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Most flavorings we commonly use are weak meaning they need above ten percent sometimes to twenty if its a single flavor mix or a combo of only two. The only company you can get away with generally low flavoring because its HIGHLY concentrated is Flavour Art.

Capella's is good, the most true smell, no perfume smells, but so far I find 80 percent of what I bought is on the weak side or right in the middle. I need 8 percent or above to even get the flavoring very mildly and that's after sitting for 3 days.
Ten percent works on some with EM. Vanilla Custard needed more than that to really taste it. This is not an insult its just something to bear in mind as we all have different buds. I will take a little weaker any day over a perfumey or not true to its name expected flavor.
Very true points! FA is very potent! Out of all my Capella flavors, Chocolate Fudge Brownie is about the only one that needs less than 10%. Vanilla Custard was up to about 20% I believe. That stuff is very weak, but tasty!
 

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I will take a little weaker any day over a perfumey or not true to its name expected flavor.

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Are you using these flavors as standalones ? I Never really use flavors as standalones unless its like red hots . When flavors are mixed it makes them stronger . In my recipes i never go over 8% on a capella flavor . Usually 3-5% and my juices are always rich and tasty .

What is you total percentage of flavoring averaging out to? You aren't aiming for stand alones or two ingredient mixes, thats fine, but if your total percentage for 4 or 5 flavorings plus sweetener is equal to what we are trying to do as a stand alone or a two ingredient mix then you are not representing the strength of Capella's properly. One flavor at 15-20 % is no different than using 3 flavors at 5 or 8% each.

I also of course disagree about mixing multiple flavors makes flavors stronger- some flavors cancel out other flavors or overtake the mix.
 

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Ok, I have to step in, like Gooddog said you will find capellas fan here cause it is a CAPELLAS THREAD. The intend of this thread was to share experience with CAPELLAS flavor. I never intend to say that CAPELLAS was the only flavor worth mixing, shoot I have as many other vendor as I have CAPELLAS. For me, CAPELLAS, are the most forgiving flavors for a diy beginner(which I'm still one!) So you 2 stop on arguing about which one offer the better money/use. That was not the intend of the thread. If you want to argue that TPA is the best after slice bread, just open a thread, and let just focus on the original intend of this thread, now I feel alot better now that I've talked about it!!!!
 

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nobody is agruing over vendors.... look at the conversation again...Capellas %'s are whats being discussed right now.... we know this is a Capellas lovers thread but there is also room for disagreeemnts about CAPELLA'S...you have to allow the bad with the good as well...

so your saying if we dont love Capella's flavors and be a follower then you cant post here? come on now... i have limited experience with Capella's..one was an older flavor so that may have played a part in it...but seriously i wasnt impressed with the peanut butter without fixing it up to MY TASTES but that is MY PERSONAL taste...not all tastes are the same...the vanilla custard is a good taste would i buy it, yes because it mixes well with other flavors...

Ok, I have to step in, like Gooddog said you will find capellas fan here cause it is a CAPELLAS THREAD. The intend of this thread was to share experience with CAPELLAS flavor. I never intend to say that CAPELLAS was the only flavor worth mixing, shoot I have as many other vendor as I have CAPELLAS. For me, CAPELLAS, are the most forgiving flavors for a diy beginner(which I'm still one!) So you 2 stop on arguing about which one offer the better money/use. That was not the intend of the thread. If you want to argue that TPA is the best after slice bread, just open a thread, and let just focus on the original intend of this thread, now I feel alot better now that I've talked about it!!!!
 

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Ok, I have to step in, like Gooddog said you will find capellas fan here cause it is a CAPELLAS THREAD. The intend of this thread was to share experience with CAPELLAS flavor. I never intend to say that CAPELLAS was the only flavor worth mixing, shoot I have as many other vendor as I have CAPELLAS. For me, CAPELLAS, are the most forgiving flavors for a diy beginner(which I'm still one!) So you 2 stop on arguing about which one offer the better money/use. That was not the intend of the thread. If you want to argue that TPA is the best after slice bread, just open a thread, and let just focus on the original intend of this thread, now I feel alot better now that I've talked about it!!!!

