CE-2s are inconsistant

[tornado9015]

Once again, many of the issues people are having with the working e2 r4 is the ohm, to many vendors still are selling the 2.5 ohm e2 r4 and thats not meant for 3.7 period. now this isnt the users fault but im just letting you people know,for the e2 to work properly the 2.5 ohm should be used at 3. 0 to 3.2 volts.

for 3.7 voltss you need the 2.8 to 3.1 e2 r4 which will not give you the bad dry taste.

this applies to working good e2r4 becuase right now many have bastomizer r4's and others are selling r4's that dont vape and those are bad plain and simple while others are selling the real r4 but at 2.5 ohms and that aint gonna cut it.

i sent out many real r4's with proper ohms 2.9 to 3.1 and they are not experiencing these issues.

Its not that they are incocnsitant, its that they are sending out bad ones, thats 2 different things.

The one I have been enjoying quite a bit on my 510 PT was in a box marked 2.4-2.6ohm, unfortunately, my 510 batt died, I should be getting a replacement soon to test if it behaves the same. Based on how my atties and regular cartos behave I expect it to.

The 3 I have had severe problems with on my KR808 battery, came in a box marked 3.0-3.2ohm, which is what I ordered. Are you implying that they are deliberately sending out mislabeled boxes, to get rid of the lower ohm ce-2s that people are unlikely to buy?

 

[tornado9015]

Finally decided to just open a second box of the 808s and see what happens, and WOW what an opposite result, sort of. The first carto out of this box had an exact opposite problem, the vapor was too thick and moist, and because I tried it with a strong flavor (atomic cinnacide) it coated my mouth with a flavor far too strong to be bearable. I can see this problem being drastically lessened with a weaker flavor, and I could imagine that some people may actually enjoy this, I do not believe I am one of them.

The more I progress and the more I read of badkolos posts, the more I am under the impression that the original box I opened was mislabeled as a higher resistance than it actually was, I will try to find my multimeter, and see if I can't test that theory.

So far I stick with my original conclusion, though for a different reason. I believe that the company is not reliable, and that the cartos you order, cannot be trusted to be the labeled resistance, and as such, will not be a reliable and safe bet.

I will continue to update this thread as I learn and experience more. Just in case anybody still believes it, I do not want these to be bad. I ordered a LOT of them, and I would love nothing more than for these cartos to be perfect, and the only method of holding liquid that I use. So far they are not, and I am sharing my experience so that others may learn from it, and perhaps make a more well informed decision.

 

[cozzicon]

Finally decided to just open a second box of the 808s and see what happens, and WOW what an opposite result, sort of. The first carto out of this box had an exact opposite problem, the vapor was too think and moist, and because I tried it with a strong flavor (atomic cinnacide) it coated my mouth with a flavor far too strong to be bearable. I can see this problem being drastically lessened with a weaker flavor, and I could imagine that some people may actually enjoy this, I do not believe I am one of them.

The more I progress and the more I read of badkolos posts, the more I am under the impression that the original box I opened was mislabeled as a higher resistance than it actually was, I will try to find my multimeter, and see if I can't test that theory.

So far I stick with my original conclusion, though for a different reason. I believe that the company is not reliable, and that the cartos you order, cannot be trusted to be the labeled resistance, and as such, will not be a reliable and safe bet.

I will continue to update this thread as I learn and experience more. Just in case anybody still believes it, I do not want these to be bad. I ordered a LOT of them, and I would love nothing more than for these cartos to be perfect, and the only method of holding liquid that I use. So far they are not, and I am sharing my experience so that others may learn from it, and perhaps make a more well informed decision.

It's a shame to read this. I have been having about the same experience. However, I have not gotten the higher resistance one's- which are what I need.

The holy grail of 2.0 ml capacity on a carto that can be reused seems to be a near miss at this point. The Joyetech cartos are fine, but do not have the life expectancy.

I'm giving these one more round before I give up.

