Card Fraud

[The Ocelot]

Email it to me if you would: judgedredd@e-cigarette-forum.com

Thank you very much, I can't read online very well.

 

[r77r7r]

Mind if I copy your signature?

Sure thing. Lol, guess I should've asked Supermarket that ( stole it from him).

Hey Supermarket..............

I've updated the link for the GoogleDoc because it didn't work after the thread was closed.

I hope many people copy that signature also ( with Super's permission).

 

[Zooker]

Glad to see the form back up, submitted my info. Thanks for doing this!

 

[Stoneface]

Woot! Welcome back and a big thanks!!

 

[Judge Dredd]

Sure thing. Lol, guess I should've asked Supermarket that ( stole it from him).

Hey Supermarket..............

I've updated the link for the GoogleDoc because it didn't work after the thread was closed.

I hope many people copy that signature also ( with Super's permission).

Thanks!

Glad to see the form back up, submitted my info. Thanks for doing this!

No problem, and thank you for the praise!

Woot! Welcome back and a big thanks!!

No problem, and thank you for the praise!

 

[Judge Dredd]

In order to come to a definitive conclusion, I'll need more data, so please keep the reports coming!

 

[WhatSheSaid]

I sent my report. I went ape.... when I woke up this morning to an "order confirmation" from Walmart.com for nearly $400.

Sent from my Galaxy Note II on Straight Talk

 

[Judge Dredd]

I sent my report. I went ape.... when I woke up this morning to an "order confirmation" from Walmart.com for nearly $400.

Sent from my Galaxy Note II on Straight Talk

Thanks!

 

[AaronM]

I sent my report. I went ape.... when I woke up this morning to an "order confirmation" from Walmart.com for nearly $400.

Sent from my Galaxy Note II on Straight Talk

Interesting... Was that something from your online bank statement or email when your card was used or something like, or was it an email conformation direct from Wal-Mart?

 

[Sm0kyBlue]

You can't use paypal in the US for vaping supplies.

wv.. I use paypal with W*&^%$(&.com** with zero issues.. I tried one other site for diy stuff and with their 3 digit number system, well.. I won't spend any money there. It refused to take 2 of my 4 cards. The owner got rather snippy, blaming me*. That person will never see me on her site again. I support my local B&M shops, there are 3, and only been to one, but I used paypal there too.. M(*&.com** takes my paypal too.. and not once, has the account been compromised.. I realize there are exceptions, and cc theft does happen. I am grateful to not have any issues and can use the paypal acct for what I need online. Just wanted to share..

Hope you are doing alright.. been so busy here, family coming.. I havent had time for a lot of postings.. Miss everybody, but will be back!!

Actually, she blamed my bank and paypal. Weird tho.. I can go anywhere on line and buy what I need, just not at her site.. With an attitude like that.. I am sure wl likes my funds tho..

**edited so that if it's true paypal gets ugly.. maybe it will slow things down, so we can find a complaint petition to "repair" the "why wont paypal" let us purchase vape gear.. dimple google search can lead to a bunch or petitions.. thing is, is there anyone able to sign?

 

[Robino1]

Smoky, could you remove the names of the vendors that take PayPal? If they are caught, their account Will be suspended as will yours! Thanks!

 

[Teach]

Finally found this again... gotta tag!

 

[Sm0kyBlue]

Smoky, could you remove the names of the vendors that take PayPal? If they are caught, their account Will be suspended as will yours! Thanks!

Robin.. I understand, as long as it is not placed on site (for tobacco use), paypal will allow their company to be used. I did edit.. words play a big part.. if only other companies that want to make money, can understand this. Paypal is pretty good at fighting fraud.. thing is, how open to changing a few bits, so others won't loose money, like in my case.. for now I think the "lady" has bumped her head.. when she could have made 70.00 or more, shame really.. and not on me.

As far as cancel me.. Paypal is the only place that does not know me as Smoky Blue or Sm0kyBlue ^_^ haha!!

 

[b34tn1k]

Added mine from March

 

[Qew]

My card was hit last month with a fraudulent charge from paypal. Someone got my CC info and used it to fund a paypal purchase of a game download from Tradebit Inc. Citi did not catch it, I saw it and called them. It was a real treat to have a convo with Citi and paypal on the same call.

