... so far, the latter always wins,.. cos i'm a lazy ....... at heart :D

i keep a pack on me as well, and if i feel like having an analog i have one,... the gaps between are getting longer and longer.
 

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A few things I've found helpful through the last couple months:

1) Progress, not perfection. Keeps me from beating myself up. Getting better about not forgetting it, but still have to remind myself often.

2) Having a plan. For example, "this week, only 5 cigarettes a day." Vape in between. Helps to know I can have a guilt free cig. Also helps determine which events really have to be dealt with by smoking, and which I can vape through so I can save that smoke for later.

3) Making a new plan. Ok, woops, that didn't work. 8 cigarettes a day better for now? Different plan entirely? Hey, least I'm working on it. Progress.

4) VG vs. PG I know, more acronyms, yippie! Sorry if you already know this, which you probably do, but just in case. VG will create lots of smoke, but it is very smooth. PG will create less smoke, but it is harsher (in a satisfying way for someone who smoked very strong cigs). I started with a Blu disposable. Tobacco taste was actually good, smoke production was good, but still wasn't satisfying when I really needed it to be. PG gave more "throat-hit." Took me a while to understand what the heck people were talking about with that.
One way I might explain it: VG = a glass of water. PG = a glass of carbonated water. You can feel the carbonated water more at the back of your throat. I was missing that with the Blu disposable e-cig which uses a 100% VG juice from Johnson Creek.

Hang in there! Keep posting! Posting counts as progress in my book :)
 

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When I first started vaping, I was doing great. I also started vaping at the beginning of a divorce I'm going through. Yeah, I started smoking a few analogs. To make matters wors I developed a nasty case of Bronchitis that made it literally impossible to vape.

You are not the only one that is struggling with analogs. it's okay. Keep at it.
 
100_2733.jpghaving it around my neck at all times has really helplped me I made this for myself out of parachute cord
also the advice given by members of a vaping facebook group: don't beat yourself up over every cig you smoke celebrate every one you don't
started vaping 2 and a half weeks ago and I have had the same half pack of analogs since then, still 2 left in it
 

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I'll toss in for making sure your nicotine level is high enough. My wife and I started at 24mg, but if you were a heavy smoker, you may want to have some 36mg around to get through the bad humps. We are currently at 18mg and trying to move to 12mg - I've really "felt" this move and we are keeping a good amount of 18mg around.

Also, you *really* need to want to quit. My wife and I had been trying for over a year, with little success until we found vaping. So despite the repeated failures, there was a real desire to quit and to quit killing ourselves.

Good luck and keep on trying!
 
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