 

[Turbo]

I've been using these since r2 and have liked them all on some level. So far the r4's I've tested have worked great (some are more mellow than I'd like but they're probably closer to 3.1/3.2 ohms). Everyone's devices and sweet spots are different, that's why a variable voltage device would be optimal, not just w/ these but all cartos/attys have variances.

With that being said the road has been long paved w/ QC issues. Some experiences can be chalked up to wrong ohms for the device, etc. as 'bad' pointed out while others are due to bad QC. Even w/ that, I have not used a filler carto in lord knows how long.

 

[Stoked!]

I am completely converted to E2 R3 & R4 with PTB mods and cut wicks!!!

 

[zoiDman]

I will say this about E2 cartos.

When they are good, they are very good. But when they are Bad, They Are Very Bad. I don’t think the word quality control can even be used in the same sentence with RS/MiT.

But what is maddening is that RS started to send out R3.? and Bastomizers when they were supposed to be shipping R4’s. So when a member posts that he/she just got some R4’s and they are Great, Or they Suck, you have to wonder what revision they actually have in their PV?

Until RS starts consistently sending out R4’s and all the old stock is sold by retailers, I’m not sure how much can be gleaned about how good, or how bad these R4’s really are.

BTW _ If you have tried the R4’s and like them. Great. Just don’t be too surprised if they are actually R3.5’s and then next box you buy tastes like garbage. Or visa-versa.

 

[Stutzy]

Man i hate seeing stuff like this... I was going to order some of these next week but im still really on the fence. One thing I will say is that in the last 3 months of ecig use I have ran into alot of the same issues with reg 510 atties as well, as far as inconsistent life and performance. It's all a crap shoot it seems. I would cheerfully pay twice as much as I have for a product that consistently lasted and worked well.

 

[Automaton]

Man i hate seeing stuff like this... I was going to order some of these next week but im still really on the fence. One thing I will say is that in the last 3 months of ecig use I have ran into alot of the same issues with reg 510 atties as well, as far as inconsistent life and performance. It's all a crap shoot it seems. I would cheerfully pay twice as much as I have for a product that consistently lasted and worked well.

Same here. I was so impressed with the R3's... but I just HAPPENED to get good ones. Some of the others, from the same batch, weren't.

When they're good, they're really excellent. But it's such a crap shoot. Even more than normal atties/cartos. And normal atties/cartos are inconsistent enough as it is.

There's really nothing on the market that's truly consistent. The CE2's are some of the best performers, but the most inconsistent of all. It's frustrating.

 

[Poppa D]

I'm with you on this. These e2 catos are more reliable than any atomizer I've used in 2 months. But they aren't consistent for some reason and thats frustrating. I'm getting tired of playing craps with all of it, I cant wait to have a good consistent vaporizer some time soon.

Same here. I was so impressed with the R3's... but I just HAPPENED to get good ones. Some of the others, from the same batch, weren't.

When they're good, they're really excellent. But it's such a crap shoot. Even more than normal atties/cartos. And normal atties/cartos are inconsistent enough as it is.

There's really nothing on the market that's truly consistent. The CE2's are some of the best performers, but the most inconsistent of all. It's frustrating.

 

[hairball]

I have a question. Why do the E2's XL have an expiration date on them? Mine are empty with the date on them. I can't figure this out.

 

[badkolo]

the exp date is for the juice , has nothing to do with when the E2 was made.

 

[librarising]

Microcig's quality control is awful. You would think that a company that worked so closely to assure a quality product would take better care about what leaves their factory.

I first had the r3.5s, 2.5ohms, and the first 2 out of the box were awful. Burning up. The third was a charm and I've been vaping with it for the last 2 weeks. The fourth I did the PTB method and it worked well too but I love the one I've been using.

The R4s 510xls I received were fine at first but then tasted dry and acrid half way through. I opened one up and the wick was too short. add to that, they're 2.5 ohms and I'm using it on my Riva. I still have 3 sitting in the box.

