Changes

[Tivaliman]

Hey guys, wassup?

Second week of recovery from cigarette addiction.

Since I've been a Ecf member, 4 days ago I've learnt a great deal, I tried to stay positive and contribute some "cheers" since I'm new to vaping, I know nothing.
But I think at this moment in my road to recovery, the change is taking its toll. I know I would be facing a major psychological change and being on this forum has helped me balance the change, in favour of quitting smoking and continue to vape.
Nevertheless today, to be honest, since last night, I've been not myself. I've become more unpredictable in my thoughts or at least, how I'm managing the changes. I feel more vulnerable than ever! It's like I've unscrewed my head and removed it completely and I'm stuck in limbo, uncertain about what new head of reason I'll be getting as a replacement.
Yeah, I'm at a low point, vulnerable, unpredictable and I feel I'm being inappropriate too!
Sorry guys, if I'm bringing anyone down. I don't mean to.
I've never been in this place...
So lonely

 

[Susan~S]

Sorry you are feeling so vulnerable and at a low point. Give yourself some time to get used to all the changes your body is going through.

A list of symptoms when quitting tobacco and changing to an ecigarette

You are not alone. We are all here for you and are routing for you. You're a valuable member of this community, welcoming new members and sharing what you know.

 

[Leo Bak]

Hi and welcome. This all sound familiar, don't give up! Make sure the nic level of your juice is high enough in the beginning. After a few weeks you'll start noticing the benefits of not smoking. After a few months you'll be really happy you quit. If possible, get some decent hardware, that will help too.

 

[Tivaliman]

Thanks guys, I really appreciate your kind words

 

[suprtrkr]

Been there, done that. It gets better. Or at lease it does if you stick with vaping. We're in your corner, never fear.

 

[Vapin4Real]

Sorry to hear you are having a tough time. If you dont mind me asking... what is your current vape setup? I know about recovery more than you know and keeping my mind occupied is what helps the most. I like to do a lot of shopping and buy myself some nice things to keep my mind occupied. The whole process of shopping and finding something, buying it, and then spamming refresh on the tracking page to watch it get closer is fun lol! Maybe do yourself some shopping for some cool vape gear to help sidetrack your brain from craving them cigs!

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Your body is angry at you. Tell it the way it is. Continue to get your nicotine. That is really the only necessity. Taste will come. Oh, wash all your clothes. Get a "smelly" tree for the car.

 

[Tivaliman]

Sorry you are feeling so vulnerable and at a low point. Give yourself some time to get used to all the changes your body is going through.

A list of symptoms when quitting tobacco and changing to an ecigarette

You are not alone. We are all here for you and are routing for you. You're a valuable member of this community, welcoming new members and sharing what you know.

Thank you for that link, it is a valuable piece of information. I'm gonna need to use it defensively, nearly everyone around me smoke. The common statement you will hear " man! They're even worser (e-cigs) or " I'd rather carry on smoking!" So, you see there's no joy. My family is a bit more happier there's no bad smell and ash everywhere.
Thanks again..

 

[Susan~S]

Thank you for that link, it is a valuable piece of information. I'm gonna need to use it defensively, nearly everyone around me smoke. The common statement you will hear " man! They're even worser (e-cigs) or " I'd rather carry on smoking!" So, you see there's no joy.

You're welcome.

You might find these 2 videos very educational and interesting:

• The Truth About Vaping: Why They Hate Us
• The Truth About Vaping: The Nicotine Misconception

And for a chuckle (see below).

 

[Tivaliman]

Sorry to hear you are having a tough time. If you dont mind me asking... what is your current vape setup? I know about recovery more than you know and keeping my mind occupied is what helps the most. I like to do a lot of shopping and buy myself some nice things to keep my mind occupied. The whole process of shopping and finding something, buying it, and then spamming refresh on the tracking page to watch it get closer is fun lol! Maybe do yourself some shopping for some cool vape gear to help sidetrack your brain from craving them cigs!

