I dont get any coconut at all in lemon merange pie . That one to me is spot on to the real thing. A little lemon with lots of merange just like the real thing.
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(First, my apologies for the length, but it's got some great info)
I agree w/GD. The flavorings in water do not reflect the taste when they are mixed & vaped. I know because I tried the drops in H2O, too
I have used Capella Chocolate Fudge Brownie in my AM coffee just to see what would happen. (Mind you that I do use milk & sugar in my coffee.) 4-6 drops in a MUG of coffee & the flavor is great. A 10 oz coffee mug is ~295 ml which equals about 1 drop @ 59 ml. So 1 drop in 5 ml is VERY strong when you swish/drink it. WAY past the good flavor threshold.
The best method I've found for testing individual flavors is the 20 drop vape test that Str8V8ping recommends. This method seems to reflect the true flavors.
This is Str's method from a post somewhere here in ECF land (I saved it to a Word doc, so it's now a cut & paste job):
I fill a 3ml bottle with 20 drops of pg with dropper .The bottle is marked off for the 20 drop level. Then i add one drop of flavoring with the same dropper. I then shake the bottle and put 3 drops in a atty and vape it. I then add 2 drops pg and another drop flavoring to keep the bottle at the marked level . Next i drop 3 drops and vape (10%) . Then repeat until 20-25% just to be sure i dont undershoot my sweet spot and to know what it tastes like when it reaches a over flavored percentage . On flavors i think are going to be stronger i will start with a 40 drop base so i can start at 2.5% . Its not 100% accurate but its pretty close . I have done this on about 90 out of the 100+ flavorings i have .Its works really well to improve your diying . I dont know how id diy without doing it now . On each flavor i take notes and right down the sweet spot percentage and then taste notes on the flavor and overflavor etc . I also let them steep when im done and try it the next day and write notes on the taste after steeping.
I used this method last night to try 5 new flavors, noted findings & wrote down the percentages, mixed some juices today, & the flavors are right on
Gloria - IMHO, I find that EM sweetens without being overly sweet & it doesn't have an artificial aftertaste. It also adds some "body" to the mixes.
I agree tasting in water is not going to be the same as vaping it. Also your right in that EM gives that finished juice feel not really a sweetness unless you use a lot.
Maybe the coconut is between my ears! When the wife gets back I'll let her taste it without telling her what it is and see what she thinks. She's the queen of coconut. That's all she vapes!
Since thats all she vapes ,maybe you got some left over coconut in one of your attys ?
Never going to happen. We both use carto's in tanks but to test new mixes I use 306 atties. As all she vapes is coconut, no need to test. Also, if I ever used coconut in an atty I'd have to throw it out. I hate coconut that much! Anyhow, what I tasted was a very slight hint of it. I'm sure it's just my over-sensitivity to coconut. On the other hand, I'm enjoying the Root Beer Float at the moment.
Just wanted to add about trying the Cap flavors in the water. Like most said its not going to taste the same but in Glycerin that will actually make the flavor a bit sweeter than water will. Was actually talking to Tom about this when discussing a number of his flavors.
@Newwell...thanks so much for your VERY imformative post. I will take your advice to use Str8's method of testing flavors. No more slacking by using the water method. LOL
@shilocalista...glad you got a chuckle out of my wonky tastebuds and fruit flavors...I debated whether or not to share that info
I'm so tickled to have both of you helping me in my foray into DIY!!
From what I've tasted so far of Capella's flavors in VG/PG, I think that what you all have been saying about their flavors being a good place to start for newbie DIY is good advice. Thanks everybody!!!
@shilocalista...glad you got a chuckle out of my wonky tastebuds and fruit flavors...I debated whether or not to share that info
I'm so tickled to have both of you helping me in my foray into DIY!!
From what I've tasted so far of Capella's flavors in VG/PG, I think that what you all have been saying about their flavors being a good place to start for newbie DIY is good advice. Thanks everybody!!!
Yes a splash. That's a technical term, a little more than a smidgen, a little less than a glob.
LOL That's how I usually DIY. It makes it hard to share recipes though.
That's OK. You're all giving me great ideas to try when I get the coop lot. I've been wading through this and other threads, and copying ideas into a word document. I have about 8 pages already - could you please slow down so I can catch up?
I'm also finding how many times you guys keep answering the same questions since this thread has gotten so long. I'm in awe of your patience.
