Change my mind. (I'm thrilled with my vape.)
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Identify vaping. Tsk tsk. 
Hey Kat ... it's been a while again, but always love to read your posts here
The only time I suggest changes to the way someone vapes is if they are unsatisfied with their vape.
But, since you asked ... and we all know this is all in totally good fun ...
Don't change your vape.
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Upside down even?
Upside down is a bit tricky DPL ... I use an RTA and I let the wicks saturate while right side up between drags. Drippers tend to leak into my mouth a bit so that's out.
Now, zero gravity vaping is really tricky. I find I have to spin the mod a bit between drags to get the juice to the bottom of the atty so the wicks get fed. It's a real pain, and forget about chain vaping!
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that when the Tootle Puffer thread started, the definition was "You don't exceed 10 (or maybe 12) watts." Then at some point, it got bumped to 15 watts. Now it's 20 watts?
I doubt you're wrong at all, Sir Ross'ms. When it all started (the silliness of the TPuffs), it was all over the place, cuz it wasn't even a THING! That Aspire blog I posted was just part of the fun and games of the entire idea, and part of the outrageousness of it all. A post on the actual Aspire blog? How hilarious!
I have NO idea who even made those "decisions". There is zero right or wrong - none nada zilch zip niente!
Hey Kat ... it's been a while again, but always love to read your posts here
The only time I suggest changes to the way someone vapes is if they are unsatisfied with their vape.
But, since you asked ... and we all know this is all in totally good fun ...
Don't change your vape.
Beep Beep
And I love seeing you here, too, kiddo. <wubz>
In the real world, I agree Letitia. On ECF though, I think it's losing importance but still fairly prevalent.
I do feel we're moving in the right direction, just wish it would happen faster
The good thing though is a lot of our vape hardware works pretty well now and some is simply outstanding. I switched in 2012 back when pretty much everything needed at least some tweaking just to get it to vape, never mind give you a good vape.
I was talking to a customer at work today about vaping. He had a heart attack last year, had got down to 4 cigs a day from a PAD and vaped the rest of the time, and then his Dad passed and the stress got him back to full time smoking this year. He has a good understanding of mods, atties and nic strength and didn't have any hardware issues. I told him my story and just encouraged him to try vaping again since it was working for him the first time and not to let the setback discourage him. He didn't need any technical help which very likely would have been the case a couple of years ago.
An abundance of choice is a two edged sword. It can become daunting to wade through all the options, but if there are few it can be hard to find something that works. I prefer what we have now, give people the choice and let them figure it out for themselves. This way they have good options they can pursue if they are serious about it
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In an ideal world I would agree with you. Fact is the majority that want to try vaping are giving up a carton of cigs to buy a kit and juice. That on top of vape shops becoming so commercial and not interested in taking the time to help and/or teach a newb how to vape keep many from following thru and trying it out. Where I live many cannot buy a new setup if the first isn't working for them. They also don't have credit cards or bank accounts and are at the mercy of shops if they don't have any friends who vape to help them. Too many choices of something you don't understand to begin with is overwhelming.In the real world, I agree Letitia. On ECF though, I think it's losing importance but still fairly prevalent.
I do feel we're moving in the right direction, just wish it would happen faster
The good thing though is a lot of our vape hardware works pretty well now and some is simply outstanding. I switched in 2012 back when pretty much everything needed at least some tweaking just to get it to vape, never mind give you a good vape.
I was talking to a customer at work today about vaping. He had a heart attack last year, had got down to 4 cigs a day from a PAD and vaped the rest of the time, and then his Dad passed and the stress got him back to full time smoking this year. He has a good understanding of mods, atties and nic strength and didn't have any hardware issues. I told him my story and just encouraged him to try vaping again since it was working for him the first time and not to let the setback discourage him. He didn't need any technical help which very likely would have been the case a couple of years ago.
An abundance of choice is a two edged sword. It can become daunting to wade through all the options, but if there are few it can be hard to find something that works. I prefer what we have now, give people the choice and let them figure it out for themselves. This way they have good options they can pursue if they are serious about it
Can't speak for all of 'em, but our local B&M is great. The manager and hus staff greet everyone, and start with newbs by asking hiw much they smoke... Narrowing down the selection based on their wants and needs, not their budget (which is also considered). The manager once told me that they're NOT a vape shop. They're a customer service shop that happens to sell vape gear and juice. The guy is also quite knowledgeable on just about every devuce including mechs which they still carry a faur selection of...
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We used to have some good ones around here as well; now there is only one I know of like that and it's a fair drive away. None of them carry diy supplies and very few carry gear good for beginners. All they push is Smok and Voopoo. I quit trying to support the local shops months ago. When I'm over his way I do buy a spool of wire or wick from the one good shop.
But, we need some kind of labels to help clarify things.
The whole thing that got the Tootle Puffer movement started was the fact that some devices won't fire any lower than the remaining battery voltage, in spite of the fact that they claim to go down to 7 watts or whatever.
That's really important to someone like me, who vapes mostly around 7 watts. Just like it's also important for me to have a device that can be adjusted by smaller units than whole watts because a whole watt is a huge jump in proportion to 7 watts.
Just like the difference between MTL and DL. By us having labels, it helps to find things that will work for me (or my brother or sister). Luckily I'm slow to buy the latest and greatest. Otherwise I would have had to PIF a lot more stuff than I have.
If I had started vaping now instead of years ago, . . . . With all the high wattage, DL stuff masquerading as beginner kits, I likely would have given up before I started. We need to have the terminology to help people find what THEY need.
I do agree to a point. The problem is that the terminology is expanding to include every style and it is quite confusing for newbs and ourselves. With the advances in gear and all the avenues it opens up for tweaking the vocabulary to define style of vaping is becoming obsolete and not useful to the beginners. This my main concern. For experienced vapers we know what questions to ask, not so much a new vaper that comes here because they are overwhelmed by choices and conflicting information.
Terminology, it can help or confuse. It's always been that way. One reason I don't talk much or answer too many questions. It's so hard to find a common terminolgy. And, I'm afraid, I'm not very good at it.
This is what I was trying to get at on other threads. It isn't so much that the terms are wrong, but the way they have come to be used is.
If you were to survey manufacturer/vendor literature, as a newbie, you would come to the conclusion that there are 2 types of vaper, Sub-Ohm and MTL.
This is a little like classifying all cars as Chevys and Diesel.
Sub-Ohm should never be a verb!( Nor a noun. )
"Do you Sub-Ohm?" is a completely nonsensical question. Meaningless.
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And again I will mention vaping is an international fact. There is not going to be a smooth transition to a standard terminology. You don't fight it you learn to be flexible and find common ground.
My Em needs a stroll. Good night all.
My Em needs a stroll. Good night all.
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