Chibi tank leaking... carto issue?

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donnah

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I think one of the best things I have read on this site is to fill the tanks from the bottom, when you press the grommet back in- air is pushed into the carto instead of liquid. I don't think I've ever filled one totally up and don't remember any major leaks except for when I sliced up a grommet when filling the tank. Got a couple 5/16 x 5/8 grommets at the hardware store to replace it and the rubber smell was terrible and ended up dumping the juice, so use vinyl grommet replacements and you can find them online/ebay/amazon for about $8 for 50.

Never fill them totally full, leave some air at the top

After I took mine apart, I'm seeing lots of nicks and cuts in the grommet. I guess that could be the source of the air leak but, I don't think they look large enough to matter. I don't know, maybe they are.

Mine measure 5/16 x 5/8 also. Looking on Amazon now. The 50 package is $9 and $5 shipping at Amazon. Ebay has a pack of 50 for $9 with $4 shipping.

Thanks!

CRAP! I've got a cardboard box behind my desk where I keep lots of empty syringes, capped needles and various bottles for diy... just took out a 20ml syringe to look at it with making my own tank in mind... after handling it.. it smelled funny. The cat peed in the box! Yuck! Now I'm going to have to take everything out and wash it!
 
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I'm thinking it might be a good idea to have some of those around as replacements. If you get any , let us know just which ones you got and how they fit.

After I took mine apart, I'm seeing lots of nicks and cuts in the grommet. I guess that could be the source of the air leak but, well, does I don't think they look large enough to matter. I don't know, maybe they are.

Mine measure 5/16 x 5/8 also. Looking on Amazon now. The 50 package is $9 and $5 shipping at Amazon. Ebay has a pack of 50 for $9 with $4 shipping.

Thanks!
 

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I'm thinking that the carto flooding is an air pressure problem. I'm being very careful with this tank when filling, not to nick the grommet when I slide the needle in. On my first tank when I took it apart, I'm seeing some nicks in the vinyl and this may be letting air in. I don't yet have any more punched cartos or replacement grommets but I should by next week sometime. When I get these things in, I'll be able to experiment more. In the mean time, be super careful when filling!

Here is the Amazon page the has the grommets I'm going to get.
 
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In looking at the pic of the grommets, I see a seam running down the sides of the grommets, hopefully that won't keep it from making a seal. Let us know how these work out.

I'm thinking that the carto flooding is an air pressure problem. I'm being very careful with this tank when filling, not to nick the grommet when I slide the needle in. On my first tank when I took it apart, I'm seeing some nicks in the vinyl and this may be letting air in. I don't yet have any more punched cartos or replacement grommets but I should by next week sometime. When I get these things in, I'll be able to experiment more. In the mean time, be super careful when filling!

Here is the Amazon page the has the grommets I'm going to get.
 

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If you buy grommets try to get the vinyl ones , recently was at hardware store and seen the correct size ones for my acorn tankand they smell like a rubber tire and im sure they would impart a some sort of flavor.
The chibi and acorn tanks use vinyl ones looks just like the rubber one.

I noticed someone mention the stingy things looking like some sort of wick , yes thats the acorn tank with a ce2 pre-installed from Parkes and i have a handful of them and they do not leak period.
If your a fan of ce2s they work well least for me. ; )
 

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Yep, the ones I ordered are vinyl and they look just like the ones in my chibi. I also ordered a three ft piece of polycarbonate tubing. My husband can cut it into 1" pieces. Ill have enough to make 25 tanks for around $20. Ill post next week when I get everything in,cut,punched and put together. Hopefully it will work.
 

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If you buy grommets try to get the vinyl ones , recently was at hardware store and seen the correct size ones for my acorn tankand they smell like a rubber tire and im sure they would impart a some sort of flavor.
The chibi and acorn tanks use vinyl ones looks just like the rubber one.

I noticed someone mention the stingy things looking like some sort of wick , yes thats the acorn tank with a ce2 pre-installed from Parkes and i have a handful of them and they do not leak period.
If your a fan of ce2s they work well least for me. ; )

And you are correct about the smell of the rubber grommets affecting the taste, I am a victim and that is the reason I ordered the vinyl and recommend vinyl
 

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Just got my Chibi- and it flooded!!! I had to fiddle with the rubber gasket thingees, and now I've finally got it to work. Ugh. My newest Liquinator 3ml has started to flood after only a few days. Replaced the inner O-rings and that didn't help. Also received a J-tank- thus far, it's worked the best.

