Rand Paul would be perfect for this.
Hes a doctor. I know hes in the US Senate but hes your go to guy from Kentucky
Hes a doctor. I know hes in the US Senate but hes your go to guy from Kentucky
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HFA (1, S. Lee) - Amend to delete references to electronic cigarettes.
Even though this is filed to delete e-cigs references, (a) still looks like a problem.
(11) "Smoke" or "smoking" means:
(a) The inhaling, exhaling, burning, or carrying of any lighted or heated cigar, cigarette, hookah, pipe, plant, or any other material intended for inhalation, in any manner or any form;
Note the phrase "lighted or heated"
Dear Representative Palumbo,
Id like to encourage you to vote YES on HFA1(1, S. Lee) amendment to HB190 to exclude electronic cigs from the bill.
Additionally, language might be amended so as not to inadvertently include electronic cigarettes
(11) "Smoke" or "smoking" means:
(a) The inhaling, exhaling, burning, or carrying of any lighted or heated cigar, cigarette, hookah, pipe, plant, or any other material intended for inhalation, in any manner or any form;
Note the phrase "lighted or heated"
As of February 10th, 2013, I am smoke free for 2 years.
Thank you for consideration,
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Id like to encourage you to vote YES on HFA1(1, S. Lee) amendment to HB190 to exclude electronic cigs from the bill.
Additionally, language might be amended so as not to inadvertently include electronic cigarettes
(11) "Smoke" or "smoking" means:
(a) The inhaling, exhaling, burning, or carrying of any lighted or heated cigar, cigarette, hookah, pipe, plant, or any other material intended for inhalation, in any manner or any form;
Note the phrase "lighted or heated"
As of February 10th, 2013, I am smoke free for 2 years.
Thank you for consideration,
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Actually this whole definition is over broad. Any material intended for inhalation in any manner or form?
Like air? We should ban indoor air use. Everyone who breathed air in 1850 is now dead. Breathing air has a 100% mortality rate. We must stop this killer from taking any more lives. Ban it now!
Sent from my over priced cellular communication device.
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The Lexington Herald-Leader wrote an editorial opposing Rep. Stan Lee's amendment to remove e-cigs from HB 190
Include e-cigs in Ky. smoking ban | Editorial | Kentucky.com
Thanks for the heads up from Placebo Effect.
I sent the following letter to the editor at
Submit a letter to the editor for Lexington, KY | Lexington Herald-Leader
As a public health activist who has campaigned to ban smoking in workplaces for the past 25 years, Im pleased that Herald-Leader editors have endorsed smokefree workplace legislation in Kentucky.
But your recent editorial was dead wrong in opposing Rep. Stan Lees critically important amendment to remove HB 190s unwarranted and counterproductive ban on electronic cigarette (e-cigarette) use.
Unlike combustible cigarettes, e-cigarettes emit no hazardous tobacco smoke and pose no risks to nonusers. As such, there is no public health rationale to ban e-cigarette use in workplaces or public places.
E-cigarette use has never complicated enforcement of smokefree workplace laws, which your editorial falsely asserted, as even ...... can tell the difference between a burning cigarette and a smokefree e-cigarette.
In sharp contrast to other claims in your editorial, e-cigarettes pose no known health risks to users, but instead provide health benefits to smokers every time they use an e-cigarette instead of smoking.
Existing evidence indicates that e-cigarettes are >99 less hazardous than cigarettes, and have already helped millions of smokers quit and/or sharply reduce cigarette consumption.
Finally, Representative Lees amendment to remove e-cigarettes from HB 190 should be supported because the bill now falsely defines smoking as using a smokefree e-cigarette. Radically changing the definition of a word in a stealth attempt to ban the use of a lifesaving product is unethical and deceitful.
Bill Godshall is executive director of Smokefree Pennsylvania.
William T. Godshall, MPH
Executive Director
Smokefree Pennsylvania
1926 Monongahela Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15218
412-351-5880
smokefree@compuserve.com
Include e-cigs in Ky. smoking ban | Editorial | Kentucky.com
Thanks for the heads up from Placebo Effect.
I sent the following letter to the editor at
Submit a letter to the editor for Lexington, KY | Lexington Herald-Leader
As a public health activist who has campaigned to ban smoking in workplaces for the past 25 years, Im pleased that Herald-Leader editors have endorsed smokefree workplace legislation in Kentucky.
