Carto Technical Tips Trials

[KENNY V]

Ok Guys as you can see I am new tovaping and have a few technical Q's regarding Cartos. Out side of mywithdrawal symptoms I am eager to regulate my nicotine and get vaping successfully. 2 days ago I received my Volcano Inferno . Iuse both tank & carto set up with both 650-900 mAh powersource. I ordered a bunch of juices and some extra Cartos. Fromvarious vendors. Ohh took apart an old carto to make an Atto todrip. ( I like drippin)


Anyways what id like to know a fewthings regarding Carto's. From what I learned you need approx15-20 drops to prime/ fill depending on what size carto you areusing. For best performance and life of coil its best to keep themmoist with juice.


How long does it take in Hits untilyou need to refill them ? . Long and short style Carto's .
How do you know its time to top off orrefill them?


Will you be able to tell you are low onjuice without cooking the coil or burning the poly fill.?
( please give example)


also when using refiling or tryingother juices can you add the new flavor. ( or top off ) to the lastcarto of similar flavor . ( example fruit to fruit tobacco totobacco) or do you have to use new carto's altogether else theywill taste like crap . Another words can ya top off the new juiceflavor ,stay with that juice for a day or so and then top a new juicethat may be similar in flavor?




And how bout dripping


Using approx 1-2 drops how many vapesshould you get before needing to add juice?
How do you prevent from cooking coilor know when its time to add juice ?
And do you clean coil or just addjuice on top to vape next flavor


thanks
Kenny v

 

[jerseyrob]

High Kenny , I'll try to answer this for you. When using carto's after your primary fill, and after vaping for a bit the flavor will become muted (not much flavor) . When this happens its time to fill. You can fill by the condom method again , Or just drip around the sides till the filler looks wet . Blow out end ,and resume vaping.
Dripping 2 to 3 drops will yield 3,4,5 puff's . I never mix juice flavors on anything , one carto ,or addy 1 juice . I'm sure people mix juices, but I don't . Hope this helps a little .

 

[KENNY V]

High Kenny , I'll try to answer this for you. When using carto's after your primary fill, and after vaping for a bit the flavor will become muted (not much flavor) . When this happens its time to fill. You can fill by the condom method again , Or just drip around the sides till the filler looks wet . Blow out end ,and resume vaping.
Dripping 2 to 3 drops will yield 3,4,5 puff's . I never mix juice flavors on anything , one carto ,or addy 1 juice . I'm sure people mix juices, but I don't . Hope this helps a little .

Well I cut my juices so don't know or cant tell im looking for a rule of thumb so I know what my nicotine intake is as per 20-40 drops of juice / carto

sorry to be PIA but What is rule of thumb as far as how many hits you get out of a sm/lg cardo on a refill...

and other than that when do you now its time to top off esp if ya dont want to burn out cardo



The dripping makes sense and sounds ez to calulate / regulate

 

[Baditude]

I use the top fill method for filling/refilling my cartos. When filling your carto either used alone or when prepping it for your tank, the following trick will make it easier and faster.

Plug the center airhole with a wooden tooth pick. This will block the air chamber from getting unwanted juice in there.

 

[Earth Magnet]

I'm new to this, but after a bunch of trial an error I tend towards refilling more often than not. As soon as the flavor and vapor start to diminish (and I know I have a fully charged battery), I add 5 to 10 drops.

I also use the "shake and throw" method where I'll hold the carto in my hand (battery end down) and make a throwing motion towards the floor as if I were throwing a ball really hard at the floor. That seems to send all the liquid down towards the bottom instead of pooling on top and waiting for it to sink in. Once a see a drop or two coming out of the battery end I stop filling. I also don't have to wait before I vape that way.

I also never mix flavors as everyone has said. I typically mark my cartos with a sharpie and put a small strip of packaging tape of the label so it doesn't smudge:


Hope that helps!

 

[KENNY V]

Filling .... thanks makes sense I was under an impression they only held about 40 drops looks like much more. I know it may be stupid Q but how many hits should a filled cardo last ?

I dont think im vaping enough and concerned about getting too much nicotine at the same time .

 

[sawlight]

Filling .... thanks makes sense I was under an impression they only held about 40 drops looks like much more. I know it may be stupid Q but how many hits should a filled cardo last ?

I dont think im vaping enough and concerned about getting too much nicotine at the same time .

