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Yes, you are right- but for some of the members here.. They treat as if they're better than someone. Not trying to start a war. But you are right.
Oh no, definitely didn't mean my comments as a criticism of you. I'm just trying to encourage you not to be self-conscious about it. vaping is OK.
My grandmother, who has severe COPD and is on constant oxygen, still encouraged me to smoke. Told me I could smoke in her house, told me where to find the ashtrays - on oxygen... 'no smoking' sign on the door... and encouraging me to light up. She smoked for over 60 years, only quit "when the price got too high," and still insists that it wasn't the million Basic 100's that gave it to her.
I love her... but really Grandma?
So the last time I visited, I pulled out my cheapo 808 (which I sanded to plain stainless steel
) and started to heartily puff on it. She looked at me with the funniest expression of curiosity, and said "What in hades are you sucking on over there, some kind of metal pacifier?" 
I told her it was an electronic cigarette, that it produced nicotine vapor without all the tar, etc.
And told her about how much money I had saved already, even having bought kit and supplies.
I tried explaining the technology behind the device, but she thinks of computers as really advanced typewriters...
But, she gave me a clear look of relief and told me "I'm glad you finally quit.. those dang things are too expensive."
I love her... but really Grandma?
So the last time I visited, I pulled out my cheapo 808 (which I sanded to plain stainless steel
) and started to heartily puff on it. She looked at me with the funniest expression of curiosity, and said "What in hades are you sucking on over there, some kind of metal pacifier?" I told her it was an electronic cigarette, that it produced nicotine vapor without all the tar, etc.
And told her about how much money I had saved already, even having bought kit and supplies.
I tried explaining the technology behind the device, but she thinks of computers as really advanced typewriters...
But, she gave me a clear look of relief and told me "I'm glad you finally quit.. those dang things are too expensive."
Interesting since I was turned down by a vaping manager in our Ruby Tuesdays. I guess it's not chain policy then.
Family wise for me, my mom and sister will never try it and still smoke to this day. My dad loves that I switched to vaping and knows how hard of a habit it is to quit the coffin nails since he used to smoke before I was born. I get the fabled "so when are you going to quit that?" from my dad and simply say "never...it's a hobby I love."
Other responses are: you're inhaling battery fumes, OMG it looks like a detinator(silver bullet)I look like I own the bar I venture into since I can vape indoors when everyone else has to go outside. I am still waiting for someone to ask me if it's a time machine
Other responses are: you're inhaling battery fumes, OMG it looks like a detinator(silver bullet)I look like I own the bar I venture into since I can vape indoors when everyone else has to go outside. I am still waiting for someone to ask me if it's a time machine
LOL, Kali.. always good for some laughs. My family is from there and I visit often. Hilarious usually.
I usually vape in the smoking section on campus. Not because I have to, but because smokers might see it and I can introduce them to it.
If anyone starts a ruckus over the vape, then it means it's a good exciting day and I am thankful. Usually so boring around here...
I usually vape in the smoking section on campus. Not because I have to, but because smokers might see it and I can introduce them to it.
If anyone starts a ruckus over the vape, then it means it's a good exciting day and I am thankful. Usually so boring around here...
I can't get over the fact that someone actually vocally said "Beep".
.. Or maybe I read that wrong.
Beep you, you beeping beephole! Who the beep do you think you are?
Just beeping get beeped for beeps sake.
Beeper.
Just beeping get beeped for beeps sake.
Beeper.
More than likely someone using a cigarette looking kit poisoned the water. I asked in a restaurant and the manager actually did vape. I was using a homemade bottom feeding box at the time. He came over and checked it out. He told me that he'd had trouble with a guy vaping what looked like a cigarette at the bar. Customers complained about the guy smoking at the bar. He said it was fine as long as it didn't cause any complaints. It didn't.
The rest of the story is that he ended up sitting down at the table and getting all kinds of info from me. When I left he threw a free dessert in my to go bag. The next day he rode his motorcycle to Madvapes (about 80 miles from here) and bought a bunch of stuff.
I can't stress enough how important it is not to look like you're smoking when you vape in public.
I really soft-pedal it when I'm around other smokers. As huge a life improvement as you or I may consider the e-cigarette, to suggest this sort of life change to a dedicated smoker is a pretty big deal--maybe not quite on the level of trying to convince somebody to marry your sister--but major nonetheless. Don't be disappointed if they don't go along with it. Think of all the people who tried to persuade you to quit smoking, and you didn't.
I agree with that, but I don't think it's just whether the device looks like a cigarette. I think the cause is badly harmed by those who insist on using really heavy VG liquid to show off what massive clouds they can produce (whether the choice is for pleasure, exhibitionism, or persuasive effect). You can tell people all day and night that it's not smoke, but many will still think it's obnoxious.
I agree with that, but I don't think it's just whether the device looks like a cigarette. I think the cause is badly harmed by those who insist on using really heavy VG liquid to show off what massive clouds they can produce (whether the choice is for pleasure, exhibitionism, or persuasive effect). You can tell people all day and night that it's not smoke, but many will still think it's obnoxious.
That hasn't been my experience and I have vaped a lot in public. In restaurants I ask. So far, I've never been turned down. I think it's attitude as much as anything. If you seem furtive and uncomfortable or you intentionally flaunt it, you'll likely encounter problems. If you just do what makes you comfortable and mind your own business, you probably won't. People sense these things. I use a 70/30 mix and I've never varied that for vaping in public nor have I consciously tried to make large plumes or avoid them. Again, I just vape in whatever style I want to at the time. No different than I would sitting around watching TV. The only reaction I've gotten has been curiousity. Many times that's coupled with exclamations about how cool it is.
If anybody presented me w an eGo while trying to persuade me to quit when I was a suicide machine, I would of welcomed them w open arms. No, I did not respond well to " you need to quit", but nobody ever said check this out. Until the first of this year and I jumped all over it and havent looked back since.
The cause is badly harmed by the uninformed. The more people that we properly inform, the more who will vote our way when the time comes. I clicked the like button on Mickeyrat's last post with the exception of the last line that you quoted here. IMO, its all going to look like smoke to the uninformed. Yes, heave VG juices will give a better smoke look, which is why it is that much more important to inform people.
FWIW, I dont use heavy VG juice for appearences. That couldnt be any farther from the truth. When it comes right down to it I really couldn't care less what john q public thinks of me, or what I'm doing. I just happen to feel very strongly about helping anyone who is caught under the iron grip of death sticks, and may want a way out. I wish I found these things 5 yrs ago. Instead of being at 90 days I would be at 5yrs and 90 days.
Not trying to start an argument, just being honest
People telling me that I needed to quit used to get pretty annoying. I've had a few porky people tell me that I need to quit a few times and I just reply with, "You need to work out and eat better." If you're doing something that you know is bad for your body then it's not like you're blind to that fact and someone telling you that it's bad for your body isn't going to make you change.
The Truth ads used to be worse than people telling me that I needed to quit though, they used to make me want a cigarette instead of making me want to quit. They are still pretty annoying. Smokers know that what they are doing isn't good for them, why show all that depressing and nasty crap on every commercial break in just about every tv show.
I don't try to get people to quit or switch to e-cigs because of how much people like that used to annoy me. I do explain how e-cigs work to smokers that are interested in checking them out and give them this website along with a couple vendors that I have used and like.
Once, an Ottoman Prince laughed when he saw me handling my gilded PV: I suppose the sight of this foreign device surprised & amused him. In response to this slight I fielded an army, burnt his kingdom to the ground, and salted all the fields in the region. Have not had a problem since.
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