Boss, I'm still on my training wheels. I normally have about 30-40m of nicotine but I reduced it to 18mils . I started vaping .3% of blueberry a couple of days ago. Maybe I'm just tired, feel sleepy even in the afternoon. I do exercise a lot to help self motivation.
Oh yeah, nearly forgot. It's beginners e-cig . I'm having to pull on it hard to get a Decent vape with good flava it cost £20

 

[Vapin4Real]

Boss, I'm still on my training wheels. I normally have about 30-40m of nicotine but I reduced it to 18mils . I started vaping .3% of blueberry a couple of days ago. Maybe I'm just tired, feel sleepy even in the afternoon. I do exercise a lot to help self motivation.
Oh yeah, nearly forgot. It's beginners e-cig . I'm having to pull on it hard to get a Decent vape with good flava it cost £20

If you would like some recommendations for some cheap gear that performs at a high level so you get a better vape let me know. Keep on plugging on tho bro. Stay off them stinkies!

 

[Beeker]

Know how you feel. Don't try to do too much too fast...that was my mistake the first time cutting the Nicotine too low...from nearly 2 packs a day I dropped to 8mg...and it didn't work. On my second try I started at 24 mg and that calmed me down enough to stick with it. Of course this was my experience-- your results may require other 'adjustments'.

Good luck and hang in there.

 

[Tivaliman]

You're welcome.

You might find these 2 videos very educational and interesting:

• The Truth About Vaping: Why They Hate Us
• The Truth About Vaping: The Nicotine Misconception

And for a chuckle (see below).

If you would like some recommendations for some cheap gear that performs at a high level so you get a better vape let me know. Keep on plugging on tho bro. Stay off them stinkies!

If you would like some recommendations for some cheap gear that performs at a high level so you get a better vape let me know. Keep on plugging on tho bro. Stay off them stinkies!

Vapin4real, thanks buddy!
Heh heh heh,
I do want to move onto a better vape I'm looking at a few things already, the folks here are very helpful and informative. I do have some ideas in mind, I think setting those as a goal, would benefit me in terms of cessation. But mostly, it would set a clear path and can be quite character building. If you have any suggestions id be happy to hear them

 

[Tivaliman]

Know how you feel. Don't try to do too much too fast...that was my mistake the first time cutting the Nicotine too low...from nearly 2 packs a day I dropped to 8mg...and it didn't work. On my second try I started at 24 mg and that calmed me down enough to stick with it. Of course this was my experience-- your results may require other 'adjustments'.

Good luck and hang in there.

Yep, that's what I'm doing wrong. I only reduced the nicotine levels because the juice I got with the e-cig. The only shop closest to me for miles, has 50/50 and I know, now the pg does give a good throat hit and at 18mg nic, it punched my lungs out. Also, I've started getting the hang of firing the coils and pulls to the lungs. As a smoker, I never smoke into the mouth then drew the smoke from there. Maybe I could try something with a higher vg and a higher nic percentage . Hmm...

 

[Beeker]

You're starting out fresh...try different techniques till you find what works. It took me awhile trying mouth to lung and direct to lung. Depends on the device you're using. You'll figure it out. Whatever takes the edge off. Watch out for higher VG though...some pre-made coils don't wick very well with higher VG juices and you'll go through coils as they burn out or get clogged. 50/50 is a good compromise for TH and clouds if that's your thing.

 

[gingertalk196]

Hey, sorry you're having such a difficult time of it. As everyone says, it does get better. Make sure your nicotine level is high enough to deal with the cravings. Wishing you the best of luck.

 

[Vapin4Real]

Yep, that's what I'm doing wrong. I only reduced the nicotine levels because the juice I got with the e-cig. The only shop closest to me for miles, has 50/50 and I know, now the pg does give a good throat hit and at 18mg nic, it punched my lungs out. Also, I've started getting the hang of firing the coils and pulls to the lungs. As a smoker, I never smoke into the mouth then drew the smoke from there. Maybe I could try something with a higher vg and a higher nic percentage . Hmm...

