CE2 leaks and bubbles....

[mom2matoskah]

I ordered my first clearomizers through My Vapor Store: 510 Ultimate CE2 Clearomizer XL

I got them yesterday and immediately loved them! The vapor is superior to the carts I was using, and I like the overall style and draw. I DID NOT mod my clearo, but noticed that if I didn't leave it standing up, it would leak into the top section between the o-ring and flat ring. OK, I set up some narrow cups in my most common areas of the house, so there is always a convenient spot to stand it up, no matter where I am. Even so, I have been noticing some of my juice leaking into that space at the top of the clearo and have cleaned it up a few times today already. What is really getting me is the liquid getting into the space at the center of the clearo, so that when I take a pull on it, the liquid bubbles in the middle and sometimes will "pop", with a little puff of smoke like a mini-backfire. I have been unscrewing and blowing it out about every 2 hours or so throughout the day, getting a significant amount of juice on the paper towel when I blow through the bottom and the juice level in the tank is dropping a lot faster than I feel that I am vaping it... Finally, I noticed my battery (an auto 510 from a Blu starter kit) activating on its own or not deactivating when I am done. When I unscrew the clearo, there is juice on the top of the battery. Is this normal, what is going on and what am I not doing right here? I really like the clearo thus far, but am anxious to get these issues resolved so I can really sit back and enjoy a good vape!

Thanks for your suggestions!!

 

[mom2matoskah]

I decided to get a new one out of the pack and give it a try with a different juice. The juice I was using in the leaky clearo was JC French Vanilla, which is pretty dark and sweet. I am trying a new carto with JC Domestic, it is another dark juice but isn't sweet, trying to see if the clearo was bad out of the box or maybe the vanilla juice messed it up, I read that dark and sweet juices can destroy a clearo.

I took the first clearo and capped it with an old cartomizer removable rubber tip. This morning, I checked and there is a copious amount of juice in the rubber tip, not wanting to use it again until someone lets me know if it is safe; I don't want to destroy my battery with leaking juice...

 

[blueeyeddevil]

juice leaking is bad a drop or isnt that bad my suggestion is make sure you put both rubber parts in the top keep you tip in and use it take i off when your not also if you use it on a manual t cant get into the battery as easily i have never used that brand and i am a newb still but my clearos always gurgle if i lay them down also if its in the tip are you storing it upside down?
one more thing make sure the rubber cap for the ceramic make sure the noches are on top of the wick

 

[blueeyeddevil]

oh i read over your post make sure the top ring is pushed against the other rubber there shouldnt be aby space between the two i would say thats why your getting leaking if you have space

 

[mom2matoskah]

OK, so I fill the carto, then push the oring all the way down, then the flat stopper all the way down, and use the drip tip on the top? Until now, I have been pushing the o-ring all the way down and just popping the flat stopper back onto the top, the way it was when I opened the package.

 

[blueeyeddevil]

not the flat stopper there should be a rubber cup where you fill it correct ?
ok so fill it then there should be an o ring ?
push it complety down against the other rubber?
put your drip tip on also it helps to blow it out alittle before sticking it on the battery
mine always have a little in the bottom see when it gurgles it
is going down the middle

 

[ChrispyCritter]

Usually this is condensation of the vaped juice..it happens in all cartomizers/atomizers but with poly-filled ones I think a lot of them don't use o-rings anymore..the newer style o-ring with the grove usually holds the juice from going down the coil tube..I usually either suck this up before filling and reuse it or take a piece of paper towel and blot it up.

Also you can use CE2's without the o-ring and it will drain back down the filling holes as I do this with tanks sometimes depending on the juice but then you really need to keep them upright. Some juices seem to build up a little more than others..if that area is getting completely filled up then there might be a leak I only see just a bit all the way around the grooved o-ring after vaping a full one.

Edit: BTW it is a good idea to not lay them flat but you don't have to tip them up all the way like you do..when they are flat the wick/coil can leak a little..I usually just lean my 510 auto batteries so they are elevated just a little..in part I do this with my autos so the juice that builds up can't drain down the hole...