Sorry you are offended icebob. I thought the original intent of the thread was to share opinions/experiences on Capella's. Yes some of the posts have compared a Capella's flavoring against another company's flavoring and we can all just agree to disagree.

Its natural to compare one peanut butter against another, one price against another, etc.

If the point of this thread is to only say Capella's is superior to all other flavorings in every flavor and every aspect then I guess that was said on the first page of this thread and it should have ended there. Too many opinionated people in here imagine that :facepalm:
 

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Now now kiddies if you can't play nicely together then you will have to put away your toys and sit in the corner.LOL just kidding,but seriously will someone please tell me if Capella's Cola is any good?

I haven't tried it yet, but the Cherry Cola was pretty darn tasty...so I'd take a wild guess and say that the Cola is great stuff too.
 

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Now now kiddies if you can't play nicely together then you will have to put away your toys and sit in the corner.LOL just kidding,but seriously will someone please tell me if Capella's Cola is any good?

It's awesome :)
I swear there's a perception of 'fizz'.

I was having trouble with the rootbeer float..added a bit of cola and now have an awesome rootbeer as well :2c:
 

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What is you total percentage of flavoring averaging out to? You aren't aiming for stand alones or two ingredient mixes, thats fine, but if your total percentage for 4 or 5 flavorings plus sweetener is equal to what we are trying to do as a stand alone or a two ingredient mix then you are not representing the strength of Capella's properly. One flavor at 15-20 % is no different than using 3 flavors at 5 or 8% each.

I also of course disagree about mixing multiple flavors makes flavors stronger- some flavors cancel out other flavors or overtake the mix.

There is a difference since i can get a stronger richer vanilla custard taste by only using 5% in a mix while 20% of Vanilla custard by itself is not very rich . Making a great recipe is finding flavors that enhance eachother . Using flavors that cancel out eachother doesnt make for a good recipe . My Vanilla custard juice doesnt just use vanilla custard flavor but it still tastes like a rich vanilla custard juice . If using the right flavors a lot of the time you dont need to go to 20% total to get a rich flavorfull juice . IMO and experiences its almost impossible to get richness using a standalone flavor that wasnt intended to be a standalone. Thats my OPINION before shilo tries to crucify me again for leaving out IMO . You can use whatever you would like im just trying to help . I dont need to share my opinions expecially if im gonna be yelled at for them . Im just trying to help people and if you cant see that i dont really need to waste my time posting anymore . You say that its not strong enough for you a single flavor at 20% so im just giving my opinion on how to get it to work better for you since i dont have this issue .
 

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It's awesome :)
I swear there's a perception of 'fizz'.

I was having trouble with the rootbeer float..added a bit of cola and now have an awesome rootbeer as well :2c:

Oooh, didn't think of that. I'll have to try it out.

Also, ordered 5 more flavors today. Maple, French Toast, Harvest Berry, Sweet Tangerine and NY Cheesecake.

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What is you total percentage of flavoring averaging out to? You aren't aiming for stand alones or two ingredient mixes, thats fine, but if your total percentage for 4 or 5 flavorings plus sweetener is equal to what we are trying to do as a stand alone or a two ingredient mix then you are not representing the strength of Capella's properly. One flavor at 15-20 % is no different than using 3 flavors at 5 or 8% each.

I also of course disagree about mixing multiple flavors makes flavors stronger- some flavors cancel out other flavors or overtake the mix.

I agree, however......;)
I personally find most of Capella's flavors excellent standalones at 10%. Rarely do I bump it up to 15, and more often than not, 5% is just fine (I do add lemon juice or vinegar). I rarely find the need to sweeten cap flavors, but sometimes add a bit of em just to bump up the body. So far in my experience the Capella brand has the highest degree of standalone flavors, whereas most need something more....therefore the percentage of other flavors overall would be higher simply because of the need to mix.