I hear ya bro. Well I dont know what your vape style is so I will give you a couple recommendations for lower wattage (mouth to lung) type vaping, then intermediate mid range type vaping (mtl or direct lung), and then higher wattage vaping (direct lung with big clouds).

Lower wattage MTL:
*Mods - Istick 30w, CoV Mini Volt, Ego AIO(all in one)
*Tank - Nautilus Mini (this is the best flavor tank you can buy for MTL)

Mid Range MTL or Direct Lung:
*Mods - Coolfire 4 plus, Istick Pico, Tesla Nano 60w, Kanger Subox
*Tanks - Aspire Triton, Kanger Subtank Mini, Joytech Cubis

High wattage Direct lung/Big Clouds:
*Mods - Reuleaux RX200, Joyetech Cuboid, IPV5
*Tanks - Uwell Crown, Smok TVF4, Sense Herakles, Aspire Cleito

Nothing on this list is over 50 bucks and everything here is good quality and high perfomance for the price. Should you wanna venture out and get a high end mod you could get yourself an SX mini ML class or a DNA200. These mods will cover all bases regardless of how you want to vape.

Hope this helps you out bro. Keep it Vapey

 

[glointhedark]

What hardware are you using right now? Get your preferred nicotine level with this equipment sorted out first. My daughter and I were good at 18 mg nicotine with cigalikes and refillable cartos. When we switched to Kanger Evods, my daughter was still happy with 18 mg nicotine, and I stepped down to 12 mg nicotine. My daughter is now happily still using 18 mg nicotine in a Nautilus Mini on an Innokin VV v3 battery. I am alternating 6 mg nicotine in either a Nautilus Mini or an Evod Glass on an Innokin CoolFire IV battery.

50/50 pg/vg is a good starting point. We have successfully used up to 70 vg/30 pg on Kanger Evod 650 mah batteries with either Nautilus Mini or Evod Glass tanks.

Familiarize yourself with the equipment that you have now, and experiment with nicotine levels and pg/vg ratios until you are satisfied.

While you are doing this, cruise around ECF and the ECF suppliers. Check out the various mods, tanks, and eliquids that are available. Ask questions as they come to you. When you feel that you are ready, reward yourself, as you can afford, with new equipment or try a different eliquid supplier. Keep your special reward in mind as you transition from smoking to vaping.

Most important, take your time and enjoy. Quitting smoking is a journey. Things will happen at the right time for YOU. If you feel the need to dual use, then do it. You will still be smoking less than you would without vaping. Don't beat yourself up about slipups - we are all only human, after all. Eventually you will get to where you want or need to be.

We are here to support you and give advice based on our experience. Welcome to the vaping community.

 

[celticluvr]

I would suggest get 2 different Nicotine levels. One higher and one a little lower. Vape the higher nic when you are craving the nic. Vape the lower when you are just chilling. It'll keep you from getting hit with too much nic when you don't need it.

Don't feel so alone, there are people out there (us!) who understand what exactly you are going through. Keep up the good fight and congrats for quitting the smokes.

 

[The Ocelot]

Just take a deep breath. You are going through big changes.

Cigarettes have been your companion for a long time. They've been there for you when you were stressed, depressed, nervous, etc. They were something you could always count on. It can feel like breaking up with a friend, or being abandoned by one, or abandoning one yourself. You've been in a relationship that you know was bad for you, but it felt familiar and safe. It can be very scary. And even if you have the support of people who love you, they likely don't really understand what you're feeling.

Instead of thinking of vaping as a replacement for smoking, you might try thinking of it as something completely new; probably something you'll end up finding more fun than smoking. Get a a couple of different levels of nicotine, so you can switch to a higher one if you get craving. You can lower it later if you feel like it. You haven't failed if you smoke and vape for awhile at the same time - it's a learning curve to find the right kit, the right e-liquid, the right frame of mind. There is no "falling off the wagon." So what if you vape, then get stressed and grab a smoke? It's a cigarette, no big deal. You'll outgrow it quicker than you think. No matter how much you love something/someone there comes a time when you have to move on.

ETA: I smoked for 40 years - it was really hard to let go.