Choices for good TC capable RTAs

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TrueNorthist

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I was hoping you peeps might help me narrow down the choices for a good rta that works well in TC mode. I have a couple Kayfuns I have been using with good results using Kanthal -- namely a Tobeco V4, EHPro V3.1 and my favourite the EHPro Lite Plus V2. I have found the LP V2 is not really up to the task for TC and the V4 is only marginally better. The 3.1 is completely haywire in TC mode. Does anyone have any suggestions which RTAs are best for flavour production, while working well enough in TC mode?

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I was hoping you peeps might help me narrow down the choices for a good rta that works well in TC mode. I have a couple Kayfuns I have been using with good results using Kanthal -- namely a Tobeco V4, EHPro V3.1 and my favourite the EHPro Lite Plus V2. I have found the LP V2 is not really up to the task for TC and the V4 is only marginally better. The 3.1 is completely haywire in TC mode. Does anyone have any suggestions which RTAs are best for flavour production, while working well enough in TC mode?

Thanks very much.


maybe the issue is how the coil connects to the posts;
 
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maybe the issue is how the coil connects to the posts;
Maybe, but I have disassembled and cleaned my RTAs very thoroughly -- including boiling the parts in vinegar -- and have been careful to ensure good, clean contact at the posts as well as the base 510 connection. My feeling is I have done as much as I can as far as cleaning and ensuring good connections. I am also fairly sure I am building at least decent Ti coils now, but it will be a while before I can say that with any confidence.

I thought it would be a good idea to eliminate the RTA itself as a source of concern by buying a few known good models. I have read elsewhere and seen reviews that state that Kayfuns are not the greatest RTAs for TC mode operation. If that is incorrect I am thinking I am in the right place to find out! It sure would be great to keep using these LP V2s because I find they are by far the best for flavour.

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Right on folks, I have seen those names before but held off cause the Kayfuns were so good with Kanthal. I am gonna let this thread fill for a bit then possibly buy them all, but I will place an order today for the Billow v2, which I know is sold locally. The rest I will hunt down in their natural habitats. A fella can't have enough variety when it comes to such things.
 

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Hi I have been using the Smok tfv4 single and dual decks and the Bellus. I use Titanium and SS. They seem to work good. Also it depends what mod you are using. If it is a DNA 200 you can get a cvs from Steam, make a few adjustments in ramp up temp and all should be good. Hope that helps. I have even tried a Ni coil for the Nautilus. Works ok but would not buy just for that.
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I was hoping you peeps might help me narrow down the choices for a good RTA that works well in TC mode. I have a couple Kayfuns I have been using with good results using Kanthal -- namely a Tobeco V4, EHPro V3.1 and my favourite the EHPro Lite Plus V2. I have found the LP V2 is not really up to the task for TC and the V4 is only marginally better. The 3.1 is completely haywire in TC mode. Does anyone have any suggestions which RTAs are best for flavour production, while working well enough in TC mode?

Thanks very much.

If you're using kayfuns, don't buy a KF4 as they have horrible conductivity for TC. I, personally, use mostly Subtank Minis as my go to tanks and they perform solidly in TC mode (just make sure you screw the RBA deck all the way down and make sure all is snug). I'm still looking for a better single coil tank and I don't think any exist especially if you consider the simplicity of building and filling. If you build a subtank, try out a Ti build in 24 gauge (6-7 spaced wraps). It's great.

If you're into dual coil tanks, go pick up a Crius. It's top fill is great and its conductivity seems rock solid on my DNA. As for me, I find myself hitting my STM's much more often than my Crius as I find the vape more satisfying.
 

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Ah, some new and unfamiliar RTA names have arrived. Cheers all. I should say I am very reluctant to buy something that puts me back on the pre-built atty treadmill. I used to plow through 3 to 5 Boge cartos a day at my peak -- more when I was developing recipes -- but I suppose I have to at least try a pre-built atty tank. I see some folks are successfully rebuilding a lot of the prefabs so I'll have to spend more time studying the potential. There is some new stuff appearing using ceramics that looks very interesting, but I'll wait for more develoment and some thorough and long-term reviews before making that jump.

I've been hearing about the Subtank Mini for some time now and have added them to the growing list (including the nano) along with an Aromamomamaliniserator. I take it you all favour the "two post side tension applied design" seen here?
Aromamizer (velocity deck) builds
Can't wait to start hoarding those beauties! The Billow 2 was supposed to already be on wings to me, but they are sold out at my local purveyor. edit: I will also be buying a Zephyrus v-2 (put the dash in there to avoid the auto-link) That looks like a solid little tank atty.

