So, several months ago, I started using a Blu Cig. I tried using it at work, and someone complained. After a long meeting about my " smoking in the work place", I was told that my e-cigarette was considered smoking, and that I could only use it in smoking areas. Fast forward....I recently moved up to the unit in my profile pic. A Buzz Pro II ECF with1A1 tank. The other day, my supervisor saw me vaping with it in a smoking area. He looked at my BP, and says "what the hell is THAT thing?" I explain that it's a personal vaporizer, and go into detail about how it works. After a few minutes of thought ( he's a smoker), he asks where he can get one, and if it " works". I explain about notcigs.com, and suggest that he try it. He then says, "Well, you don't have to use that in a smoking area. That's not the same as that electric cigarette you had before. Just stay outside with it, and keep it discreet." I thanked him, and quietly enjoyed my moment of small victory, while vaping some Copper Creek House Blend.
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Yep. Never underestimate the power of a word. That's why I hate it when people even use the word e-cigarette around people who are uninformed. If you had told your boss that it was an electronic cigarette, he probably would have had a different response.
People have ridiculed me for discouraging the term e-cigarette and preaching the power of words. These are the same people who supported the inheritance tax but despise the death tax.
People have ridiculed me for discouraging the term e-cigarette and preaching the power of words. These are the same people who supported the inheritance tax but despise the death tax.
I asked my boss if I could use my electronic cigarette at my desk. She said no "cigarettes" of any kind can be used inside the office. I wish i had called it a nicotine inhaler.
The guard/idiot ....... at the Social Security office saw me vaping on my Provari (looks nothing like a cigarette) and told me I couldn't use it in 'his' lobby because it 'simulated' smoking.
"Simulated" smoking. LOL!! What a tool.
Should have squatted down and asked him what you were simulating.
I propose that we call our PVs "Atomizers". Yes, I know that an atomizer is a part. But Joe Lunchbucket doesn't know that, so he won't be confused. Calling it an electronic cigarette is terrible. Calling it a vaporizer evokes drug paraphernalia. Calling it "my medical device" works to blow people off, but it has it's own drawbacks.
"Atomizer" has no such bad connotations, it's simple and quick and it's roughly accurate. "Do you mind if I use my atomizer in here?". "Can I use my atomizer at my desk?". "It's my atomizer, I used it to quit smoking." Nobody makes any assumptions about what it is. They're almost forced to ask, "Your atomizer? What is that?" That's your opportunity.
Plus "atomizing" sounds more refined and educated than "vaping", which sounds slightly slutty.
I'm not smoking OR vaping. I'm atomizing!!
And being an atomizer sounds cooler than being a vaper, which always sounded sort of reptilian to me.
"Atomizer" has no such bad connotations, it's simple and quick and it's roughly accurate. "Do you mind if I use my atomizer in here?". "Can I use my atomizer at my desk?". "It's my atomizer, I used it to quit smoking." Nobody makes any assumptions about what it is. They're almost forced to ask, "Your atomizer? What is that?" That's your opportunity.
Plus "atomizing" sounds more refined and educated than "vaping", which sounds slightly slutty.
I'm not smoking OR vaping. I'm atomizing!!
And being an atomizer sounds cooler than being a vaper, which always sounded sort of reptilian to me.
i'm pretty happy to freely use the terms "vaping" and "vaporizers". it's not really a huge deal to correct that it's not (another type of) vaporizer but a nicotine vaporizer.
more and more often i'm finding people who are more knowledgable about pvs and they use the appropriate terms.
when vaping outside my venue/bar i had a few really excited people asking me if i was vaping, and if what i had was a vaporizer. then we engaged in a pretty good discussion on hardware.
this weekend i also sat across from this kid about my age on the train, who pointed out my rev2 that i keep tucked into a change pocket in my purse. i was trying to focus on my ereader rather than this dude who was trying to subtly catch my attention, and as he left he said "that's a really compact little vaporizer you have."
i dunno. i more often than not find that the negative connotations and receptions follow the terminology.
more and more often i'm finding people who are more knowledgable about pvs and they use the appropriate terms.
when vaping outside my venue/bar i had a few really excited people asking me if i was vaping, and if what i had was a vaporizer. then we engaged in a pretty good discussion on hardware.
this weekend i also sat across from this kid about my age on the train, who pointed out my rev2 that i keep tucked into a change pocket in my purse. i was trying to focus on my ereader rather than this dude who was trying to subtly catch my attention, and as he left he said "that's a really compact little vaporizer you have."
i dunno. i more often than not find that the negative connotations and receptions follow the terminology.
