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What's all this fuss about dual coil cartos???
5CS said they weren't all they were cracked up too be....
Thanks for the heads up on that Bro...saved me from having 2 packs of useless stuff for the yard sale pile.....
I knew from the git go they wouldn't play on the Infinity.....now it seems the Pro-Vari nor the Darwin likes them much either...Why risk your PV just for the latest greatest carto??? I'll bet the Buzz would run them fine...It runs the finicky 306 when others won't??????
Cartos......The biggest issue I find with cartos is wicking juice too the coil...Get too chain blasting that puppy and you'll see what I mean...They need a bit of a rest between huffs too perform their best...Now you're gonna add another coil and enhance the wicking issue??? Sure it's not a problem for short puffs...I drop the hammer....no short puffing here....
IMO what's really needed is @3.0 ohm, fatter, bigger coil with more packing..Something that would retain and wick juice better...Wick every last drop of juice...Good luck with that...If it's not Boge or IKV...well it's most likely just a gimmick....
 

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What's all this fuss about dual coil cartos???
5CS said they weren't all they were cracked up too be....
Thanks for the heads up on that Bro...saved me from having 2 packs of useless stuff for the yard sale pile.....
I knew from the git go they wouldn't play on the Infinity.....now it seems the Pro-Vari nor the Darwin likes them much either...Why risk your PV just for the latest greatest carto??? I'll bet the Buzz would run them fine...It runs the finicky 306 when others won't??????
Cartos......The biggest issue I find with cartos is wicking juice too the coil...Get too chain blasting that puppy and you'll see what I mean...They need a bit of a rest between huffs too perform their best...Now you're gonna add another coil and enhance the wicking issue??? Sure it's not a problem for short puffs...I drop the hammer....no short puffing here....
IMO what's really needed is @3.0 ohm, fatter, bigger coil with more packing..Something that would retain and wick juice better...Wick every last drop of juice...Good luck with that...If it's not Boge or IKV...well it's most likely just a gimmick....
The part bolded in your quote is soooo important. I wish people would pay more attention to that. They complain right off the batt that stuff tastes burnt....

Well if ya take 10 drags off it in under a minute its gonna burn! LMAO
 

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What's all this fuss about dual coil cartos???

Same fuss as always with cartos, atties, juice, PVs -- some people who've tried them like 'em, some people who've tried them, don't. Gimmick? I don't know. But I do like them -- never met a Boge that I liked, nor any of IKV's cartos except the Fusion and the mega 808s (which are now replaced by the DC in my happy lil' world) Fusions are a bit better with two certain juices for me; DC's rockin' with everything else. Fusions have an availability issue, DC's not so much. Some peeps have had QC issues with the DCs. I've been lucky so far and actually have had more QC issues with the IKV mega 808s, to date. Pros and Cons for both, bottom line is what you, as an individual like. And how can a person really know if he hasn't tried one? Of course, if one's PV won't run them or one is happy with what one's got, its all moot. :) The power of choice -- its a good thing.

(BTW, my Buzz runs them fine and I am hoping the Buzz Pro will, too. And a bigger capacity Fusion would be grand, especially in black enamel :drool:!)
 
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What's all this fuss about dual coil cartos???
5CS said they weren't all they were cracked up too be....
Thanks for the heads up on that Bro...saved me from having 2 packs of useless stuff for the yard sale pile.....
I knew from the git go they wouldn't play on the Infinity.....now it seems the Pro-Vari nor the Darwin likes them much either...Why risk your PV just for the latest greatest carto??? I'll bet the Buzz would run them fine...It runs the finicky 306 when others won't??????
Cartos......The biggest issue I find with cartos is wicking juice too the coil...Get too chain blasting that puppy and you'll see what I mean...They need a bit of a rest between huffs too perform their best...Now you're gonna add another coil and enhance the wicking issue??? Sure it's not a problem for short puffs...I drop the hammer....no short puffing here....
IMO what's really needed is @3.0 ohm, fatter, bigger coil with more packing..Something that would retain and wick juice better...Wick every last drop of juice...Good luck with that...If it's not Boge or IKV...well it's most likely just a gimmick....

I bought a pack for testing but # 1 didn't like them at all .
I guess I'm out. I gave them away.
 