I am in a holding pattern until the 3.0 ohms become available. I am keeping fingers and toes crossed that they'll work and that I won't have to trash 3 in order to get 1 good one.

 

[zoiDman]

I have a question. Why do the E2's XL have an expiration date on them? Mine are empty with the date on them. I can't figure this out.

This is another example of the crazy thinking RS/MiT uses in marketing their products. Why are they putting manufacturing and expiration dates on blank cartos if it has nothing to do with the cartos?

If I am a retailer and need to know what revision level part of my E2 carto inventory is, wouldn’t it be nice to look on the side of the box and reference the manufacturing date? Or even the revision level?

This isn’t rocket science but then again, no one said RS/MiT were rocket scientists.

 

[librarising]

This is another example of the crazy thinking RS/MiT uses in marketing their products. Why are they putting manufacturing and expiration dates on blank cartos if it has nothing to do with the cartos?

If I am a retailer and need to know what revision level part of my E2 carto inventory is, wouldn’t it be nice to look on the side of the box and reference the manufacturing date? Or even the revision level?

This isn’t rocket science but then again, no one said RS/MiT were rocket scientists.

They probably don't want to have to print up new boxes until they have to. Not that it's at all right, but that would be my explanation.

 

[zoiDman]

They probably don't want to have to print up new boxes until they have to. Not that it's at all right, but that would be my explanation.

It's not even that the box is printed. It's just a sticker on the side of the box. Jeeze. Just put a new sticker on the box to tell someone what is inside. Hello? But this system breaks down when they don't even know what inside the box. Or they don't care what they send you. I think that they just sell you what they have in stock and call it what you want to hear.

I can't get to mad at retailers selling R3.? as R4's. Retailers have be flim-flammed just as bad as we have when it comes to what revision carto is in what box.

That is why I would suggest to anyone who has never tried these cartos to wait for 2 or 3 months before trying them. Hopefully be then all the old revisions will be out of the loop and what you should recieve should be R4's

 

[tornado9015]

Just a quick update, that second box of 808 cartos that I opened, I apologize for complaining about that one, I believe my battery was simply running low, the cartos in that box, I have tried 3 of them so far, behave as they should, and are excellent. That makes one good box of 510 cartos, 1 good box of 808 cartos, and 1 terrible box of 808s.

My experience is getting more positive as time goes on, but so far 1 in 3 being terrible is not a good ratio. I will keep going and of course keep you all updated, if I just had some terrible luck with 1 box that would make me happy. I stick to my initial conclusion for now, but I am having a more positive experience than I was when I first started.

 

[badkolo]

yeah i just had a long discussion with a member about the QC, its simply horrible, but the main issue is that they are sending a few good with many bad in everyones order, as if they are dumping the bad ones too.

Besides the QC issue i think they have a good line and then they have all the bad ones sitting thier as well and they mix and mach, thats not good at all. for others they are sending out all bad ones while others got good ones. so basicly the end user suffers plus the vendors cause you dont know what pack has how many good and how many bad.

I say this becuase thier vgo's come with e2r4's and they are all proper, not one bad one. so that tells me they know what they are doing and still persist in sendning out the junk ones.

 

[roygodbold]

I am happy to have found that cleaning these things does wonders! I know there is not supposed to be any 'primer' but I soaked some for around 5 minutes in
isopropyl alcohol and then rinsed well in warm water. Dried overnight and these things are totally doable! It was probably mentioned in the monster thread
and I missed it.

 

[Turbo]

I am happy to have found that cleaning these things does wonders! I know there is not supposed to be any 'primer' but I soaked some for around 5 minutes in
isopropyl alcohol and then rinsed well in warm water. Dried overnight and these things are totally doable! It was probably mentioned in the monster thread
and I missed it.

Try Vodka/PGA next time, 'iso' is probably not safe even though it does evaporate..