My all day vape for awhile has been Cap vanilla custard at 10%...it does get more body and flavor with age. :)

FA by comparison takes MUCH less flavoring, even with the need to mix. I'm a FA 'fan' as well, but when I want something tasty and simple more often than not I'm going to reach for my Capella flavors.
 

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I agree, however......;)
I personally find most of Capella's flavors excellent standalones at 10%. Rarely do I bump it up to 15, and more often than not, 5% is just fine (I do add lemon juice or vinegar). I rarely find the need to sweeten cap flavors, but sometimes add a bit of em just to bump up the body. So far in my experience the Capella brand has the highest degree of standalone flavors, whereas most need something more....therefore the percentage of other flavors overall would be higher simply because of the need to mix.

My all day vape for awhile has been Cap vanilla custard at 10%...it does get more body and flavor with age. :)

FA by comparison takes MUCH less flavoring, even with the need to mix. I'm a FA 'fan' as well, but when I want something tasty and simple more often than not I'm going to reach for my Capella flavors.

Bostonboxers can I ask what percentage of PG/VG do you use normally? You said you add the lemon juice to the custard mix too? By how much? Do you use a sweetener with it or just the 10% custard? How many drops of lemon juice would you put into the juice?

I should explain myself better for clarity sake. The very first flavors I tried was like 12 FA ones. For two or three weeks straight FA ones only. I then moved on to trying some of the others and now Capella's so just that part would help you understand perhaps why I still haven't tweaked this to 100 percent perfection. I really like the custard but I want to use less of it (hopefully the ten percent as a standalone) so please give me exactly what you do- thank you.

PS: OK sorry I see you said you rarely use sweetener sometimes a little EM. OK How long does it have to steep then for you a little or days?
 

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There is a difference since i can get a stronger richer vanilla custard taste by only using 5% in a mix while 20% of Vanilla custard by itself is not very rich . Making a great recipe is finding flavors that enhance eachother . Using flavors that cancel out eachother doesnt make for a good recipe . My Vanilla custard juice doesnt just use vanilla custard flavor but it still tastes like a rich vanilla custard juice . If using the right flavors a lot of the time you dont need to go to 20% total to get a rich flavorfull juice . IMO and experiences its almost impossible to get richness using a standalone flavor that wasnt intended to be a standalone. Thats my OPINION before shilo tries to crucify me again for leaving out IMO . You can use whatever you would like im just trying to help . I dont need to share my opinions expecially if im gonna be yelled at for them . Im just trying to help people and if you cant see that i dont really need to waste my time posting anymore . You say that its not strong enough for you a single flavor at 20% so im just giving my opinion on how to get it to work better for you since i dont have this issue .

I didn't say it wasn't strong enough at 20 percent. Simplyme82 and myself were earlier in the thread agreeing that to really taste the custard as a standalone we had to use 15 to 20 percent and we were looking for help not ridicule about why don't we use multiple flavors for a straight vanilla. My goal is to get a good simple vanilla so I asked Boston for her recipe.

Nobody was crucifiying you but apparently you didn't get my point this time or any other time I've spoken to you about your tone. I won't reply to anything you say from now on and we'll both be happy.

When GoodDog or Boston say something they don't say it like they are the grand know it all's or talking down to someone. They say it humbley as though the person they are talking to is an equal or will be in no time.

I don't know you and I am only reading what you write. You write in a way that sounds like you think you are right all the time- PERIOD. For example, how you crucified Bams over the peanut butter. If someone writes something you don't agree with its called their opinion and we ALL have them so the appropriate civil reply would have been glad you got it to work for you Bams.
 

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Now this is scary! Anyone know anything about this? Have they stopped using diacetyl in vanilla custard in the past year?
I like many of Capellas flavors too but I think that everyone should know that some of their flavors do contain diacetyl. They were tested by Kimerpuff at OSDIY last year and found to be in their flavorings. Some folks don't mind diacetyl but everyone should know what they are vaping. See post # 14 here
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/one-stop-diy-shop/240607-cant-say-enough-good-things-2.html
 

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Whats does the vinegar or lemon juice do? You talking like the lemon juice from grocery stores that come in a plastic lemon?

