carto tanks.. back to basics

[silversx]

after using everything such as genesis and rebuildables (i still use them).. the one thing i have never used is a carto tank.. so i picked up some j tanks and some boge laser cut cartos..

tell me if this is your experience..

1. cartos mute the flavor.. juices that taste very strong in my genesis and rebuildable drip atties taste.. mild

2. cartos in tanks don't wick very well.. the laser cut boges come with one big hole.. i'm actually punching two more holes myself and i use only 70/30 pg/vg juice

3. cartos that are in a tank is only wet where the holes are.. the top of the carto near the opening never gets wet like a newly filled carto..

this is my experience so far.. i've messed around with about 10 cartos in 2 j tanks and another pyrex tank from misc vendor

i'm not getting dry hits at all.. just muted hits.. when the carto is fully filled from the condom.. it's great.. but even with 3 holes it never gets back to that state unless i take multiple sharp dry pulls to get some bubble action going which is a pain..

the holes i made are big.. not tiny.. am i just spoiled by dripping we coils that i'm used to in my genesis and rebuildable devices?? any advice?

 

[dirtyrigger]

after using everything such as genesis and rebuildables (i still use them).. the one thing i have never used is a carto tank.. so i picked up some j tanks and some boge laser cut cartos..

tell me if this is your experience..

1. cartos mute the flavor.. juices that taste very strong in my genesis and rebuildable drip atties taste.. mild

2. cartos in tanks don't wick very well.. the laser cut boges come with one big hole.. i'm actually punching two more holes myself and i use only 70/30 pg/vg juice

3. cartos that are in a tank is only wet where the holes are.. the top of the carto near the opening never gets wet like a newly filled carto..

.. am i just spoiled by dripping we coils that i'm used to in my genesis and rebuildable devices?? any advice?

Yes, yes, yes, and finally yes. Carto tanks are a compromise. More convenient than dripping, but you don't have to know how to build a coil and IMO they work better than clearomizers.

 

[kazimir]

I played around with a few hole patterns and the one that worked best for me was 2 holes stacked. 1 at the bottom per usual and 1 about 1/8-3/16th of an inch higher. The holes are about 3/32s in diameter. The top doesn't say 100% wet, but with 2 drops is soaked like new. On tank refills, I top the carto off.

Out of 3 punch patterns I tried, all but 1 worked (think I crushed the center).

True beauty for me is I fill 2 tanks and make it through a work day w/ 0 spills or maintenance and I have never had a carto tank leak. I always have my PVs in my pocket and walk around a lot.

Daily, I take a syringe and put it in the bottom of the carto. Then I pull on the syringe as I twist it into the carto hole over the coil. This removes a surprising amount of residue from the coil and it improves the taste. Depending on use and juice type, they seem to get gummed up by the darker juices.

After 4 days, the flavor starts to mute a bit, but when it mutes too much (only replaced 2 now after 7 days each), I replace it and back to new.

Note: I never let the carto tank fully dry and always make sure when I hit it, the hole is submerged. It might work, but I am a bit paranoid about it.

I go through 3-6ml/day on each cartos. The cartos as a whole last on average 25ml or so.

They are not as good as my cobra when I can get the metallic taste out...

 

[eagarcia123]

just got my j tank and I must say... im ...... already since I cracked the glass tube by putting in the caps... money down the drain

 

[RosaJ]

I use sidewinder carto tanks from Valley View Vapes and every once in a while I unscrew the side plug/screw to refill the carto. You can tell because bubbles come out of the carto holes.

 

[CJB]

Kazimir - I like the idea of stacking holes. Im gonna have to try that.

Silversx- Direct dripping is a bit stronger in my opinion. However, I dripped enough when I started to last a lifetime. Dripping all day sucks. Its carto/tank for me all the way. Lighter/thinner liquids work the best for longer periods of time for sure. I use 3 hole Smok Tech cartos and never have wicking issues. The top of the carto doesnt need to stay drenched to keep it hitting good. As long as juice is feeding to the coil. I see bubbles come out of the holes with nearly every drag. No issues. After about 5 days I replace the carto. Thats about when I start noticing the flavor getting muted

 

[tj99959]

I've been using the same old J-tanks since there were J-tanks. Don't want anything to do with the glass ones tho.

But no, they do not taste like dripping, or an RBA. That's why I'm dripping unless I'm going to be driving. Also, there is no need for the top of the carto to be wet, the coil is down by the hole where it is wet.

