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Okay, loving what I've done with the French Toast, but the Apple Pie tastes like Celestial Seasonings Tea. Help? Not pie. Added some Vanilla Custard and that did help, but just as far as the Apple Pie filling taste goes. No crust taste. Anyone having any suggestions? Would LOVE for this to be a PIE!
I am sure Good Dog or Boston will give you their impressions. I got apples and cinnamon out of this flavor.
What percentage of did you mix it at? I always add a little Graham Cracker to mine.
I did 10 percent. Graham cracker, I have- what percentage? And thanks for your quick response!
That's one of the very few I went 15% on....and it gets better with age, literally. Every day I swear it gets better than the day before...mmmmmm.....
Also, imo this is a great standalone. At 15% and an overnight steep it doesn't need a thing added.
Using Breaktru's calculator, I use 10% Apple Pie and 5% Graham Cracker. But as Boston advises, try letting it steep a day. Capella's flavorings don't usually take days of steeping. I make them and vape them the next day. YMMV.
So Boston, you go a TOTAL of ~15% on Cap flav? Hmmm...that doesn't sound right. OK, if you mix 2 or more Cap flavs do you total about 15%?That's one of the very few I went 15% on....and it gets better with age, literally. Every day I swear it gets better than the day before...mmmmmm.....
Also, imo this is a great standalone. At 15% and an overnight steep it doesn't need a thing added.
I like my flavors strong though.
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Newell if you don't mind me asking what ratio PG/VG are you creating your mixes in? Thats the thing, everyone here is probably doing varying ratios of the PG/VG which will make a difference with the taste factor or how much flavoring needed or perceived to be needed. I think you told me once but I forgot.
I mix at 80/20 PG/VG. We use cartos, so it needs to be thinner. Although I am starting to really enjoy using a 510 atty. The taste seems clearer.
I must admit I'm a little puzzled by steeping:
1) I get that the ingredients need to be well blended, but does steeping do anything that a good mixing wouldn't do? I.e. Are there chemical reactions involved?
2) Is there a point at which steeping makes the juice worse? I mean, is my wonderful strawberry juice, when I actually get my hands on it, gonna get better and better for 2 weeks, and be unvapeable after a month?
1) I get that the ingredients need to be well blended, but does steeping do anything that a good mixing wouldn't do? I.e. Are there chemical reactions involved?
2) Is there a point at which steeping makes the juice worse? I mean, is my wonderful strawberry juice, when I actually get my hands on it, gonna get better and better for 2 weeks, and be unvapeable after a month?
My pg/vg ratio is about the same...and yes, there are only a very few Capella flavors that I go that high on.
MOST of them 10% is perfect. Some of them 5% is good, and I think maybe 3 I've gone to 15% on (apple pie is one). I personally don't feel much of a need to mix Capella flavors, but the few that I have run a total of 10-15% flavor.
I should also add though that one of the main reasons I started DIY to begin with is I found vendor's juices intolerably sweet and strong flavored, so there's that
I'm sure that as I start adding more vg to my juices I'll maybe have to up the flavor %'s a bit but I doubt I'll ever hit the 'norm' for most people.
I'd bump that apple pie up to 15%...seriously. If I have to go that high, I would suggest to the average joe (not saying you are!) to do the same...maybe even 20%. The exception would be the super sensitive tasters...5-10% might do well for them.
If it's still at 10% take about a ml of it and add a drop of flavor out of the bottle and let it sit overnight before trying it. If that doesn't work for you you can always add the gc to the larger amount. I don't see this flavor mixed properly as needing anything else though...though a bit of FA Black Fire gives it a really nice nuance
I use the same mix 80/20 most of the time--sometimes 75/25 or 70/30. Never higher VG than that. Right after mixing, I have been giving my bottles a bath in a glass of warm water for a couple cycles and letting it stay in there till the water cools before adding the nic juice and thats been helping alot. (Thanks to a certain friend of mine's advice for faster steep.) I don't make a total decision for two days to see if anything changes and I write it all down in my notebook. I probably don't need to do the bath thing as my VG is low but I'm impatient and want to taste it as soon as I can.
I tried this warm/hot water bath several times now and I have tasted no difference. Only difference I see is letting it sit a day to a week. I did 2 mixes of Chocolate Fudge Brownie and put one in a hot water bath and nothing to the other. After awhile I took the one batch out of the water and vaped both. No difference in taste to me at all. Now letting it sit for a day to up to a week theres a huge difference. I still got some CFB from last month and it evens tastes more chocolatey now.
