Cigalikes are garbage

[Robert Cromwell]

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He's funny, a couple items are in fact inspired by him

According to PBusardo pink mods are inspired by Dimitris
Strange that both of them are Tootle Puffers.

 

[Thrasher]

Atmomixani 3d dripper is his design

And pheel is always picking on him, lol he can't say phil

 

[Robert Cromwell]

He digs Pheel back too, I just watched his review on the Kanger subox mini.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Any veteran vaper will tell you this truth.
We have all probably tried them at first. I know I did. I can tell you a universal and undeniable truth about them.
They are garbage.
They are nothing more than a most introductory lesson into vaping. I know of no vaper in my circle of friends that started with a cigalike and continue to use them. They have many flaws and 1 in particular comes to mind.
In the cartomizer, the unit that holds the 'liquid', no one has any idea what is in there. Sure, the package might tell you but how do you know? These cigalikes were the only product used in a study in 2008 to determine what was in the liquid. The results were disturbing but not surprising. They found formaldehyde, cyanide and other toxic chemicals usually found in cigarette smoke. So, yes, they really are cigalikes. But at the same time, painted the entire industry with a broad brush so now everyone thinks that vaping is just as deadly, if not more so, than smoking analog cigarettes which is nothing but one gigantic lie. Any vaper will tell you that.
Why were these chemicals found in a vaporizer? Because most cigalikes are, and have been, produced by Big Tobacco. They don't want to lose customers or money. They want every former smoker to be just as addicted to their cigalikes as they were to their cigarettes. There are several videos on YouTube of interviews with BT representatives that say this very thing.
Don't buy the garbage because it's cheap. Go to your local vape shop and talk to someone who was in your shoes.

Wow, tell us what you really think lol. I agree completely that the typical prefilled cigalikes come from who knows where (well, actually that bastion of consumer safety, China) with who knows what's in them. They can give vaping a bad name for numerous reasons.

But, how many here started with a gas station cigalike -- I did, and although it wasn't really great, it was enough to get me started on vaping instead of smoking. So they have their place. I still use my eroll frequently as a highly portable, discreet vape, as an example of a cigalike that still has its use.

If gas station cigalikes can get enough people curious about vaping, maybe try it and go from there, we've won another ally. Exactly as you state, once someone gets some experience vaping and some know how from a local shop, they almost always move on to a higher quality experience with better gear.

A decent cigalike is like riding a bicycle, while a box mod with a dripper is like taking a private jet with stewardess service enroute. They both get you there, but very differently. Every once in a while I like to hop on that old bicycle and go for a spin.

 

[CommaHolly]

Wow, tell us what you really think lol. I agree completely that the typical prefilled cigalikes come from who knows where (well, actually that bastion of consumer safety, China) with who knows what's in them. They can give vaping a bad name for numerous reasons.

But, how many here started with a gas station cigalike -- I did, and although it wasn't really great, it was enough to get me started on vaping instead of smoking. So they have their place. I still use my eroll frequently as a highly portable, discreet vape, as an example of a cigalike that still has its use.

If gas station cigalikes can get enough people curious about vaping, maybe try it and go from there, we've won another ally. Exactly as you state, once someone gets some experience vaping and some know how from a local shop, they almost always move on to a higher quality experience with better gear.

A decent cigalike is like riding a bicycle, while a box mod with a dripper is like taking a private jet with stewardess service enroute. They both get you there, but very differently. Every once in a while I like to hop on that old bicycle and go for a spin.

Agreed. I started with a gas station cigalike, moved to the Volt cigalike, then to the larger ego style, then on to a box mod,,,,,,,,,,,now I'm using a provari, and I love it,,,,,you never know what else is out there though

and although I wouldn't go back to a cigalike now, it certainly got me interested, and for that, I am grateful.

 

[Vapez]

The only thing I miss about cigarettes is opening a new pack and smelling it, lighting it up with a lighter. The only thing I miss from cigalikes is the ability to vape hands-free. Use it while doing stuff with both hands. Used to do that all the time while smoking.

 

[stevegmu]

I like an NJOY King every now and then...