But your recent editorial was dead wrong in opposing Rep. Stan Lees critically important amendment to remove HB 190s unwarranted and counterproductive ban on electronic cigarette (e-cigarette) use.
Unlike combustible cigarettes, e-cigarettes emit no hazardous tobacco smoke and pose no risks to nonusers. As such, there is no public health rationale to ban e-cigarette use in workplaces or public places.
E-cigarette use has never complicated enforcement of smokefree workplace laws, which your editorial falsely asserted, as even ...... can tell the difference between a burning cigarette and a smokefree e-cigarette.
In sharp contrast to other claims in your editorial, e-cigarettes pose no known health risks to users, but instead provide health benefits to smokers every time they use an e-cigarette instead of smoking.
Existing evidence indicates that e-cigarettes are >99 less hazardous than cigarettes, and have already helped millions of smokers quit and/or sharply reduce cigarette consumption.
Finally, Representative Lees amendment to remove e-cigarettes from HB 190 should be supported because the bill now falsely defines smoking as using a smokefree e-cigarette. Radically changing the definition of a word in a stealth attempt to ban the use of a lifesaving product is unethical and deceitful.
Bill Godshall is executive director of Smokefree Pennsylvania.
William T. Godshall, MPH
Executive Director
Smokefree Pennsylvania
1926 Monongahela Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15218
412-351-5880
smokefree@compuserve.com
This was a hot topic of conversation on 630 WLAP Lexington radio today. I was the 1st caller and the replay should be up sometime tomorrow at http://www.wlap.com/pages/podcast.html under Matt Walsh 2-19 3rd hour. I should be near the beginning of the segment.
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It is extremely important for many Kentucky vapers to contact and urge their State Rep to support Rep. Stan Lee's amendment to exempt e-cigs from HB 190.
If Lee's amendment passes (and if the bill is enacted), there will be NO confusion whether the amended bill applies to e-cigs (i.e. it won't), as the intent of Lee's amendment (which is to eliminate e-cigs from the bill) would legally trump any discussion over the ambiguity of the definition of "smoking".
It would also help if lots of Kentucky vapers contact and thank Stan Lee for proposing his amendment, as he is now champioining the cause in KY.
Lee may or may not have an opportunity to introduce his filed amendment on the floor of the Kentucky House, as the only way Lee's filed amendment can be introduced is if the underlying bill (HB 190) is brought up for consideration by the Kentucky House, which will only occur if the sponsors think they have enough votes to get it approved.
Its important for Kentucky vapers to build a bond with Stan Lee, as we may need to ask him to file the same amendment to a nearly identical bill in future sessions of the Kentucky legislature. It's also possible that Lee's filing of the amendment this year may convince Ellen Hahn and sponsors of HB 190 to eliminate e-cigs from their bill next session.
If Lee's amendment passes (and if the bill is enacted), there will be NO confusion whether the amended bill applies to e-cigs (i.e. it won't), as the intent of Lee's amendment (which is to eliminate e-cigs from the bill) would legally trump any discussion over the ambiguity of the definition of "smoking".
It would also help if lots of Kentucky vapers contact and thank Stan Lee for proposing his amendment, as he is now champioining the cause in KY.
Lee may or may not have an opportunity to introduce his filed amendment on the floor of the Kentucky House, as the only way Lee's filed amendment can be introduced is if the underlying bill (HB 190) is brought up for consideration by the Kentucky House, which will only occur if the sponsors think they have enough votes to get it approved.
Its important for Kentucky vapers to build a bond with Stan Lee, as we may need to ask him to file the same amendment to a nearly identical bill in future sessions of the Kentucky legislature. It's also possible that Lee's filing of the amendment this year may convince Ellen Hahn and sponsors of HB 190 to eliminate e-cigs from their bill next session.
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Representative Lee,
Thank you for your sponsorship of the amendment to exempt electronic cigarettes from HB 190.
I have contacted Representative Palumbo to encourage her support.
As of February 10, I have been smoke-free for 2 years. I credit electronic cigarettes for this.
Best regards,
D_ick
Thank you for your sponsorship of the amendment to exempt electronic cigarettes from HB 190.
I have contacted Representative Palumbo to encourage her support.
As of February 10, I have been smoke-free for 2 years. I credit electronic cigarettes for this.
Best regards,
D_ick
Reply: "Thank you for the kind email. Should the bill come up for a vote, I will call my amendment."
Matt Olmstead (Fazed) was recently a guest on a KY radio station discussing the topic. The host, while not a smoker or vaper, completely supported our right to vape.