This is an impossible question to answer! I'm sorry, but it's so subjective that there is not true answer! Do you do a prime puff and draw? How long and hard do you draw? How long between draws? There's just to many variables to give a true answer!
I could make a cig last ten min, or I could suck one down in less than three!
I tend to do a primer puff or two then take a long draw. Some just suck it right down. If you are hitting it constantly it's still evaporating juice as it sits because the coils stay hot.
The "myth" that a carto is the same as a pack of cigs is a misnomer! Some can do it, but most can't! Most of us want a warmer vape so we use a primer puff to heat it up, this burns juice.
I've had day where I've gone through 3ml in a tank, I've had days I've gone through 18ml of juice in a day. It just varies on what I'm doing and how I feel.
I'm sorry, but it's just not a question that can be easily answered!
As for filling carto's, there are more ways to do that than days in the year! I finally went to the syringe method after trying to "spin" them. I've since moved to tanks and never been happier!
Your dripping question, it's about the same, how hard and long do you hit it? How big of drops do you use? I have a Trivveca (Rainbow) dripping atty, it holds about eight drops, I get about four hits and I have to top it off. Others claim they can go hours on it?

 

[KENNY V]

I bought a few Super Shorty 1.7 Ohm 510 Chrome Cartomizers

They like hold nothing in juice , was wondering a few things I noticed that they burn hoter than the 1.5 Duel coil in my tube tank set up..
nice vape nice hit Tho but I think it like drained my battery up like real fast........
is that common or was it / is a dud Cartomizer? Cuz it is NOT working anymore

Yesterday I ordered a bunch of standard size low resistance 2.0 Ohms Cartos but have to wait and drip till they come.

If ya dont mind me asking What will be the difference in vape between using a 1.5 shorty or a
2 ohm carto?


Better faster warmer harder hit and if so that means shorter battery life before recharge Right ?


Thanks and Not to be PIA but the only carto's I have this size may be duds so I need to ask but was wondering . Does a battery light blink when when you kill the carto or when the battery is making bad connection to the carto ?

I am using the Vocano Inferno .650-900 mAh power sources. What hap is I had to recharge like right after I tried these new Carto's then the carto doenst fire so can I chuck it up as being a dud?

 

[cocacola31173]

I use cartos mainly and the way I do is to put the carto with the juice bottle with a rubber band. Then I will use different colored drip tips to sort the cartos out. Like green for menthol, brown for tobacco and I have a pink for my fruity ones. I am looking to try a cart tank but haven't got there yet.

Also with dripping I only use bridgless atomizers with a drip shield...That way if you do over drip all you have to do is suck it back up into the atomizer.

 

[KENNY V]

Had a great Vape night feel much better too Ahhh!!!! was able to enjoy the last few hours and vape a few new flavors too . I been u tubin around and saw some reviews on the ce3 cartomizer . It holds 1.5 ml of liquid , its a bottom feeder and sounds like its a cleaner vape. From what I saw It looks better than Cardo's and sounds like it provides a decent vape .

The reviews I read were good out side of one said there is a break in period. Has anyone tried them?
if so what do ya think of the flavor ?

The company I saw was named Elite does anyone have a recommended vendor and recommendation to use these cardo's?



Note : .I found the product descrption .seems seems like 2.4 is the lowest ohm
.can I use this with a 650-900mAh power source and still get a nice vape?

thanks
Vape on man
Kenny v

 

[KENNY V]

Kernny V Wrote:

. I been u tubin around and saw some reviews on the ce3 cartomizer . It holds 1.5 ml of liquid , its a bottom feeder and sounds like its a cleaner vape. From what I saw It looks better than Cardo's and sounds like it provides a decent vape .

The reviews I read were good out side of one said there is a break in period. Has anyone tried them?
if so what do ya think of the flavor ?


Note : .I found the product descrption .seems seems like 2.4 is the lowest ohm
.can I use this with a 650-900mAh power source and still get a nice vape?


The company I saw was named Elite does anyone have a recommended vendor and recommendation to use these cardo's?

Bump ..

thanks so much Guys/ gals and vapreretts , you are the greatest .. I have some new carto's on order . However like to get these ordered soon as possible. So if you know if i can use them with my set up ( power source ) and if they are any good..... preference, compare info .... love to get a reference as well as recommendation of a supplier to get these ordered asap
thanks again

Kenny V

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

Hi Kenny
Glad to hear you had a good vaping session the other night. Finally, huh? Good for you.