 

[mom2matoskah]

Maybe this will help to clear up any questions that my noobie self doesn't know to answer ahead of time (click on the picture for a larger view and readable text)

 

[mom2matoskah]

Thanks Chrispy! You answered a lot of my questions! You too, blueeyed!

The blu cartomizers that I used to use did have some clear rubber o-rings near the mouthpeice, and a small tube in the center surrounded by polyfill layers between the tube and wall of the cart. I found that refilling those carts only lasted me a few hours in some instances, and the taste wasn't the best in the world... I think I was tasting the polyfill!

So, when there is some condensation on top of the battery, is it normal for this to happen after only a couple of puffs, and sometimes when I haven't vaped on it for a while? For example, I left a partially filled clearo sitting upright in a storage jar (just like the one in the pictures above) with a rubber tip on the bottom that I got from a used cartomizer from blu. I left it there from about 8:30pm last night until around 9am this morning. When I took off the rubber tip, there was a small pool of juice in there, but I blew the excess juice out of it before I set it down last night. Any ideas or wisdom on this? Is that clearo bad or just a normal thing with clearomizers?

 

[ChrispyCritter]

Maybe this will help to clear up any questions that my noobie self doesn't know to answer ahead of time (click on the picture for a larger view and readable text)

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I wouldn't store it so upright on an auto battery..after filling either suck up any excess juice left over or blot it up before replacing the o-ring..looks like you have the o-ring and tip in right Sometimes you're going to find some juice on the connector but after you get the hang of them it usually isn't much.

No matter the cartomizer/atomizer it is always good to wipe out the battery connector before charging or any time you switch flavors. I have been using CE2's almost exclusively since last summer I haven't found anything that beats them..the are very long lasting too when you learn how to take them apart, clean and burn off the coil..I still have CE2's that work since last summer..a search of CE2's on these forums, Google or YouTube will bring up lots of info

 

[ChrispyCritter]

Thanks Chrispy! You answered a lot of my questions! You too, blueeyed!

...So, when there is some condensation on top of the battery, is it normal for this to happen after only a couple of puffs, and sometimes when I haven't vaped on it for a while? For example, I left a partially filled clearo sitting upright in a storage jar (just like the one in the pictures above) with a rubber tip on the bottom that I got from a used cartomizer from blu. I left it there from about 8:30pm last night until around 9am this morning. When I took off the rubber tip, there was a small pool of juice in there, but I blew the excess juice out of it before I set it down last night. Any ideas or wisdom on this? Is that clearo bad or just a normal thing with clearomizers?

No that must be it wicking in there or maybe there is some pressure in the tube..you could try poking both fill holes out with the filling tip in case one is blocked. With condensation I don't notice it that much unless I've vaped maybe 1/3 or more of a full one.

Sometimes you do get ones that do leak a little but if it's a couple or more in a pack there probably would be something else going on. I find sometimes when I have one that does what you're describing pulling them apart or prying the cup out and putting it back in can fix it.

 

[mom2matoskah]

the are very long lasting too when you learn how to take them apart, clean and burn off the coil..I still have CE2's that work since last summer..a search of CE2's on these forums, Google or YouTube will bring up lots of info

Thanks again, Chrispy! My main deciding factors in choosing CE2's was their simplicity, longevity and total lack of polyfill! The most I had heard of a CE2 lasting was 3 months and even then, at $12 for a pack of 5 with shipping, it sounded super economical. I am going to have to do some more research on keeping them nice and clean, hopefully I will have the same longevity as you have!

 

[ChrispyCritter]

Even if you don't get them to last that long at like $2 apiece if they last a couple months they are a great deal..not all of them will either but most of the ones I had that failed were my fault..a couple I melted the coil at 1st dry burning them..sometimes the wires will come loose when you pull them apart.

