I sub ohm on a mech, and also vape regulated mods for 7 years. I screwed up my wicking on my moonshot rta today, and got stuck with no vape when out drinking with my mates. I went to the gas station and picked up an Altria mark 10 xl for 10 bucks. The atty in the damned thing actually works well, and I like the flavor better than many tobacco vapes I have had. It's e chargable, and I'll try to refill the carto with salt 24 mill nic when it runs out. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's not bad at all! I like it. Vape on people, and thanks for reading this crap.