Choosing between a tank and a clearomizer

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fiftydollarburrito

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I currently have 2 ego 1000 mah batteries and am using boge standard resistance cartomizers with a drip tip on it. Everything is working alright but I hear great things about these vision clearomizers. On the other hand, I hear that you can attach the boge cartomizers into a tank type system like this:

Tanks - Mom and Pop Vapor Shop

It also seems to get very good reviews. I'm a little confused. Will both of them work with my battery? What do you guys recommend?
 

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What is it that you would like to improve upon throat hit, vapor production, convenience? If it's throat hit and vapor production that would depend on the e-liquid you're using, but assuming 80pg/20vg or mainly PG I would try a low resistance (LR) cartomizer or dual coil. If it's convenience like reducing your frequency of topping the carto off than I would get a tank as you mentioned. I do not have any experience with clearomizers so I can't comment on that. If you could explain what it is you are trying to achieve I think you will get a more useful response.

BTW: as long as it's a 510 connection it will fit your battery.
 
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I and all my friends all use a tank system. Very easy to change cartos but the cartos must be punched- either do it yourself or buy pre-punched.
Benefits:
no more dripping/ filling carto except on the first fill
tank holds lots of juice so less filling and easier to fill than carto.
cartos seem to last longer and less chance of carto "dry burning".
My tank is still good after 2 months with no leaks. Clearomizers I have not used so no idea.
 

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I don't want to bother with the cartomizers because of all the liquid that stays behind in the cartridges. That being said, I've never tried and compared them. Apparently the dual coil carts are pretty good though. I just ordered a new stardust clearomizer and I got it because you can change the wick and coil easily and also adjust the tightness on the wick.
 

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Both will work fine. A carto tank is just that, a tank that holds a carto -- if the carto fits, it'll work, unless your PV has a really deep drip well, then you would need an extender adapter.

For tanks you want to use stainless steel (bare) cartos, and they need to be punched (round hole) or slotted -- the punch or slot is what feeds the eliquid into the carto, to keep it wet. You can buy prepunched cartos from multiple vendors, though most of us slot or or punch our own fairly quickly. I use a DIY punch I posted in the PIF area, COV sells a nice one for $15, you can use a 1/4" self-piercing saddle valve from the plumbing section of a hardware store, or a dremel tube-cutter wheel to slot. Personally I found saddle valve cumbersome, a PITA, but it absolutely does work. I used a dremel until I came up with my DIY punch.

The only tank I've owned is the notcigs M1A1. It's been a real workhorse, after 7 months of every day, 6 + ml/day, use, I'm only now needing to replace one o-ring on it.

Carto replacement on the tank I use, and most others that I've heard of, is pretty simple. Tanks have top and bottom end caps, with o-rings that the carto slides through to seal them. Just lube the o-rings with a little eliquid and slide the carto into the bottom (a slight twisting motion helps get it past the o-ring, compresses it instead of shearing).

I top fill -- with the carto top below the top cap, tank at an angle, squeeze eliquid out of a bottle into the gap, then slide the carto the rest of the way up, again use a slight twisting motion.

On first fill, prime the carto -- drip some liquid into the top of it, to moisten the filler top. When you first insert the carto all the way, the holes or slots should be just above the bottom cap, and you should see a little bubbling -- that's the liquid going into the carto. Give it a minute or two for the original soaking, blow through it onto a tissue to clear any excess (same as for just using a carto by itslef), and you're set to go. You shouldn't worry about priming the top after the initial setup, even if it looks dry.

Tanks don't magically extend the life of cartos, but do keep the fiddle factor down -- you'll top off a tank much less often than just a carto. I ran 22 - 24 ml of eliquid through plain cartos, get the same amount through when using a tank, before it's time to toss them or clean them.
 

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Interesting. It sounds like everyone seems to really like tanks. I have a whole bunch of the black BOGE cartomizers which will be worthless with a tank I'm assuming since you need an all metal one. I'd like to be able to punch the cartomizers myself. Luckily I have a dremel so I should be able to take care of that. Thanks for all of you help. I think I"m going to go for a tank.
 

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Just be certain to start with a small hole. If larger is needed that you can make it larger. The size of the hole will depend largely on the PG/ VG ratio you're vaping. I vape 60/ 40 PG/ VG and the hole in my carto is 2.5 mm.
Good Luck.

Interesting. It sounds like everyone seems to really like tanks. I have a whole bunch of the black BOGE cartomizers which will be worthless with a tank I'm assuming since you need an all metal one. I'd like to be able to punch the cartomizers myself. Luckily I have a dremel so I should be able to take care of that. Thanks for all of you help. I think I"m going to go for a tank.
 

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From left to right, SmokTech DCC tank (hate it), Mom & Pop Vapor Shop Mini-Sub with a Boge2.0 Carto (Love it), Vision Stone III tank. Love it!

I wouldn't get another SmokTech. The draw on it is weird, and I cant quite put my finger on it.

The Mini-Sub: I'd like to get a few more of these. I changed the carto once already, and it was sort of a pain to do. Ive got some good pointers here, and saw a video by PBusardo on how to do it, and understand it gets easier over time.

Vision Stone: My favorite so far. Some love them and some hate them. I happen to love mine. I have 4 more coming as well as the replacement innards for 2. Just twist off the top (it unscrews.. just make sure to hold the tank in place while you do it) and refil. To change flavors, just rinse in water, pat the wicks dry and refil. Love it!
 
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The reason many here are choosing tanks over clearomizers is because of the history of the latter being hit and miss. Maybe someday, if not already, there will be one that actually works, gives consistent hits and doesn't leak. But that's not what most of us remember.

Cartos on the other hand have a fairly good track record. Put it into a tank and it still works just as well. Just less fillings before the need to toss them. That's a price to pay for them but most of us accept that.

I haven't been keeping up with the latest and greatest clearomisers. Don't even know if parts are replaceable, what needs cleaning or even their costs.

Cartos are cheap and disposable. The tanks seem fairly stable as long as you stay away from cinnamon.

Given my bad history with trying clearomizers and my good fortune using cartos I'm not likely to go out and try every new gizmo now. And I've only been at this for 4-5 months.

As far as the Smoktech DCC I didn't like the carto. I use 1.7's almost exclusively now and it also works well in the Smoktech tank.
 
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I found a drip tip that allows me to use standard sized carto's in a long tank like that ... works great.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-forum/284541-atomic-dc-tank-standard-carto.html

sweet!! Will check that out for sure!


As far as choosing between a carto/tank system or a clearomizer? Try both. Should run you about $30 to try a tank and a clero. Worth the $$ in my opinion because you'll understand and know which you like better. I bought 2 tanks and 2 clearo's (as well as the atty/dripping method) and for me, I liked the clearonizers better. It's a better hit for me. Not for others, but for me :)
 

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