 

[Rocketpunk]

Well, surprise, surprise, here I am, a veteran vaper, and I still love my little Volts. I have seven or eight batteries that are still going strong after two and a half years. I don't use them daily, but I have them for when I want to go out and about without having to carry a mod with me. They're discreet, with 18 mg the throat hit is satisfying, the flavor is great because I get to choose it, and I like Smokeless Image as a company. And if one gets lost or breaks on me (I've never had a Volt "break"), meh, it's a six dollar loss. Also, in public, sometimes mods bring unwanted attention or conversation. When people see me with my Volts, they just roll their eyes.

EDIT: That weird HTML stuff isn't my fault. I just typed "Smokeless Image" and it appeared.

 

[Rocketpunk]

The only thing I miss about cigarettes is opening a new pack and smelling it, lighting it up with a lighter. The only thing I miss from cigalikes is the ability to vape hands-free. Use it while doing stuff with both hands. Used to do that all the time while smoking.

The only thing I miss from smoking is my Zippo collection. I still do tricks with them every now and then. The fluid has lasted for over two years!

EDIT: The fluid in the bottle, not the actual Zippo.

 

[IMFire3605]

They may not be the latest and greatest thing like crust free bread, but they do suit their own purposes. As stated above, they get smokers interested seeing 3 or 4 different brand cigalikes at the local corner store they frequent to buy beer and smokes. 2nd a quality cigalike with a nano or micro tank and a higher nic liquid than you usually use makes a great out and about unit to stealth vape with, very little vapor to offend any non-smoker around you, restaurant, bar/pub, theatre, sporting events that do not allow larger units into the venue, concerts, the list goes on, heck even on an airline flight, they are just enough to keep you sane until you can get back to your usual unit. Still got several Joye 510 manuals, 2 Haka Minis, and a bunch of Vision Nano tanks for them, work like dang charm with 18 or 12mg liquid for a couple hour outing at the movies with the significant other or a 6 hour flight.

 

[khalidmna]

They perform terribly, but I find the slim and sleek design of some of them look better than my box shaped MVP:

 

[Toronnah]

I wouldn't call them garbage. They serve their purpose.

A Kia Rio is no Mercedes S Class, but they both get you to work.

 

[Rixsta]

The only purpose they served to me back in 2009 was unsatisfying, flavor lacking and not any real amount of vapor and within 2 weeks I was back on the cigs again. People don't know how lucky they are quitting now with what is available. Cigalikes were just a small step up from nicotine inhalers, bloody terrible they were.

 

[Vaslovik]

It does not surprise me in the least that BT would put the same poison in it's cigalikes that it does in it's analogs, but there are some cigalikes you can get with empty cartridges you can fill with your own juice. The Volt is one. That doesn't make them a good vape, they are weak and pitiful vapes, hardly worth the money. Unfortunately all too many beginners seek them out, wanting something that approximates the size and feel of the cigarettes they are used to, and also because they are reluctant to spend what is required for a decent vape because they know little or nothing about vaping. Then too there are the vapers who want it to slip into their shirt pocket and aren't willing to carry a mod and atty. I lived with such a man, and he went back to smoking because he was not willing to adapt to what would have been a satisfying vape. It had to go in his shirt pocket, or he would not use it. He's back to coughing a lot...

 

[Vaslovik]

But, how many here started with a gas station cigalike -- I did, and although it wasn't really great, it was enough to get me started on vaping instead of smoking. So they have their place. I still use my eroll frequently as a highly portable, discreet vape, as an example of a cigalike that still has its use.

If gas station cigalikes can get enough people curious about vaping, maybe try it and go from there, we've won another ally. Exactly as you state, once someone gets some experience vaping and some know how from a local shop, they almost always move on to a higher quality experience with better gear.

Well they don't always move on to better gear, that's a very individual thing, but your point is well taken, since I started with a truly wretched device called the Smart Ecig. Let us be clear once and for all, any product labeled "smart" is only smart for the seller.