I got the lemon merange pie flavor yesterday and mixed up 12 ml with 70%PG 30%VG 18% flavor and added 3 drops of sweetner. I only let it steep for a couple of hours. I put some LMP juice in my 3.7 ohm Fliuxo vaped at 6.5 Watts on my Darwin and LMP has to be the best flavor I have ever tasted!! I loved it so much that I ordered a 4 oz bottle of the flavoring. To me it tastes spot on like actual lemon merange pie. The only taste that is missing is the crust. My favorite LMP is one that has graham cracker crust so I am going to try adding a small amt of graham cracker flavor to the mix. Anyone that hasn't tried this flavor and of course likes LMP should try it.
Yea it really cant get much more spot on. Im sure youd like it even more in a boge with higher VG and a couple other flavors in there to bring out the richness of it
I'm confused about snick snack its description on the site is: A delicate blend of Milk Chocolate, Nuts, Caramel, and Nougat. but the bottle that came is labeled snickerdoodle type which is a cinnamon-sugar cookies and I can taste cinnamon not caramel and nougat did they send the wrong stuff? I think I'll email them
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I'm sorry. I do not want to hijack this thread. But I want people to fully understand the risks of caramel color.
Caramel color is KNOWN to cause lung, liver, or thyroid cancer or leukemia in laboratory mice or rats. That is by simply injesting. I imagine this risk would increase dramatically with inhalation. Basically, we are replacing a known cancer causing product, cigarettes, with another cancer causing product, vaping with caramel color.
There is no need to add caramel color. This is confirmed by a large supplier of caramel color:
"Caramel Color is not a flavor but simply a coloring agent. When Caramel Color is used at the usual low concentrations required in most food coloring applications, it generally has no significant effect on the flavor profile of the finished product."
Yea it really cant get much more spot on. Im sure youd like it even more in a boge with higher VG and a couple other flavors in there to bring out the richness of it
What other flavors do you suggest to enhance the richness? I will make another bottle which I will allow to sleep for a week tonight to see how extened steep time effects the flavor. I have some Boges but a modded CE-2 for me gives a cleaner flavor. I do plan on trying LMP juice with a dual coil tank. I have tried going higher on the VG with other mixes I have made but the VG seems to mute the flavor requiring a higher flavor % and/or extended steep time. What do you do differently when you mix higher VG% juices?
Just wanted to ask Str8 about mixing nic juice at the end or the begining and what effect does it have doing either way? I didn't think it would matter the order of adding nic, vg,pg and then flavor. For me its I start with the nic > then add VG > Then add PG ( at this point my syringe is pretty much cleaned and can be stored right after ) > then flavoring ( using a separate syringe for this always ).
@Newwell...thanks so much for your VERY imformative post. I will take your advice to use Str8's method of testing flavors. No more slacking by using the water method. LOL
@shilocalista...glad you got a chuckle out of my wonky tastebuds and fruit flavors...I debated whether or not to share that info
I'm so tickled to have both of you helping me in my foray into DIY!!
From what I've tasted so far of Capella's flavors in VG/PG, I think that what you all have been saying about their flavors being a good place to start for newbie DIY is good advice. Thanks everybody!!!
You are welcome Gloria. This thread is getting a bit wonky too with all different conversations going on at the same time. I think we need a new thread for Capella's help only or Capella's Chit Chat. This thread is hard to follow at times as its turned into all of the above and more. Glad to hear you are liking them better today.
Quick question. How many drops of Capella flavor straight out of their bottle equals 1 mil please?
After posting this I see on their website that they say there are 225 drops per 13 mil bottle. So, that would make it about 17 drops per mil. Has anybody done the actual measuring and found that to be about right?
Thanks!
After posting this I see on their website that they say there are 225 drops per 13 mil bottle. So, that would make it about 17 drops per mil. Has anybody done the actual measuring and found that to be about right?
Thanks!
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Capella snickerdoodle/Snick snack is SNickers candy bar not cookies . You have some taste bud issues if you taste cinnamon. They dont make a snickerdoodle cookie.It tastes just like the candy bar too. The name on the bottle was a mistake when it first came out which they changed the name the same day. Theres about 20 posts about this a few pages back in this thread.
Caramel color is used in almost everything. They would need to remove half the things in a supermarket to avoid caramel color. Its also used in lots of flavorings and vendors juice. Caramel color does give color mostly but does also give caramel taste as well. Pete and i have both experimented with it in its pure form.
Whats caramel color supplier tells people they should not use there own product?
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