You have lots of questions. So I will address the ones I know about.

Cartomizers: the best cartomizer for your use depends on the VOLTAGE of your battery. Not the mAH of your battery. As an example, my battery is 3.7 VOLTS. I use a 1.7 ohm cartomizer. Why? I like a warmer vape. It gives me a throat hit. I used to use 2.0 ohm cartomizers. They give me a cooler vape. Why? Ohms measures resistance. I want LESS resistance to the battery voltage. So a lower number is what I look for in my cartomizer.

Now, about those super shorty 1.7 ohm cartos... They only hold 15 drops. Give great flavor & throat hit for me. They work best in a REO device or a Vapage V-mod type device. These are different devices from what you are using & so I would not recommend them for you at this time. LOL. You can send them all to me. Haha. Just kidding.

Did I help you a little?

 

[KENNY V]

Has anyone used the New CE3 Cartomizer - Elite Bottom Coil Cartomizer
what are your experiences ? Taste flavor, hit esp compared to poly filled Carto's?

I would like to order these ASAP but first need to find out CAN I use these style carto's ?
what would be the proper Ohm choice? (2.4 Ohm is the lowest)

will they work well with my batteries that are 3.7 V ?

Ohh btw I have a Volcano Inferno .- both tank & carto set up w/ 650-900 mAh power sources
thanks Here is the link

AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | CE3 Cartomizer - Elite Bottom Coil CE3 Cartomizer

 

[r77r7r]

I can't even find a replacement battery on that expensive website. I was looking to see if it's a regular ego copy. If it is, it's regulated at 3.4 volts and that 2.4 clearo will be rather cool, but usable.

You'll just get various opinions on whether they're as good/ better than filler cartos. You'll have to test them yourself, everyone's different.

 

[markfm]

The Inferno is Volcano's version of an eGo, a 510-connector "fat battery" PV (fat means much larger than the tiny cigarette-sized 510 batteries, more mAh so longer lasting).

For cartomizers, you want things that say "510", that's the connector type.

On eGo type batteries I stayed with 2 ohms, which is cooler than 1.7 ohms. The smaller the ohms, the hotter for a given battery, though shorter run time between recharges. A 2.4 ohm cartomizer will, to me, run a bit too cool on a standard eGo type battery, though they will work. I prefer 2.4 ohms up at around 4.5 - 5 volts. 2.4 ohm will be a lot cooler than a 1.7, it only uses 70% as much power (heat).

I like filler type cartomizers, but that's just me. I use the ones from IkenVape, very consistent quality. For clearomizers, many shops carry them. For filler cartomizers there are shorties, standard, and mega (or XL); XL holds a decent amount of eliquid, though what I use is a standard length inside a tank.

Good luck -- looks like you're learning this stuff pretty fast. It's trial and error for all of us, finding the right mix of things to keep us happily away from cigarettes.

 

[KENNY V]

The Inferno is Volcano's version of an eGo, a 510-connector "fat battery" PV (fat means much larger than the tiny cigarette-sized 510 batteries, more mAh so longer lasting).

For cartomizers, you want things that say "510", that's the connector type.

On eGo type batteries I stayed with 2 ohms, which is cooler than 1.7 ohms. The smaller the ohms, the hotter for a given battery, though shorter run time between recharges. A 2.4 ohm cartomizer will, to me, run a bit too cool on a standard eGo type battery, though they will work. I prefer 2.4 ohms up at around 4.5 - 5 volts. 2.4 ohm will be a lot cooler than a 1.7, it only uses 70% as much power (heat).

I like filler type cartomizers, but that's just me. I use the ones from IkenVape, very consistent quality. For clearomizers, many shops carry them. For filler cartomizers there are shorties, standard, and mega (or XL); XL holds a decent amount of eliquid, though what I use is a standard length inside a tank.

Good luck -- looks like you're learning this stuff pretty fast. It's trial and error for all of us, finding the right mix of things to keep us happily away from cigarettes.

I got it sounds like I need more power no? . Or it would be fine ?
Will the CE3 2.4 Ohm work and would I get a decent vape production. ?

And can you compare this New carto 2.4ohm to a double coil 1.5 Ohm in a tube tank? w/Same battery source 3.7 V . Would it be comparable at all or even worse?
Another words should I ditch the New carto w/ my current battery source.