I did move on to better gear, with great alacrity, but not everyone does. All too many reject vaping based on their experience with cigalikes. I know several such people personally. They will say they tried that but it sucked and they like smoking better, etc, etc... and they never once tried a decent mod and atty, often because they were too cheap to spend the money, or just didn't want to bother with anything having a learning curve to it. And, again, because they were unwilling to adapt to anything but what most closely resembled a cigarette, and they could stick in their shirt pocket.

 

[bman1977]

Any veteran vaper will tell you this truth.
We have all probably tried them at first. I know I did. I can tell you a universal and undeniable truth about them.
They are garbage.
They are nothing more than a most introductory lesson into vaping. I know of no vaper in my circle of friends that started with a cigalike and continue to use them. They have many flaws and 1 in particular comes to mind.
In the cartomizer, the unit that holds the 'liquid', no one has any idea what is in there. Sure, the package might tell you but how do you know? These cigalikes were the only product used in a study in 2008 to determine what was in the liquid. The results were disturbing but not surprising. They found formaldehyde, cyanide and other toxic chemicals usually found in cigarette smoke. So, yes, they really are cigalikes. But at the same time, painted the entire industry with a broad brush so now everyone thinks that vaping is just as deadly, if not more so, than smoking analog cigarettes which is nothing but one gigantic lie. Any vaper will tell you that.
Why were these chemicals found in a vaporizer? Because most cigalikes are, and have been, produced by Big Tobacco. They don't want to lose customers or money. They want every former smoker to be just as addicted to their cigalikes as they were to their cigarettes. There are several videos on YouTube of interviews with BT representatives that say this very thing.
Don't buy the garbage because it's cheap. Go to your local vape shop and talk to someone who was in your shoes.

Greensmoke cig a likes got me off cigarettes. They suck now compared to what i'm using but at the time they were great.
I can't agree with you here.

But like they say. Opinions are like ***holes. Everyone's got one and they usually stink.

Cheers

 

[bluecat]

I still enjoy cigalikes now. Do not think they are garbage. I'd like to see someone hold a mech or a 200W device from the corner of their mouth.

I suggest you reread the 2008 study for clarity.

Njoy kings are on the expensive side, but pretty darn good.

 

[Racehorse]

They are nothing more than a most introductory lesson into vaping. I know of no vaper in my circle of friends that started with a cigalike and continue to use them.

Hate to tell you but there are many vapers, right on this forum, who use cig a likes and/or little tiny things like 510 joyetechs. As a matter of fact, I just met someone here yesterday who has been vaping 5 years and still uses what you just said nobody uses. Many posts over the years here about spouses or someone still using cigalikes and how they should upgrade and they don't WANT to.

Whatever keeps people off the cigs.

I'm 3+ years into vaping.......today, I'll be using my Joyetech eRoll kit most of the week because I'm leaving town and that is usually the only vape I take with me.

Not sure what the purpose of these kinds of topics is........? I guess it's one of those "my vape is better than your vape" kinda things.

Anyone tried the esmart 510 BCC clearomizer? A cigalike tank that works pretty good.

Using the joyetech eCab here.....

Also enjoy the white cloud flings, NJOYs and in a pinch, I have a few Mark Tens in the truck glove compartment. Love to use them when at race track, etc.


See, everyone is different. The idea of a sub ohm stream of vapor going down my esophagus absolutely skeeves me. I tried it once and that was enough. And all that ejuice being vaporized....requires so much ejuice consumption per day. I don't want all that in my lungs.

Some people love a light, gentle vape.

 

[misterholidayhouse]

They serve a purpose. I was given a brand new disposable cigalike by an old lady I didn't even know who saw me smoking. I took it with me on a camping trip and though it wasn't the answer I had hoped for, I saw the potential and it got me researching and within a few weeks I had smoked my last cigarette. My first setup after disposables was a Joyetech eRoll Kit which is officially a cigalike. It was enough to keep me off the real thing 100% for a couple months until I lost the need to have a cigarette sized device between my fingers.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I wonder how many of us would be here, or if there'd even be an ECF, had there been no cigalike. They don't work as well as most things but I'd never consider them garbage.