Cartomizers and hydrogen peroxide. Stupid, or genius?

[Automaton]

So, I just dropped my worst carto in a bit of 3% hydrogen peroxide. I may or may not keep it even if this works, as I suspect singed filler, but I figured as long as I'm likely to throw it out anyway, I might as well try it.

I'm going to leave it for an hour, give it a good rinse with water, and let 'er dry for a couple days.

Anyone tried this before? Am I an idiot? Or is this actually a not-completely-reckless idea?

 

[Jynn]

I don't know of it will work, but I also don't see how it could hurt

 

[Automaton]

Well, it's going to be dry in a bit... I found some kitty med syringes that are perfect for jetting air through it to finish drying...

Can anyone tell me if vaping this will kill me?

 

[coolone1]

This is how I clean mine and it works very well. Gets rid of that burnt taste.

YouTube - KR808D-1 Carto Cleaning: Quick-n-Easy.

 

[NCC]

I don't know of it will work, but I also don't see how it could hurt

What she said.

Well, it's going to be dry in a bit... I found some kitty med syringes that are perfect for jetting air through it to finish drying...

Can anyone tell me if vaping this will kill me?

It's harmless. Even if there was a trace of the H2O2 remaining, it easily breaks down to water and oxygen with a little heat, such as from the atomizer. Even if that weren't the case ... the H2O2 is pretty benign stuff, especially at 3%.


Yeah, the pure stuff is rocket fuel, literally.

 

[Automaton]

Sweet. If this goes ok (considering I'm not expecting decent performance from this carto anyway, no matter what I do), I'm going to go to town. All my cartos are desperately in need of cleaning.

And I don't have a pan to boil them in. Yes, really. I just moved. I'm broke. Screw this. Bring on the peroxide.

 

[lorikay13]

So, I just dropped my worst carto in a bit of 3% hydrogen peroxide. I may or may not keep it even if this works, as I suspect singed filler, but I figured as long as I'm likely to throw it out anyway, I might as well try it.

I'm going to leave it for an hour, give it a good rinse with water, and let 'er dry for a couple days.

Anyone tried this before? Am I an idiot? Or is this actually a not-completely-reckless idea?

No....No....and Yes.

I was going to give you my method but then I saw that you are broke I'll give it anyway...this is my carto survival kit:

1 30ml bottle of PGA (Everclear....pure grain alcohol)
1 roll of paper towels
1 can of air without bitterent

thats it......

I just run a couple droppers full of PGA through my 4081's and 510s...blow them out by mouth then blow out the threads with the canned air. yeah okay...it will taste like alcohol unless you let them dry out completely...but what do you think e-juice makers put in e-juice to make all that nice vaper and TH ? So unless your in a 12 step program this is a great method. Apint of Everclear in Oregon is $10....and unless you get desperate and drink it...that should last a year.

As for the Peroxide....I'm gonna try it! It's used extensively in the holistic health field....although people drink it and not vape it. But it should be easy enough to do some basic research...MSDS is the place to start...find out if their are any inhalation warnings. Then look at the firefighting data...those are the guys who will know if anyone will.

Thanks for the intersting tip!!!

 

[Automaton]

Well, the filler is white as freshly driven snow now, and there's absolutely no smell. So, good sign.

I did a search, and found a couple other scattered references to cleaning crtos with H2O2. No one appears to have died yet.

I've also read about people using H2O2 throat sprays for various stuff, and also not dying. So, another good sign.

I'm gunna give it a go. I'll letcha know how it comes out tomorrow.