I think im gona want power like real fast.... and I have only got to experience with a shorty 1.7 Ohm and a home made ato drip some reason I like it hot...
Now I don't think my stock tube tank hits as good as I would like it to.

 

[markfm]

If you liked the vapor and warmth of the 1.7 ohm, I'd probably stay with something in the 1.7 - 2.0 ohm region, single coil. 2.4 ohm will be noticeably cooler, less vapor, kind of blah if you like warm.

1.5 ohm dual coil can be kind of stressful on smaller, 650 mAh, batteries. Many people use them, I know, but they fit better with 18650-battery mods where you have a large IMR battery (IMR is a type of battery chemistry that can output lots of amps with no difficulty; 18650 is a size of cylindrical battery, used in PV that use separate batteries with normal battery chargers).

For a quick introduction to more power, search for "eGo twist". It is a pretty affordable variable voltage pv. If you get one of those, yes, you can absolutely use a 2.4 ohm clearomizer; I've used 2 - 2.4 ohms on them, no issue.

My own gear is mainly notcigs Buzz Pro and REO VV Grand. A buzz pro with two sets of batteries, and charger, runs up around $110, the REO is around $200. A 1000 mAh eGo twist runs about $25, and the charger for it is maybe $15 (not sure if you can use the Inferno charger with eGo twist).

 

[KENNY V]

If you liked the vapor and warmth of the 1.7 ohm, I'd probably stay with something in the 1.7 - 2.0 ohm region, single coil. 2.4 ohm will be noticeably cooler, less vapor, kind of blah if you like warm.

1.5 ohm dual coil can be kind of stressful on smaller, 650 mAh, batteries. Many people use them, I know, but they fit better with 18650-battery mods where you have a large IMR battery (IMR is a type of battery chemistry that can output lots of amps with no difficulty; 18650 is a size of cylindrical battery, used in PV that use separate batteries with normal battery chargers).

For a quick introduction to more power, search for "eGo twist". It is a pretty affordable variable voltage pv. If you get one of those, yes, you can absolutely use a 2.4 ohm clearomizer; I've used 2 - 2.4 ohms on them, no issue.

My own gear is mainly notcigs Buzz Pro and REO VV Grand. A buzz pro with two sets of batteries, and charger, runs up around $110, the REO is around $200. A 1000 mAh eGo twist runs about $25, and the charger for it is maybe $15 (not sure if you can use the Inferno charger with eGo twist).

Got it bottom line I need more power
What do ya think of the Joye eGo-C type models that use ce3 type cardo ?
How is the vape ? is it better than Poly filled Carto's and similar to a drip ?
Think im going to get that next but not sure the difference between the Type A B ato's . Howdoes the drip tanks works . Is it gravity fed I cant seem to find something that shows. If you have any working knowledge can you share a bit

Also let me ask would the duel coil Carto 1.5 Ohm tube tank set up Run ok on ego twist VV battery? Im thinking of getting the battery anyways
thanks , if anyone else has experience with either model please chime in

 

[Baditude]

The reviews I read were good out side of one said there is a break in period. Has anyone tried them?
if so what do ya think of the flavor? The company I saw was named Elite does anyone have a recommended vendor and recommendation to use these cardo's?
Note : .I found the product descrption .seems seems like 2.4 is the lowest ohm
.can I use this with a 650-900mAh power source and still get a nice vape?

Your battery should handle that resistance fine.

I've not tried the ce3 cartomizers. I sort of have a biasis against string wicked devices not providing enough flavor, but that's just me. I've seen mixed reviews of these in the cartomizer subforum. Some people like them, others don't. Just like anything else out on the market, there's no consensus.

 

[KENNY V]

Your battery should handle that resistance fine.

I've not tried the ce3 cartomizers. I sort of have a biasis against string wicked devices not providing enough flavor, but that's just me. I've seen mixed reviews of these in the cartomizer subforum. Some people like them, others don't. Just like anything else out on the market, there's no consensus.

thanks so what would you recommend for best flavor? Something that has As a tank system and that is small?

And if I can pick your brain I like the flavor of driping and not too fond on any Juices so far from using Carto's and Duel tube tank Carto . Already looking into getting new equipment , Any suggestions I am open ?

And do you you know if the Ego- C Ato system provides a vape closer to dripping ?
are ther still whicks on that system?
TIA