charging overnight (unattended)

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Ryedan

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The correct answer is spend the money on quality batteries and a quality charger.

You get what you pay for. When people cut corners bad things happen, like using a 3.2v charger on 3.7 v non safe chemistry batteries because it was cheaper, not fully understanding that the two are not fully compatible.

If you get quality non reproduction or refurbished batteries and use a proper intelligent charger made for your batteries your charge time should be minimal anyway... all of my batteries charge in under 3 hours including beastly 3400 mah Panasonics.

But TBH the biggest reason batteries end up blowing up is from missuse. You should always be inspecting your batteries and replacing them if the outer case/coating is missing/chipped/burnt/bulging/scratched. Batteries don't last forever and should be replaced if you have even the slightest doubt.

I have heard of more batteries burning and exploding while on chargers than any other type of battery incidents. By far. I've heard of quite a few good li-ion batteries venting when shorted with no flame or explosion. Typically they are in mechanical mods with no fuse and atty resistance is not a factor.

Even the most expensive chargers on the market can fail. I used to think Xtar and Pila didn't, but I've since heard of them going bad too. Luckily it doesn't happen often.
 

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Now I'm not arguing the safety of this one way or the other. But do you mean to tell me that there are people out there who charge their laptop until it's full, then immediately unplug it? Same with Cell phones, GPS units, etc? I'm not calling anybody out, but that seems really hard to believe. I know this isn't apples to apples with what the op is asking, but I see these comments regularly. Just curious.
 

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Now I'm not arguing the safety of this one way or the other. But do you mean to tell me that there are people out there who charge their laptop until it's full, then immediately unplug it? Same with Cell phones, GPS units, etc? I'm not calling anybody out, but that seems really hard to believe. I know this isn't apples to apples with what the op is asking, but I see these comments regularly. Just curious.

Actually yes, I have multi PC's and a laptop and I don't leave it plugged in with the battery I use it without the battery unless I'm traveling with it.
 

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I don't charge anything unattended, and that goes for my cell phone, my laptop, and my battery powered tools.

I'm lucky that I can keep a battery charger at work, and I have from 8 to 16 hours to charge up as many batteries as I can. At home, my battery charger sits on my china hutch within view.
 

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I use a 5 port ego charger with a household timer set to 1 - 2 hrs while charging at night.

Now that is smart!! Why didn't I think of that. Awesome.

It's generally not a good idea to leave batteries in a charger after you've cut the power to it. They may start discharging themselves back into the charger with nothing to control the discharge rate. Even if they just trickle discharge, you risk over-discharging them.
 

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It's generally not a good idea to leave batteries in a charger after you've cut the power to it. They may start discharging themselves back into the charger with nothing to control the discharge rate. Even if they just trickle discharge, you risk over-discharging them.

I do take the batteries out after the timer goes off before I go to bed. That's why I charge from 1 - 2 hrs while I'm still awake avoiding any mishaps.
 

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It's generally not a good idea to leave batteries in a charger after you've cut the power to it. They may start discharging themselves back into the charger with nothing to control the discharge rate. Even if they just trickle discharge, you risk over-discharging them.

I've never heard this before. I have occasionally left batteries in my charger after unplugging it. They've never discharged. What makes it happen?
 

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I've never heard this before. I have occasionally left batteries in my charger after unplugging it. They've never discharged. What makes it happen?

It's just how I was told to treat batteries when I first started using rechargable batteries. Always power up charger first; remove battery before powering down charger. I still see it mentioned to new users on lipo-based hobby forums. Then again, there's quite a bit more at risk when dealing with lipos.

For all I know, it may be a remnant from "ye olde days of rechargable batteries". Still; sounds sensible to me so I'll just keep doing it.
 

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This question always reminds me of the old joke about an accident at a stop sign intersection on a dirt country road that was never paid attention to because there was never any traffic there before. Batteries and chargers can and do deteriorate with use just like other things do... thing is, not all things share the harmful potential of fires and other accidents. I've broken my personal rule of not replying to these kinds of threads after advising caution and coming back in to find posters saying they'll still charge unattended overnight. To each their own and I wish them luck because luck is what they're chasing. I'm just glad I don't live in an apartment where that's probably going on every night.

Edit: Ugh... no I don't charge ANY battery unattended and by that I mean even if its in another room, which is not the usual, periodically checking it.
 
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