BTW, all I use in my J-tanks is 50/50 juice that I also get from ENS. It's plenty thin enough since one of the ingredients is water.

In the end carto tanks are no different than anything else, some will like them ... some won't.

 

[Baditude]

I've been using the same old J-tanks since there were J-tanks. Don't want anything to do with the glass ones tho.

But no, they do not taste like dripping, or an RBA. That's why I'm dripping unless I'm going to be driving. Also, there is no need for the top of the carto to be wet, the coil is down by the hole where it is wet.

In the end carto tanks are no different than anything else, some will like them ... some won't.

Why the disdain for pyrex tanks?

Never got the hang for dripping. Never tried an RBA, but I will likely have one some day. I've tried just about every other juice delivery device, though. !00% carto tanks for me. My experience has shown me they give me the best flavor.

I do strongly prefer the single coil cartomizers. And I also prefer the lazer-drilled cartomizers. Many of the dual coil cartos that I had tried left a burnt taste; I suspect that since the second coil is higher in the carto as a distance from the juice fill hole, that it may sometimes end up burning its protective covering or the polyfill itself. I also found that using manufacturer-drilled holes, that these provide a level of consistancy carto to carto that I couldn't provide myself punching my own.

The ce3's I use to test flavors in. Clearo's are fine when they work and don't leak, the vivi tanks mute many of my flavors compared to side by side comparisons with the same flavors in my cartotanks.

 

[Duranu]

I've just started using carto tanks myself, having been using cartos (without tanks) and moving on to clearomizers (the mini vivi nova being a favorite). I haven't tried the condom filling method, but what I do is get the carto inside the tank, fill up the tank, push the carto all the way up, then I put 10-20 drops into the carto, the same way I used to fill my old ones. Just a drip to the sides, getting it nice and moist inside. After that, drip tip on, and vape. Haven't had any issues so far, aside from one carto that liked to leak (after having vaped almost two full tanks through it). When that happened, just figured it was time for a new carto and replaced it.

I haven't experienced any dry hits yet, even when I do 3-4 strong pulls before putting the pv down. Obviously really depends on the quality of the carto being used as well.

I've also been using only 50/50 pg/vg mixes as well. Haven't tried any other ratios. That's my experience so far with them, anyway.

 

[tj99959]

Why the disdain for pyrex tanks?

Glass brakes ....

 

[Plumes.91]

carto tanks for me

 

[Absintheur]

Glass brakes ....

plastic cracks....

shrugs All I can say is avoid dropping it. I have been using glass tanks for the better part of a year and haven't damaged one yet. I have have several plastic ones crack however. I also think some of the platics can alter the flavor of a juice, particularly ones like citrus.

I have found the best flavor comes from a single coils carto, I like Ikenvapes. I vape 50/50 almost exclusively and double punching works great for me. I punch mine with a heavy duty saddle valve by the way. The flavors are not as intense as dripping but it is a trade off...dripping while driving is tough. I have found that going with a higher voltage with a 2.5-2.8 carto helps push the flavor better.

 

[The Ocelot]

Glass brakes ....

I have 3 OCD tanks from IBTanked and the glass is pretty darn thick.

 

[Boognish]

I have been building coils for rba tanks the last 2 months. I just made a few ss mesh wicks for my vivi novas after reading about it on a thread here and watching a youtube tutorial vid. It works awesome btw.... Carto tanks are still my go to though for the last 7 months. I've never had them leak. They work great for me outside the house on a daily basis. I notch mine 2x with a Dremel. One slightly above the other. I usually vape at 5-6 volts or 9-10 watts on a single coil. I can almost watch the juice level go down in the tank as I vape. If it does ever get dry or muted I just take some dry pulls after the coil and juice are hot. I can easily get the entire carto saturated that way. I also use needle tip bottles to fill my cartos and tanks. I don't know why people still use syringes. The needle tip caps are so much easier...

 

[Faylool]

I will drip, or prime my carto if needed. I think you might try different cartos myself from what I read and my own experience. If I get carried away with number of holes I get flooding. Worse than too dry because dripping doesn't correct it and usually just keeps happening. I buy two or one hole whatever I find in my brand, smoktek, that is cheaper and low delivery price. I use 70/30 pg/VG and standard resistance or low depending on some things. So it might be the carto. Mine surely would and surely have flooded with 3 hole laser drilled. Just bought a hole puncher just in case to try. I also love the idea of stacked holes so gonna try. One Aussie poster said one at top and one at bottom was a great fix. I'm not sure if he meant at top above the juice line but I assume he did, or I remember it that way