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Were all with ya Mike.

I think sales will speak for themselves when the pro series debuts. The naysayers will be buying the same as they always have.

Who really gives a hoot what 2 idiots have to say? There are many people in this world that have nothing more to do than run around shooting off their mouths about stuff that they obviously know nothing about from what they have posted thus far. I guess maybe they have some sort of inferiority complex and think this makes them look smarter. I don't know and I don't care. It's like static on a radio, I just tune it out.......Oh and laugh to myself.
 

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I think the concept of the dual coils is interesting, but at 1.5 Ohm you would be pulling 3Amps at 4.5V and 4Amps at 6V, That's a lot to pull from these batteries.

El Dee makes an awesome point about wicking - I think that is a huge point that most people do not think about. I think moving to a higher surface area of exposed atomizer coil and higher surface area of quality wicking material is the way to go.

I have been wanting to try some other cartomizers. It may have a lot to do with the juices I am using, but it only seems to take a day or 2 before I get much less flavor and vapor and a very tight draw. The IKV cartos are all very good, I find the fusions the best. The 808 Megas are great to start with but I find very quickly I need to put about 5 drops in to get them to work, any more and they are leeking. I feel like I am wasting a lot of juice in them compared to how much use I get out of them. The 510 v2 gold I like a little better than the 808 Megas, but again they seem to get a very hard draw after a couple of days. Out of all the IKV's I have tried so far the I like the Fusions the most but they still seem to not work great within a day or 2. I am not criticizing IKV, it probably has a lot to do with the juices I am using(mostly BWB or similar DIY lately) and I have not compared them to many others.

However, I hate to say it but the Cartos that I seem to get the most use out of are the rn4081 cartos I am re-using from my smokestik. They are 3.4 Ohm horizontal coil cartomizers. While they offer a bit less flavor and vapor than the 801 Fusions, I seem to get over a week out of them before their performance degrades. Maybe the filler is packed more loosely - I don't know.

I am tempted to try those 5 Ohm cartos that were mentioned by Bluzeman. At least I think I would like to find some good cartos in the 3.5 Ohm range to try out. I never actually use my Infinity over about 4.3V as everything seems to burn above that.

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After rambling along earlier when I posted this I think I lost my point, lol. Do others have problems with some juices, particularly darker tobacco juices "clogging" up cartos more quickly than other juices or causing them to not perform well very long? I hate to keep going through my "good" cartos on certain juices that seem to "kill" them quickly, can anyone recommend some decent cheap cartos that I won't feel bad about only getting a couple of days out of? Have I completely lost my mind and no one has any idea what I am experiencing?
 
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Well I have been proven wrong but it isn't the first time and it won't be the last I'm sure. Someone was saying that cartos didn't wick right and I told them I haven't had that problem but I'm starting to have a wicking problem with this fusion I'm vaping on. It was fine and worked flawlessly for the first 24days and now it's starting to act up. Oh well I guess I'll have to toss it.
 

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After rambling along earlier when I posted this I think I lost my point, lol. Do others have problems with some juices, particularly darker tobacco juices "clogging" up cartos more quickly than other juices or causing them to not perform well very long? I hate to keep going through my "good" cartos on certain juices that seem to "kill" them quickly, can anyone recommend some decent cheap cartos that I won't feel bad about only getting a couple of days out of? Have I completely lost my mind and no one has any idea what I am experiencing?

G, I absolutely think that the dark colored juices clog cartos faster. As far as cheaper cartos, hard to say since most I have used that were worth a dang to me are about the same price as the Fusions...$1.70 or so each. I think I was paying $7.99 for a 5 pack of the boges from CoV
 

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I tried a couple of cheap cartos months ago; they ruined me, turned me into a savage anti-carto bigot heretofore, until the present company nudged me in the direction of Ikenvape.

That said, I can't claim to get 24 days or anything close to that out of them. I get a good week until the funk begins to set in—and yes, I use relatively dark tobacco liquid exclusively.

G$, what PG/VG ratio have you been using?
 