I've gotten the same results. The only difference I've noticed with adding heat is with extracts...it helps get the 'dried' materials nice and wet and releasing their flavor goodies like they're s'posed to
Two days works for me with the bath-- sometimes one day- I don't notice anything dramatically different or more taste after a week either way and and if I had to wait a week for these kind of flavors I'd go nuts because my husband is a vaping fiend....lol. A tobacco I expect to wait a week or more and I would expect the flavor to change too. I don't get that with these. Are you vaping all bakery or fruit exclusively? I am not, I rotate things out so maybe that has something to do with different tastes among us....lol
When you actually put the flavors in with the VG/pg at least with the the chocolates, you can see the actual separation and the slight heat is just to speed up the dispersement of the chemicals through the whole mix. We each have to do what works for us and i see nothing wrong with letting it sit a week or more if thats what it takes for your tastebuds.
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Chill out Shiloh..none of us are attacking you, or saying that you're wrong, just relaying our own experiences
Having said that.....
For the most part with Capellas I find for me overnight is good. Now there are some (and Shilo if you had one sitting around long enough you'd probably agree) that get stronger with age. Chocolate brownie is one of them, apple pie is another.
To be honest, whenI first tried apple pie I didn't care for it. I could taste a hint of apple, and that's about it. I started at 5% as always and let it sit overnight. meh
Bumped it up to 10%, overnight again, better, but I don't taste any darned crust ?!$&@????
After a week or so (I'd frankly forgotten all about it and moved on....) on a whim I gave it a hit
Whoooooooaaaa!! What is THIS?! I want more of this flavor....there's crust in there!
...so I bumped it up to 15% and waited overnight again.
This has become one of my favorite vapes. I made up a 50 ml bottle and have a loooot of juices mixed up, switch up several times a day, and rotate them all (3 or 4 flavs) every week or so (this simply means I pull 3 or 4 flavors out of my stash for my daily rotation). EVERY time I go back to the apple pie it's richer and tastier. Why? I don't know, but over time it's developed such a depth and richness, it puts me in ind of a sweet apple tobacco...that's what made me think about adding black fire.
I experienced similar results with the chocolate brownie, but because of past experience with chocolate I still can't vape it.
I don't wait (except overnight) or steep, or bathe as a rule but whatever works for you is fine.
I will say though, if you mix up capella cheesecake and don't wait a week, you'll have a nice popcorn vape.
If you mix up Capella apple pie and don't wait a few days you'll have a pleasant appl-y juice, but you'll not experience the depth of this flavor which is substantial.
Just my two cents, ymmv
added: sorry this is so looooooong
and sorry for the other...it was a 'joke' of sorts...poor taste, my apologies..I'm going to go take a nap now...
Having said that.
For the most part with Capellas I find for me overnight is good. Now there are some (and Shilo if you had one sitting around long enough you'd probably agree) that get stronger with age. Chocolate brownie is one of them, apple pie is another.
To be honest, whenI first tried apple pie I didn't care for it. I could taste a hint of apple, and that's about it. I started at 5% as always and let it sit overnight. meh
Bumped it up to 10%, overnight again, better, but I don't taste any darned crust ?!$&@????
After a week or so (I'd frankly forgotten all about it and moved on....) on a whim I gave it a hit
Whoooooooaaaa!! What is THIS?! I want more of this flavor....there's crust in there!
...so I bumped it up to 15% and waited overnight again.
This has become one of my favorite vapes. I made up a 50 ml bottle and have a loooot of juices mixed up, switch up several times a day, and rotate them all (3 or 4 flavs) every week or so (this simply means I pull 3 or 4 flavors out of my stash for my daily rotation). EVERY time I go back to the apple pie it's richer and tastier. Why? I don't know, but over time it's developed such a depth and richness, it puts me in ind of a sweet apple tobacco...that's what made me think about adding black fire.
I experienced similar results with the chocolate brownie, but because of past experience with chocolate I still can't vape it.
I don't wait (except overnight) or steep, or bathe as a rule but whatever works for you is fine.
I will say though, if you mix up capella cheesecake and don't wait a week, you'll have a nice popcorn vape.
If you mix up Capella apple pie and don't wait a few days you'll have a pleasant appl-y juice, but you'll not experience the depth of this flavor which is substantial.
Just my two cents, ymmv
added: sorry this is so looooooong
and sorry for the other...it was a 'joke' of sorts...poor taste, my apologies..I'm going to go take a nap now...
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