 

[lorikay13]

well....here is what I found:

Hydrogen peroxide, either in pure or diluted form, can pose several risks:

* Explosive vapors. Above roughly 70% concentrations, hydrogen peroxide can give off vapor that can detonate above 70 °C (158 °F) at normal atmospheric pressure.[citation needed] This can then cause a boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion (BLEVE) of the remaining liquid. Distillation of hydrogen peroxide at normal pressures is thus highly dangerous.
* Hazardous reactions. Hydrogen peroxide vapors can form sensitive contact explosives with hydrocarbons such as greases. Hazardous reactions ranging from ignition to explosion have been reported with alcohols, ketones, carboxylic acids (particularly acetic acid), amines and phosphorus.[citation needed]
* Spontaneous ignition. Concentrated hydrogen peroxide, if spilled on clothing (or other flammable materials), will preferentially evaporate water until the concentration reaches sufficient strength, at which point the material may spontaneously ignite.[39][40]
* Corrosive. Concentrated hydrogen peroxide (>50%) is corrosive, and even domestic-strength solutions can cause irritation to the eyes, mucous membranes and skin.[41] Swallowing hydrogen peroxide solutions is particularly dangerous, as decomposition in the stomach releases large quantities of gas (10 times the volume of a 3% solution) leading to internal bleeding. Inhaling over 10% can cause severe pulmonary irritation.[citation

yeah so I'm gonna say....be careful!

seriously....if you need something to vape safely...just ask!

Myself and countless others will be happy to mail you what you need...please...just ask.

 

[NCC]

@lorikay13: Concentration is the key here. Your source is not talking about OTC H2O2 like you buy in the store. It's talking about rocket fuel, or close to it. Yee Gads, 70%!

What was being discussed by the OP was 3%, not even the 10% which got the caution at the end.

 

[zoiDman]

@lorikay13: Concentration is the key here. Your source is not talking about OTC H2O2 like you buy in the store. It's talking about rocket fuel, or close to it. Yee Gads, 70%!

What was being discussed by the OP was 3%, not even the 10% which got the caution at the end.

You are correct.

70% H2O2 could be used as a liquid rocket fuel. Mixed with powered rubber you have solid rocket fuel. It will also burn under water.

But back to reality, I've used 2% Hydrogen Peroxide in cartos and as long as you give then a good rinse or two, I think it is safe.

 

[lorikay13]

I do understand that....I'm a licensed Pest Control Officer.

but concentration varies with evaporation..as I am sure you know. My point was simply that this MAY not be as harmless as it originaly seemed and that I would rather mail this girl a bottle of PGA then see her do something that MIGHT be harmful.

Vaping anything is still an unknown...I'm just saying....why push the envelope?

 

[markfm]

One thing for me is not to cook them afterward -- I plan on doing rice or silica gel next time for drying.

 

[Automaton]

Well, I pushed some air through it with a syringe - not that hard, I didn't think - loaded up the carto, pressed the button away from my mouth, just in case, aaand...

Dead as a doornail. Absolutely nothin'. Didn't even heat up.

Crap. Another one bites the dust.

 

[lorikay13]

dont give up on it...it might just still be too wet....try blowing it out by mouth as hard as you can....and then see if it works. I know you said you just moved...but do you have a vacuum cleaner with a hose? if you do do putting the hose on the blower position with that little crack/crevice nozzle is a great way to blow these out as well.

 

[klikmaus]

Joecartoon Stoneflies YEAH! It's too bad that Joe went lame and switched his website to youtube though...

 

[imbt01]

on a lighter note.....you could be vaping and whitening your teeth at the same time.....

 

[kellie]

Welcome back.

 

[Old Chemist]

You are correct.

70% H2O2 could be used as a liquid rocket fuel. Mixed with powered rubber you have solid rocket fuel. It will also burn under water.

But back to reality, I've used 2% Hydrogen Peroxide in cartos and as long as you give then a good rinse or two, I think it is safe.

Well, let me correct it a bit - hydrogen peroxide in this case is usually not a fuel, but a source of oxygen. Sometimes it can be used as so called monopropellant, but that's another story.
From my personal experience - long time ago I was working with 99% H₂O₂. That was really something. It's so strong that if you put a piece of paper into this liquid, it immediately turns black. Sometimes you can even see a flame.
Such a concentrated stuff was used as an oxidizer by Germans in their V-2 rockets during WW2.

2-3% solution is perfectly safe if you rinse your stuff after using.

 

[JC Okie]

Cassie, it's good to see you. I'd sure be sooooo happy to send you some supplies. You helped me so very much when I first started vaping, and it'd love to send you some cartos......or even a pan to boil your old ones in!

Jan