Meantime I am having much greater success with my now rather old but still very serviceable Kayfuns, now that I am using cotton instead of Rayon. But I am indeed noticing that the v4 is rather persnickety in TC mode and it looks like it is the cause of all the new or used coil demands. I figure the spring is breaking contact each time I set it down and the Treebox thinks I swapped attys? But there is a bit more room on the v4 deck for the larger Ti coils I am building using both #24 and #26 wire, so I will keep using it and answering the damned question each time I have a toot. With the heavier wire and bulky cotton things are getting tight in the LP v2s, but not unreasonable. Extremely tightly spaced coils is making things a bit easier in that respect, but I have some wiggle room with the #26 and will have a go at spaced coils today. Mind you, I am getting fairly proficient with the Ti micro-coil building process and am amazed at how long these things keep on chuggin out the steam rich with flavour. With kanthal I have to rebuild after 24 hours or suffer a dirty and muted vape, not so with Ti and this nifty little Treebox. Making the leap to TC has very much been a fairly easy step thanks mostly to Ti wire. I tried Ni on an HCigar dna40 mod a year ago and hated everything about it, except the mod which isn't half-bad as a power-mode-only box.

My plan is to scoop a Wismec Reuleaux DNA200 in a couple weeks when my budget is a bit fatter, but just last night I ordered an RX200 and some batteries which should hold down the fort. I am thinking that triple-celled behemoth will feel like sucking farts out of a dead pigeon's backside, but I can use it at home with no witnesses except the wife and former sweetheart. I am really, really looking forward to getting a dna200 though. mmmmmmmmmmmmm... software... aaaaaaggggllllaaaaaahhhhhhhgggggg....

edit: And I really must say thanks again to BigEgo for the wick tip. That one step has greased the skids to near nirvana. I am actually creating clouds for the first time really, without a second coil nor having to spike my mix with extra VG. 70/30 in just about all my recipes is creating a thick overcast with scattered showers and heavy icing conditions at altitude. C'est merveilleux!
 
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Maybe, but I have disassembled and cleaned my RTAs very thoroughly -- including boiling the parts in vinegar -- and have been careful to ensure good, clean contact at the posts as well as the base 510 connection. My feeling is I have done as much as I can as far as cleaning and ensuring good connections. I am also fairly sure I am building at least decent Ti coils now, but it will be a while before I can say that with any confidence.

I thought it would be a good idea to eliminate the RTA itself as a source of concern by buying a few known good models. I have read elsewhere and seen reviews that state that Kayfuns are not the greatest RTAs for TC mode operation. If that is incorrect I am thinking I am in the right place to find out! It sure would be great to keep using these LP V2s because I find they are by far the best for flavour.

Thanks for the reply.
What I was referring to is like there are devices that have post holes and there are devices where you have to wrap the wire around a screw head; then there are devices where you wrap the wire around the screw but there is a washer to retrict the movement of the wire while turning the screw.

So I mean look more closely at the deck design, specifically how the wire gets connected to the post.

I'm thinking a deck with postholes is easier to get a more consistent connection,.
 
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Thanks for the clarification Edyle. I was indeed (I have to stop using that word so much...) mistaken in my understanding. I have a couple attys that employ holes drilled across the screw-bore to secure the wire, but I regularly severed the wire with the set-screw by over-tightening! I have always reverted to wrapping the wire around the screw and cinching it between the top of the terminal and the screw-head. You know what they say about old dogs right? I am going to have to train myself to use the wire-hole and set-screw wherever it is provided, which appears to be the case in most quality sub-tanks. There are several bad habits that I need to dispose of now that I have taken the TC plunge.

Cheers, and happy new year.
 

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The velocity deck with the no hole through grub screw setup is Great! You can really tighten the coil down good with out cutting the wire :) I find with TC most of the problems are with the wire connection to the atty posts :(
An Aromamizer or a Cthulhu V2 are 2 good choices, I use every day with TC :)
 

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Youde Goliath V2 with the single coil adapter installed would likely suit your vaping style (restrictive airflow, mostly MTL, lower wattages). Great connectivity, two post design, 5ml capacity in a compact design, functional juice flow control, wide range of airflow, and you can slum it with pre-built Kanthal coils if you get lazy.

Youde Goblin Mini, also with the single coil adapter, would also work for you, though it's a pain to fill with the screw on the bottom (something you're used to though), and it uses a four hole offset coil design that can be a bit problematic with TC builds due to slightly uneven leg lengths, but it makes up for it with awesome flavor and a super compact design.
 

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I've been quite happy with Crown RBA using the SS coils that are included with the RBA.
Since getting the wicking down (S wick, LOTS of cotton), I've never had a leak.
Airflow is whatever you like as far as I can tell with it.
I have 2 of these and they have done many a tank flawlessly.
One tip for you, dual coils and TC are not the best thing going. Too much chance for differences and that leads to poor results. Single coil is the way to go with TC.
 
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