I really thought the Chibi was the way to go in that it has soft gaskets that hug the cylinder and it was just a matter of lifting up the edge, stick a syringe in and vape away. Not as easy as it looks from the instructional vid I saw, at least it was a bit of a struggle for me on my first go.
 

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When you lift the grommet out you are breaking the seal. when you fill it up and then push the grommet back down you are creating a High pressure inside the tank. its going to keep leaking out untill the pressure equalizes. One fix is after you fill and push the grommet back down slide a saftey pin down between the grommet and tank to create an air hole the pressure can escape out of. Then remove the pin and vape away.
 

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Mine doesn't- it's just the two vinyl gasket/caps. I haven't noticed any separate o-rings in it. I don't think it requires them as the grommet pretty much seals up the tube/tank. I'll admit it is a bit fiddly trying to seat those thing in the tube correctly. Then again, I just got mine yesterday. Perhaps a long-time user can answer your question better than newbie me.

I gotta say that of the various models and makes of tanks- I'm really loving my J-tank. I'll give my chibi and workout and see how it goes. I primarily chain-vape only at night whilst watching TV, so the tanks are great and convenient... when they work ;-)
 

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There's a learning curve with the chibi but it's a short (and easy) one. My first one flooded too but I think it was because I wasn't careful and nicked the grommets. This second one is working perfect and when I get my replacements in, I can use them on the other polycarb sheath. (I hope they fit). It's ALL about air pressure and equalization of air pressure. when filling, you MUST be careful when sliding the needle down beside the grommet and you must tilt the needle a bit to let air escape while you're putting juice in the tank. It's not hard at all once you do it a few times. That said, I believe that each time you (I) refill, there may be tiny damage to the grommets that add up over time. And once enough damage is accumulated, air will be able to get into the tank and it will keep flooding. But that would fall under the heading of "normal wear and tear". These are cheap enough to buy new ones when that happens or just get some replacement grommets (please let me have ordered the right size!)

I like things that are inexpensive, simple and easy and I work hard to research the right products that fit this criteria and will work for me. Chibi tanks fit that bill. I never was too interested in tanks because of the price. $25 is too much for me to spend for one just to try out. I've got bottom feeders so that too was a factor in my disinterest. But tanks are so much easier and simpler to use. I don't worry about squeezing the bottle and I only have to fill it once a day. Plus, pared with a bottom feeder, I don't worry about running out of juice cause I have lots on top and on the bottom!

When the tank is filled and working right, I can lay it on its side, throw it in my purse and vape laying in bed. I've found that if it's going to flood the carto, it will do so right away and once the air pressure is equalized I'm good to go and can lay it around any ole way.

Something else I've just discovered. I was using the tank with a 1.7 resurrector on a simple 3.7 device and it just wasn't hitting hard enough for me. I found an adaptor and now I can put it on my vv device and with the voltage turned up to 4.2 and it's hitting much better, the draw is less airy and it's as close to the perfect vape as I've some across yet.

Before I found the adaptor, I couldn't use it on my vv box because the catchcup didn't allow me to screw the tank down far enough to make a good connection. I'm now starting to look at vv tube mods because I've found a way to feed the carto without all the constant refilling/topping off. :D Tanks have opened up an whole new world of vaping!
 
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No it dose not use o rings. the grommet has 2 lips seperated by a groove. One lip should be in the tank body and the other sticking out over the edge.
do the chibis have o-rings in the grommets when new? i bought one second hand and the whole grommet seems to slide easily into the tube, it has no o-rings. it doesnt look as if it will seal the juice in.
 

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The grommets do not have o-rings. Not needed. Without a carto in the grommet they will feel too loose, but when the carto is inserted, the grommet swells just enough to seal adequately. I have found that to keep from nicking the grommet while inserting the needle to fill, I use a small screwdriver blade and insert it between the tubing and grommet, then insert the needle beside the screwdriver, pull out the screwdriver, then fill slooowwwly. Or you could leave the screwdriver in for added venting of air.

do the chibis have o-rings in the grommets when new? i bought one second hand and the whole grommet seems to slide easily into the tube, it has no o-rings. it doesnt look as if it will seal the juice in.
 

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I use a simmilar method. Safety pin. I run the needle down next to the pin and ive not nicked a grommet yet.
The grommets do not have o-rings. Not needed. Without a carto in the grommet they will feel too loose, but when the carto is inserted, the grommet swells just enough to seal adequately. I have found that to keep from nicking the grommet while inserting the needle to fill, I use a small screwdriver blade and insert it between the tubing and grommet, then insert the needle beside the screwdriver, pull out the screwdriver, then fill slooowwwly.
 
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