Looking to get a few Panasonic or Orbtronic unprotected NCR18650PD button tops for the Provari I will be ordering soon. What is the cheapest place to get these without worrying if they are fake.
Cheapest place to get button top Panny or Orbtronic NCR18650PD's u/p
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Yup they are on the list. Just trying to see if I can find a little cheaper.
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Is that the unprotected version of the Orb Bad??? How can you ever really tell when it doesn't specify.
This model is unprotected. High-drain safe-chemistry batteries are never protected, they don't need it.
The NCR18650A 3100mAh and NCR18650B 3400mAh models are available in protected or unprotected versions (not a high drain battery).
What is the difference between the PD on the Panny and the PF on the Orbs??? Panny has a PF too.
The PF version is a slight improvement over the PD version. Although not reflected in the specifications, the PF has a slightly higher capacity and the chemistry allegedly has a higher tolerance to internal heat buildup. Essentually, from what I've read they are exactly the same battery performance-wise.
This information came from ECF member Thrasher, who I've not seen post here in the last few months.
This information came from ECF member Thrasher, who I've not seen post here in the last few months.
This is a good question. Provape recommends at least four times on the product page to use only AW IMR high-drain button-top batteries. The Provari was actually designed with the AW batteries in mind.
Provape tech engineers gave some insight into why they recommend AW batteries in this response to a question that I asked:
Question for the tech engineers at Provape
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Because Pannys are 2900mAh. I want longer battery life. If there was an AW that was in that range I wouldn't be looking elsewhere.
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the difference in usable battery life between a 2900mah panny and 2000mah AW is going to be minuscule if at all noticeable. the numbers don't suggest so, but the battery performance isn't necessarily a parallel to the numbers.
although, i have read this on the web, i also have experienced this first hand with my 2900mah PDs and my AW 2000mah cells. i get most of a day out of either of them.
but, you'll ignore my experience anyway, so suit yourself.
although, i have read this on the web, i also have experienced this first hand with my 2900mah PDs and my AW 2000mah cells. i get most of a day out of either of them.
but, you'll ignore my experience anyway, so suit yourself.
Was that snide comment really necessary??? I was asking with the hopes of getting others knowledge and experience. I do this with things I am not as experienced with and pool all comments and make a decision based on different opinions. Weighing out the pros and cons. In fact that piece of information is good to know. I figured the difference between a 2000mAh batter and a 2900mAh battery would be substantial when pertaining to battery life. I would think that almost 1000mAh would add quite a bit of battery life. My MVP is rated at 2600mAh but with the included puff counter I am barely getting 500 puffs sometimes and it needs charging every day. On the flip-side some of my old 900mAh ego batteries would last two days. Battery chemistry is a weird thing.
Don't be so quick to judge what you think people are going to do with your advice.
THE difference between an AW and the panny are in the discharge curve. The pannys will provide more mAh of discharge, but, they will do so below 3.2v. You are not going to be using them below that voltage. therefore, the additional mAh of the panny are useless to you.
Battery spec sheets can be deceiving. Especially regarding mAh ratings.
There are graph out there (i have seen them posted here) showing discharge curves of various batteries.
IIRC, the 2000 mAh AW looks much like the panny in the voltages we use them in.
Thanks for putting it into that perspective. I figured no matter what the mAh you would get longer battery life.
So what is the longest lasting reliable battery out there.
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The AW is the best as far as consistency goes. It is thoroughly tested to meet its specs.
I have not had a bad panasonic 18650pf however.
The 30 amp Sony VTC5 is an incredible battery and will perform quite well in less demanding use also.
I have all three mentioned.
All last about the same run-time wise in my evic, SID and Vamo.
The Sony excels in my mech.
I have not had a bad panasonic 18650pf however.
The 30 amp Sony VTC5 is an incredible battery and will perform quite well in less demanding use also.
I have all three mentioned.
All last about the same run-time wise in my evic, SID and Vamo.
The Sony excels in my mech.
for a provari? probably the 2000mah AW, honestly. dunno about the vtc5's first hand, but my vtc4 button tops (which they're not natively) are a bit long and fit tight (too tight).
plus, it's worth noting that if you ever have problems with your provari and need to send it in, they will ask you to include the battery and atty you're using when the problem happens so they can troubleshoot it effectively.
now, if you were looking into a mech or a new Reo Grand, i'd say definitely go with the vtc5. though, unless you were sub-ohming you'd still only get a marginally better performing battery both in run time and voltage drop. but if you ever wanted to try sub-ohming, the difference in voltage drop would be almost immediately noticeable in the vapor output.
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