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I agree in a way. But every time I suggest that the term "cigarette" should be avoided, I get a flood of protests from people who, 1) insist that the average guy is savvy enough to draw an immediate association between "vaporizer" and an alternate herb and, 2) live in places where, evidently, their druggies are extremely high class and inclined to use sophisticated high-tech paraphernalia in public.
I prefer the term "vaporizer" myself. But for those who live in places where the other kind of vaporizer is common knowledge (definitely NOT where I live), I suggest that instead of calling it an e-cigarette, "atomizer" might be a viable alternative.
I prefer the term "vaporizer" myself. But for those who live in places where the other kind of vaporizer is common knowledge (definitely NOT where I live), I suggest that instead of calling it an e-cigarette, "atomizer" might be a viable alternative.
i guess that'd depend if you mind being thought of someone who uses (other stuff) for a moment.
there are plenty of (those types) around here, but most use (other items). it is a pretty prestigious thing to cart around (another type of) vaporizer, and those who have mistaken it for such have been impressed or nonchalant. i even had a middle aged customer confuse my pv for (another type of) vaporizer and wanted to know where i got it. people can think what they want to. so far in my experiences within my area no one really cares if i'm smoking (other stuff). i've been involved in some mild activism and event planning in my area to protest prohibition so i really don't mind.
there are plenty of (those types) around here, but most use (other items). it is a pretty prestigious thing to cart around (another type of) vaporizer, and those who have mistaken it for such have been impressed or nonchalant. i even had a middle aged customer confuse my pv for (another type of) vaporizer and wanted to know where i got it. people can think what they want to. so far in my experiences within my area no one really cares if i'm smoking (other stuff). i've been involved in some mild activism and event planning in my area to protest prohibition so i really don't mind.
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i haven't seen that before. i poked around the site and it seems very cool! i like how they add lavendar oil to their juices. if i wasn't so nervous to order juices/hardware from the states i would totally be all over it.
i'm starting to think i need to take a road trip in order to hit all these brick and mortar shops one day.
i'm starting to think i need to take a road trip in order to hit all these brick and mortar shops one day.
Please, be careful with the conversations of "other" vaporizers.
Searches are affected by this and we do not want ECF associated with drugs in any way.
Thank you
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/255864-why-we-dont-allow-drug-talk.html
Searches are affected by this and we do not want ECF associated with drugs in any way.
Thank you
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/255864-why-we-dont-allow-drug-talk.html
I just tell those enquiring minds that it's a portable ultrasonic micron nebulizer for the prevention of asthma attacks. I haven't had one asthmatic episode since I started using it. LOL Shuts 'em up real quick.
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I am totally with you in fact I think we should carry it further and add explanations in our signature and no longer use ecigs but.rather atomizers and pergapd it will gain momentum.
Where I live, when they ask, I say it's a fake cigarette. And that even the smoke is fake. That always works.
I agree... since quitting analogs, I don't really want *any* association with being a "smoker", even though I was one for a full SEVENTEEN years, LOL. I call it my personal vaporizer. If a smoker asks for more details, I sometimes refer to it "like an electronic cigarette" and then launch into how it works. But non-smokers (smoke/smoker-haters...) they just get the PV answer. Until coming to ECF, I never even knew that that the words PV might be associated with any sort of extracurricular activity, LOL.. but I'm a little naive when it comes to that stuff.
I loved someone's answer here when they were asked what they were using. I wish I could remember who it was... but they told their employer that it was their personal vaporizer and it was used to repair their lungs from years of smoking. Who can argue with THAT? I can't see a single negative connotation that could be derived from that description.
I loved someone's answer here when they were asked what they were using. I wish I could remember who it was... but they told their employer that it was their personal vaporizer and it was used to repair their lungs from years of smoking. Who can argue with THAT? I can't see a single negative connotation that could be derived from that description.
Shoulda looked at him confused and said well why can't I simulate smoking while you simulate being a intelligent Cop ?
Nice, everyone. Special kudos to NaturesEncore.
I've been saying it's a fog machine with some flavor and a little nicotine. Try that one out; I think it's a pretty disarming explanation.
I've been saying it's a fog machine with some flavor and a little nicotine. Try that one out; I think it's a pretty disarming explanation.
In some ways I think it's good to say ecig, especially with an eGo, reason being is there are companies selling eGo's for other purposes with the liquids to match that purpose. The less people think a true ecig user is using it for the other purpose, the better! Of course, in places where using an ecig is not always encouraged, I just stealth it. Hold in the vapor long enough and no one will know, and an eGo does sort of resemble a pen. Yup, just chewing on my pen for a bit here. 
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