Ceramic, SS Mesh and SS Cable Vertical wicking test

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Hi all ... a wicking puzzlement . I took 3 different wicks wrapped with a strip of rolling paper up top and put them in some dark juice just to observe vertical wicking to where a coil would be. My result showed near tie with the mesh and ceramic wicks with the cable trailing behind. In real use I do not like the ceramic as much as SS cable because contrary to the test result, it seems to take more tilt to keep it wet. Even compared to rolled mesh the cable just seems to require the least effort for continuous flavor. My result showed that the SS cable obviously colored the paper slower. Can heat transfer somehow work in favor of the cable's wicking speed or volume? I typically rotate devices due to heat or dryness and seldom do I ever experience a dry hit with cable wicks. Of at least 5 different genesis wick materials in service right now (similar resistances) I usually go to ones with the cable for chain vapes. Another observation is that my cable wicked tanks get run lower on juice before I feel the need to refill... all this doesn't seem to follow the logic I get from my test observation. PC243095.jpgPC243101.jpgPC243107.jpgWhat logic explains this?
 

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Hi all ... a wicking puzzlement . I took 3 different wicks wrapped with a strip of rolling paper up top and put them in some dark juice just to observe vertical wicking to where a coil would be. My result showed near tie with the mesh and ceramic wicks with the cable trailing behind. In real use I do not like the ceramic as much as SS cable because contrary to the test result, it seems to take more tilt to keep it wet. Even compared to rolled mesh the cable just seems to require the least effort for continuous flavor. My result showed that the SS cable obviously colored the paper slower. Can heat transfer somehow work in favor of the cable's wicking speed or volume? I typically rotate devices due to heat or dryness and seldom do I ever experience a dry hit with cable wicks. Of at least 5 different genesis wick materials in service right now (similar resistances) I usually go to ones with the cable for chain vapes. Another observation is that my cable wicked tanks get run lower on juice before I feel the need to refill... all this doesn't seem to follow the logic I get from my test observation.View attachment 287635View attachment 287636View attachment 287637What logic explains this?

I have vaped all 3 wicks and my favorite hands down is the ceramic. I have had no issues with the speed in which ceramic wicks and have found it to keep up with resistances to .6Ω. I think the main issue's most have with the ceramic is not having a tight enough coil. when the coil isn't tight on ceramic it just doesn't perform. I think heat may cause some differences in wicking that you don't get with the testing. ceramic retains heat a lot more then mesh, replenishing the ceramic once it is hot can inhibit wicking.
 

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and are those wicks burned correctly...they look a little to shiny to have been pre-burned to put the oxidation on the wick to prevent shorts, i usually hold the entire thing in the flame of the stove burner... my rolled stainless wick is jet black
Only need a bit of oxidation where the coil goes. That mesh wick was a cleaned used one and the wire was unused so yes it is shiny all the way up but typically the bottom of my wicks are shiny. I've not found any benefit to torching the whole thing.
Wish you threw a cotton wick in your test for us retired mesh wickers.
Bone dry wick wick speed is very different from wet wick wick speed. Did I say that right.
I've at least 3 cotton wicks in service right now but I'm still trying to figure out how to get one to keep up with a real vape session in a genny. The only way I've figured out how to keep from tasting that horrid burn is dripping juice into a dripper. Maybe one day I'll find a particular cotton all rave about ... but for now it hasn't worked continuously for me in a genesis build. Works great for me with vape-pause-vape dance but has yet to let me sit down and run a battery dry. Must be something I don't do right with cotton in those and maybe I'll figure it out someday?
 

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Hi all ... a wicking puzzlement . I took 3 different wicks wrapped with a strip of rolling paper up top and put them in some dark juice just to observe vertical wicking to where a coil would be. My result showed near tie with the mesh and ceramic wicks with the cable trailing behind. In real use I do not like the ceramic as much as SS cable because contrary to the test result, it seems to take more tilt to keep it wet. Even compared to rolled mesh the cable just seems to require the least effort for continuous flavor. My result showed that the SS cable obviously colored the paper slower. Can heat transfer somehow work in favor of the cable's wicking speed or volume? I typically rotate devices due to heat or dryness and seldom do I ever experience a dry hit with cable wicks. Of at least 5 different genesis wick materials in service right now (similar resistances) I usually go to ones with the cable for chain vapes. Another observation is that my cable wicked tanks get run lower on juice before I feel the need to refill... all this doesn't seem to follow the logic I get from my test observation.View attachment 287635View attachment 287636View attachment 287637What logic explains this?

Heat transfer is exactly the thing, but it does not favor the cable's wicking speed, it just means the wick becomes part of the available evaporating surface.

In the case of the ceramic, the liquid has to wick to the surface of the ceramic and get into contact with the hot metal coil in order to evaporate.

In the case of the cable, whereever the cable is hot enough, any available eliquid there will evaporate,
 

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... I think heat may cause some differences in wicking that you don't get with the testing. ceramic retains heat a lot more then mesh, replenishing the ceramic once it is hot can inhibit wicking.
That does make sense... since I like "some" ceramic wicks until I don't and of course then it's warm when it goes dry so I swap it for something else. For me, ceramic hasn't been able to keep up without full tilt bypass.
 

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I've at least 3 cotton wicks in service right now but I'm still trying to figure out how to get one to keep up with a real vape session in a genny. The only way I've figured out how to keep from tasting that horrid burn is dripping juice into a dripper. Maybe one day I'll find a particular cotton all rave about ... but for now it hasn't worked continuously for me in a genesis build. Works great for me with vape-pause-vape dance but has yet to let me sit down and run a battery dry. Must be something I don't do right with cotton in those and maybe I'll figure it out someday?

Ignore my first dual coil build; although it wasn't half bad.
Drilled three 3/16" deck holes.
Dual cotton wicks.
Chain vape blowing clouds no problem.
Genny tilt works quick.
50% to 90% VG chain vape no problem.
Not one dry hit.
More user friendly cloud maker that trident quad.
 

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