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G, I absolutely think that the dark colored juices clog cartos faster. As far as cheaper cartos, hard to say since most I have used that were worth a dang to me are about the same price as the Fusions...$1.70 or so each. I think I was paying $7.99 for a 5 pack of the boges from CoV

Thank you Bov, I am sure you are right. I have been saving my Cartos to see if I can "clean" them later, but I had a fusion that "died" so I am going to dissect it and see what is happening. I had gone to 70/30 PG/VG on my last DIY batch and that and the BWB I was using really stopped these cartos dead in there tracks pretty quickly. I am going to move back towards 90/10 and see what happens. I am not ready to give up on the dark tobacco juices just yet but it may also be the Tobacco Absolute/Tobacco Extract that's causing the problem. I also have a "prototype" automatic Cartomizer cleaner design in mind, I think I might build when I get a chance.

5c - the wicking issues some people describe could be completely attributed to their use of VG. I see a huge difference in wicking between 100% to 90% PG versus even 70%PG or lower. Unless thinned with water or alcohol VG is just MUCH thicker than PG.

PI - as I said above BWB RY4 and eJoker were the last as well as some 70/30 pg/vg I mixed up. as you put it, "the funk set in" pretty quickly. Much quicker then any of the lighter juices or 90/10 mixes I have made.
 
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Have you ever thought what enamel does when it gets hot or sticker glue for that matter.
The 901 cartos Isaac has have the enamel. I never saw any issue with it at all. In fact it seemed to hold up flawlessly against the heat. I know his new attys will have the enamel. Should be on his site in around 2 weeks.
I tried a couple of cheap cartos months ago; they ruined me, turned me into a savage anti-carto bigot heretofore, until the present company nudged me in the direction of Ikenvape.

That said, I can't claim to get 24 days or anything close to that out of them. I get a good week until the funk begins to set in—and yes, I use relatively dark tobacco liquid exclusively.

G$, what PG/VG ratio have you been using?
Pretty much my experience as well. About a week. Frankly if I get a week im super happy. I do get one now and then that last much longer but on average a week. I do know the BWB RY4 is massively hard on my fusions. Ive killed 5 this week. Made me sad :(
 

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I don't bother with trying to clean my cartos other than leaning over the bathroom sink and blowing the crap out of the battery end every couple of days. I do that when it's time to top one off. I have been known to use plain PG and overfill before I blow it out if I think it needs a better flush, it helps rinse that stale juice out. I haven't had any luck with boiling or rinsing with hot water, it's too much a PITA. I keep a big sized sewing needle and ream out the center if it looks funky too. I average about 2 weeks on a carto and that's acceptable to me.
 

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I tried a couple of cheap cartos months ago; they ruined me, turned me into a savage anti-carto bigot heretofore, until the present company nudged me in the direction of Ikenvape.

That said, I can't claim to get 24 days or anything close to that out of them. I get a good week until the funk begins to set in—and yes, I use relatively dark tobacco liquid exclusively.

G$, what PG/VG ratio have you been using?
Neither do I normally, that was a rarity for sure. I didn't think that one would ever stop. Anything over 5 days I feel is icing on the cake.

The 901 cartos Isaac has have the enamel. I never saw any issue with it at all. In fact it seemed to hold up flawlessly against the heat. I know his new attys will have the enamel. Should be on his site in around 2 weeks.
Pretty much my experience as well. About a week. Frankly if I get a week im super happy. I do get one now and then that last much longer but on average a week. I do know the BWB RY4 is massively hard on my fusions. Ive killed 5 this week. Made me sad :(
I've read that many people love those cartos but I have to be honest about it. But there you go see it's all about preferences and vaping styles.


I don't bother with trying to clean my cartos other than leaning over the bathroom sink and blowing the crap out of the battery end every couple of days. I do that when it's time to top one off. I have been known to use plain PG and overfill before I blow it out if I think it needs a better flush, it helps rinse that stale juice out. I haven't had any luck with boiling or rinsing with hot water, it's too much a PITA. I keep a big sized sewing needle and ream out the center if it looks funky too. I average about 2 weeks on a carto and that's acceptable to me.

I used to clean them too but I threw out about 50 that I was going to clean yesterday. I think the reason why is I get so much time on Ikenvapes cartos that it don't make sense to recycle any more. Plus after the great vapor and taste along with that longevity the recycled ones don't taste as good. His carto's spoiled me.
 
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