You can listen to the short discussion here:
Local Radio Host Discusses Inclusion of Electronic Cigarettes in KY Smoking Ban | Ecig Advanced News
You can listen to the short discussion here:
Local Radio Host Discusses Inclusion of Electronic Cigarettes in KY Smoking Ban | Ecig Advanced News
BIG UPDATE
The Kentucky ban is, for all intents and purposes, dead. Again, they don't have the votes to pass it Statewide Kentucky smoking ban not likely to come to vote » Evansville Courier & Press
The Herald Leader also published Bill Godshall's letter to the editor on Sunday -- Letters to the editor/Smoking ban: Feb. 24 | Letters to the Editor | Kentucky.com
And they also published a letter from Rep. Stan Lee today -- Letters to the editor: Feb. 26 | Letters to the Editor | Kentucky.com
The Kentucky ban is, for all intents and purposes, dead. Again, they don't have the votes to pass it Statewide Kentucky smoking ban not likely to come to vote » Evansville Courier & Press
The Herald Leader also published Bill Godshall's letter to the editor on Sunday -- Letters to the editor/Smoking ban: Feb. 24 | Letters to the Editor | Kentucky.com
And they also published a letter from Rep. Stan Lee today -- Letters to the editor: Feb. 26 | Letters to the Editor | Kentucky.com
Favorite passages from Rep. Stan Lee's letter:
Letters to the editor: Feb. 26 | Letters to the Editor | Kentucky.com
Thank God for elected officials who fight on the side of truth. Now if only we could get a few bureaucrats (who claim to be on the side of public health) to do the same.
Letters to the editor: Feb. 26 | Letters to the Editor | Kentucky.com
Thank God for elected officials who fight on the side of truth. Now if only we could get a few bureaucrats (who claim to be on the side of public health) to do the same.
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With HB 190 very likely dead (i.e. the Democrat KY House Speaker referred it to Judiciary)
http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/13RS/HB190.htm
Rep. Susan Westrom might consider excluding e-cigarettes from her smokefree workplace legislation in the future (if she truly wants to get her smoking ban bill enacted).
If Westrom wants to get her legislation approved by the KY House in the future (and then by the KY Senate), she knows that her legislation will be even further amended with exemptions (e.g. bars, clubs) and maybe with local preemption before being enacted into law. So it makes no sense for her to continue fighting an ideological battle over e-cigarettes.
But I suspect that e-cigarette prohibitionist Ellen Hahn may continue urging Westrom to keep the e-cigarette usage ban in future bills.
Now might not be the not the best time to approach Westrom (asking her to remove e-cigs from her future legislation), however, as she's probably still in mourning from this week's almost certain death of HB 190.
http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/13RS/HB190.htm
Rep. Susan Westrom might consider excluding e-cigarettes from her smokefree workplace legislation in the future (if she truly wants to get her smoking ban bill enacted).
If Westrom wants to get her legislation approved by the KY House in the future (and then by the KY Senate), she knows that her legislation will be even further amended with exemptions (e.g. bars, clubs) and maybe with local preemption before being enacted into law. So it makes no sense for her to continue fighting an ideological battle over e-cigarettes.
But I suspect that e-cigarette prohibitionist Ellen Hahn may continue urging Westrom to keep the e-cigarette usage ban in future bills.
Now might not be the not the best time to approach Westrom (asking her to remove e-cigs from her future legislation), however, as she's probably still in mourning from this week's almost certain death of HB 190.
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Since there were just two amendments filed to HB 190 (Stan Lee's e-cig exemption, and Westrom's smoking lab exemption), it appears that Westrom's bill didn't and doesn't have nearly the level of support in the KY legislature that she, Hahn and the news media tried to generate.
Had opponents of HB 190 thought that the bill had any chance of being approved by the House, they would have filed amendments to the bill to exempt bars and clubs (and probably many other facilities) from the smoking ban, and probably would have filed an amendment to preempt local ordinances.
Also please note that Westrom's bill had only 4 cosponsors, indicating relatively little support for her bill.
Had opponents of HB 190 thought that the bill had any chance of being approved by the House, they would have filed amendments to the bill to exempt bars and clubs (and probably many other facilities) from the smoking ban, and probably would have filed an amendment to preempt local ordinances.
Also please note that Westrom's bill had only 4 cosponsors, indicating relatively little support for her bill.
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