YOU need to read the vinegar thread :)
Really..anyone interested in diy should be reading this one....:2c:
I like many of Capellas flavors too but I think that everyone should know that some of their flavors do contain diacetyl. They were tested by Kimerpuff at OSDIY last year and found to be in their flavorings. Some folks don't mind diacetyl but everyone should know what they are vaping. See post # 14 here
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/one-stop-diy-shop/240607-cant-say-enough-good-things-2.html

Well, this could be sour grapes (not saying it IS, but I've seen no documentation), or it could be that one of the chemicals used in ALL custard flavors that replaced diacetyl (sorry, can't remember the name offhand, but I'll try and find it) I read somewhere can, after a long period of time somehow develop trace amounts when tested. Again...I read it, remember it, but can't remember where. In that case, your only choice would be to not vape ANY custard flavors...which of course is your right :)

Bostonboxers can I ask what percentage of PG/VG do you use normally? You said you add the lemon juice to the custard mix too? By how much? Do you use a sweetener with it or just the 10% custard? How many drops of lemon juice would you put into the juice?

I should explain myself better for clarity sake. The very first flavors I tried was like 12 FA ones. For two or three weeks straight FA ones only. I then moved on to trying some of the others and now Capella's so just that part would help you understand perhaps why I still haven't tweaked this to 100 percent perfection. I really like the custard but I want to use less of it (hopefully the ten percent as a standalone) so please give me exactly what you do- thank you.

PS: OK sorry I see you said you rarely use sweetener sometimes a little EM. OK How long does it have to steep then for you a little or days?

Sooooo many questions?! lol! Sorry...I'll try to answer, but if I miss any, let me know or pm me.

For custard type flavors I use apple cider vinegar, not lemon juice. I also use a natural acv, but I don't think it matters. Usually 2 drops (large pipette dedicated to vinegar) per ml. If I'm happy with the flav right off the bat, I use ONE drop per ml only. If after using 2 drops/ml I'm still not happy with it after a week or so I'll go one more drop per ml for a total of 3.
For fruit flavors (and anything with a 'sharp' rather than 'smooth' ie, cola...) I use the same formula, but I use lemon juice instead. As for brand, I've used the frozen minute maid, and the stuff in the lemon shaped bottle. Doesn't matter to me as long as it's 100% lemon juice.
Cap Van Custard is soooo tasty, but weak when mixed. I wait at LEAST 3 days before vaping. I'll taste after an overnight steep but not vape. You'll be amazed at the difference from when you first mixed it :) Same with the cheesecake. I don't do baths, cap off, or anything special...just wait a few days. I mixed a 50 ml bottle when I first bought the flavor (back when this thread started) and I'm still vaping out of it. I vape lots of flavs throughout the day and switch around a lot, but the cvc is my goto...can't stop vaping it, aaaand, to me it gets better every time I dip into that bottle (amber glass if it matters to ya).

Did I get em all? lol!

added: oh ya...pg/vg...not sure! I mean, I don't know how to figure it. I get 100ml nic in pg, mix with pg to 36 for storage. When I mix down to 24ml (I add flav to this too, so that takes it down a bit) I use straight vg so ???

Added:Here's the info on diacetyl I refered to but couldn't remember for those that care to read it
 
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Now this is scary! Anyone know anything about this? Have they stopped using diacetyl in vanilla custard in the past year?

Well, I don't believe it. I was around then and talked at great length with Tom at Capella. He said they DO NOT use diacetyl in ANY of their flavorings. If it were true there would have been a lot more uproar than one post and surely she would have backed it up with the proper paperwork to prove it. It was a trying time because FA was found to have a lot of diacetyl in their flavorings which they have since removed from most of them. It wouldn't make sense for Capella to use it in their Vanilla Custard when there are alternatives. Tom told me that none of the American flavoring vendors use diacetyl and haven't for many years.
 
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