I've tried to use virtual account number and it will just not work for me. Not sure if it's user error or what, but when I sign in it tells me my user name or password is wrong (it's not). No one at Citi seems to be able to explain why or fix it. But I digress....

I'd purchased from several vendors in the two months before the fraudulent charge, I really don't know which transaction(s) to suspect. If it would help, I could email the list of vendors and dates of my purchases to you, the form doesn't seem to have space for a list.

 

[Judge Dredd]

My card was hit last month with a fraudulent charge from paypal. Someone got my CC info and used it to fund a paypal purchase of a game download from Tradebit Inc. Citi did not catch it, I saw it and called them. It was a real treat to have a convo with Citi and paypal on the same call.

I've tried to use virtual account number and it will just not work for me. Not sure if it's user error or what, but when I sign in it tells me my user name or password is wrong (it's not). No one at Citi seems to be able to explain why or fix it. But I digress....

I'd purchased from several vendors in the two months before the fraudulent charge, I really don't know which transaction(s) to suspect. If it would help, I could email the list of vendors and dates of my purchases to you, the form doesn't seem to have space for a list.

Almost every field on the form should be set to paragraph format. Though if you'd prefer, you can send it to:

judgedredd@e-cigarette-forum.com

Thanks!

 

[The Ocelot]

My card was hit last month with a fraudulent charge from paypal. Someone got my CC info and used it to fund a paypal purchase of a game download from Tradebit Inc. Citi did not catch it, I saw it and called them. It was a real treat to have a convo with Citi and paypal on the same call.

I've tried to use virtual account number and it will just not work for me. Not sure if it's user error or what, but when I sign in it tells me my user name or password is wrong (it's not). No one at Citi seems to be able to explain why or fix it. But I digress....

I'd purchased from several vendors in the two months before the fraudulent charge, I really don't know which transaction(s) to suspect. If it would help, I could email the list of vendors and dates of my purchases to you, the form doesn't seem to have space for a list.

Interesting - I had a 3-way call with BoA and PayPal. Someone used my BoA Visa to pay their PayPal Mastercard bill. I don't have a PayPal Mastercard, but they opened a fraud investigation anyway because their name was involved.

 

[C Heise]

The commonality may not even be site or processors, it could be a browser security issue. As of today, if you log into paypal with IE it says the browser has known security issues even when all updates are applied. Maybe the web browser used during the transaction should be added to the spreadsheet?

 

[curisu]

thanks to this thread I learned about Citi virtual account numbers. awesome service, one I plan to use for years to come.

nice to be worry-free with online purchases!

 

[supermarket]

Put yourself in their shoes for just a second. One person comes to you and says their card got hacked after ordering from them. Yet no one else says the same thing. Is the vendor really responsible for that? Lets say the vendor really tired to make things as secure as possible. They don't want it to be from their end, that would be bad for business. But say it happens once or twice out of every thousand orders, I would have a hard time believing it was from my site.

Now if it does pan out to be the credit card processor that is the common denominator, who else but us are in a position to discover this? Ideally it would be the financial institutions that REALLY should be the ones to do the detective work. THEY are the ones losing the money, not us! The only thing that happens on our end is the card gets cancelled and a new one issued. An inconvenience for sure, but we end up not being out financially, unless we aren't vigilant and it slips by the finance department.

I place the blame on the financial institutions for not tracking down and not getting together to see where the patterns are. If it turns out that it is the credit card processors, then we can ask the vendors who they use for processing cards. And if it seems to be a credit card processor that is the common denominator and a vendor refuses to acknowledge that fact, then and only then, would I refuse to do business with them. To blame the vendor at this point? No. The financial institutions really should be the ones doing this work!

What makes you assume just ONE person, out of the possible thousands plus from each vendor who is becoming a victim of fraud, would contact the vendor?

Maybe you don't grasp the scale of fraud occuring here, but I'm willing to bet each vendor involved has hundreds upon hundreds of possible fraud cases.

I think the vendors involved are FULLY aware of what is going on here, I think they just don't know what to do, or don't care. I understand that finding a CC processing company is difficult for e-cig vendors.