Also the rubber becomes stained with some juices (at least the white rubber ones did) I'm sure after awhile the black ones would deteriorate a little. Also these can be rebuilt easily if you are even a little handy with a solder iron..but for the price it's probably not worth the hassle for most people..one thing to know is if you start pulling them apart you probably will break a couple or so before you get the hang of it and after you do you will rarely break one

 

[blueeyeddevil]

im not sure how this would work but i think it would if you are worried of it getting in the battery i think you could get a drip shield and pit on it i know its for atomizers but could work , you would have to ask more expericened persn than me though

 

[seminolewind]

I've had 5 so far and not one has leaked. Leaking thru the battery end-have you tried a different brand battery? Do you screw it in too tight ?

Out the vaping end-I stand it up if I'm not going to use it for a bit, if I am using it, I lay it on it's side. But I only put in 1-1.5 ml in there at a time, so when I lay it down it doesn't reach the hole, but the wick still wicks.

 

[bsidb]

It sounds like your ceramic cup has seperated from the air tube and is sitting high allowing juice to run out, they come apart and if you dont push the first silicone cap,with the notches, all the way down first, to join the cup and tube, then slowly raise the cap with notches hooking around the the outside from inside the hole,for more flow , then the flat silicone washer just till it moves the cap , they should and lay flat fine, there wont be condensation without a mouthpiece

 

[DeweyCox]

dont use ce2s?

 

[bsidb]

Its all i use.. the ultimate ce2

 

[DeweyCox]

Ultimate ce2s are really good. I just pull out all three rubber pieces and only use the soft mouthpiece in ridge side down on the cup. I use them once in a while and I'm always impressed with the flavor after not using them for awhile. I also use 808 ce2 on my volt kit and they work very good.

 

[mom2matoskah]

Well, I have been using these clearomizers for a little over a week now. Here's what I have experienced thus far:

The first one leaked like crazy right out of the box, nothing has been able to get it to stop leaking. It will vape but it will get juice everywhere within a few hours.

The last one out of the box is working fine thus far with the mod suggested on the page I ordered them from, fluffing the wick. Granted, I started it up this morning...

The other three out of the box worked fine, but I did have a LOT of condensation and more leaking than I would have liked to have seen. Every few hours, I had to pop the mouthpeice off and wipe it out with a paper towel, then mop up juice from the top of the rubber seal or it would leak down onto the battery.. speaking of, I also had to wipe off the battery top about once an hour. Being stuck using an automatic battery until I can afford to upgrade, I noticed that when I needed to clean the top of the battery, it would activate itself as a yell out to me for a cleaning. I am planning to get a manual battery soon but until then, I am stuck with what I have now. The juice I had to use was a leftover batch from JC (Johnson Creek), their French Vanilla which is very sweet and very dark. The coils on these three clearomizers are so gunked up that even a coke bath didn't help and I can't even get them to warm up, much less burn (especially difficult to try without a manual battery anyway). I have just dried them from their coke bath and distilled water rinse and set them aside, will try a dry burn to clean them once I get a manual battery to see if I can save them.

From what I have read, these are some pretty common problems with the CE2 XL Clearomizers. I was able to order some more juice and am now using a 50/50 PG/VG mix with cherry and orange flavors (yummy!), giving me a good throat hit, good vapor and good flavor combination in my last clearo. The juice blend is a TON lighter and not very sweet at all, so I am hoping my coil life will be better with this one.

Since I am quickly becoming unhappy with the condenation issues, getting juice in my mouth from condensation at least a few times a day, and always wiping up juice off the top of my battery, I am thinking of trying another route entirely.

GotVapes VISION Stone 3. It's a newer design tank that I have read some good reviews on, no leaking and fantastic vapor production. I also like that I can order a new interior piece if I need to without trashing the whole tank. When I have some more money to play around with, I will be getting myself a good manual battery setup and maybe play around with some other juices but for now, I have to work on a tight budget. Does anyone out there have any suggestions or pointers?