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vaperature

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Buying back all of their juice with cinnamon in it? I'm sorry but that's absurd. It's not like they sold a product that was faulty because of something they did. They sold a product that was decided to be perfectly fine and then "information" came to light that said it wasn't so they pulled it. Their actions were perfectly adequate.

Eh, I'd have to take issue with that. Vendors should know the safety of their ingredients. If they aren't a million percent sure about it they shouldn't use it.
 

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Buying back all of their juice with cinnamon in it? I'm sorry but that's absurd. It's not like they sold a product that was faulty because of something they did. They sold a product that was decided to be perfectly fine and then "information" came to light that said it wasn't so they pulled it. Their actions were perfectly adequate.

I guess you have never heard of a voluntary recall on a product in the name of customer safety before.
 

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Just curious what your relationship with MBV is or juice vending in general. Seems anytime someone has something critical to say, or even some productive criticism to share, you take it ultra personally.

No, what I take personally is the misinformation that seems to be perpetrated for no good cause other then to stir up controversy and bashing. I have no affiliation other then being a customer and knowing first hand about what I like and don't like. I don't take it personally, I take it overall as there is just way to much misinformation being spewed with little or no research or facts. What I take personally is comments that are made out of hand without proper attention to detail and having to be subjected to ignorance. If someone has productive criticism that fine, just to make statements for the sake of making statements when you haven't got a clue is what bugs me! As for what my over all relationship is with juice vending in general goes, well whats yours? Mine is due to the fact that got me off something that was killing me slowly everyday.

I hope this has satisfied your curiosity! Oh, and last I checked I am free to state my feelings and thoughts just like anyone else here and even fought to preserve this right. Anything else you wish to know?
 

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No, what I take personally is the misinformation that seems to be perpetrated for no good cause other then to stir up controversy and bashing. I have no affiliation other then being a customer and knowing first hand about what I like and don't like. I don't take it personally, I take it overall as there is just way to much misinformation being spewed with little or no research or facts. What I take personally is comments that are made out of hand without proper attention to detail and having to be subjected to ignorance. If someone has productive criticism that fine, just to make statements for the sake of making statements when you haven't got a clue is what bugs me! As for what my over all relationship is with juice vending in general goes, well whats yours? Mine is due to the fact that got me off something that was killing me slowly everyday.

I hope this has satisfied your curiosity! Oh, and last I checked I am free to state my feelings and thoughts just like anyone else here and even fought to preserve this right. Anything else you wish to know?

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Well, here we go again, for your information they have mentioned that if there does become an issue with the Cinnamon they would take care of it. I really wish that comments that are made like this have some real substance behind them. Take too much of cue from another individual here! And I fail to see how in the world it matter what the cheapest route it, the fact is they didn't have to do this for any reason but they did, so no matter what the outcome is, they still lose out on revenue.

I was also wondering about your connection to MBV? ... I still stand by a recall ... over, oh well, let's stop selling it and hope the folks we made money from selling it to are OK.

They don't lose money on a recall ... they just don't profit on a product, that they themselves are now doubting the safety of :2cool:
 

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No, what I take personally is the misinformation that seems to be perpetrated for no good cause other then to stir up controversy and bashing. I have no affiliation other then being a customer and knowing first hand about what I like and don't like. I don't take it personally, I take it overall as there is just way to much misinformation being spewed with little or no research or facts. What I take personally is comments that are made out of hand without proper attention to detail and having to be subjected to ignorance. If someone has productive criticism that fine, just to make statements for the sake of making statements when you haven't got a clue is what bugs me! As for what my over all relationship is with juice vending in general goes, well whats yours? Mine is due to the fact that got me off something that was killing me slowly everyday.

I hope this has satisfied your curiosity! Oh, and last I checked I am free to state my feelings and thoughts just like anyone else here and even fought to preserve this right. Anything else you wish to know?

You certainly are one SERIOUS dude. Do you ever just relax and get off that high horse of yours. Never mind, don't want to start a tit for tat with you that will ruin this thread. Have a good evening.
 

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I guess you have never heard of a voluntary recall on a product in the name of customer safety before.

I agree. A recall is not absurd at all. If they think their product has something harmful in it and know that their product is still in the hands of people being used, they are just as guilty as if they are still selling it.
 

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Well, here we go again, for your information they have mentioned that if there does become an issue with the Cinnamon they would take care of it. I really wish that comments that are made like this have some real substance behind them. Take too much of cue from another individual here! And I fail to see how in the world it matter what the cheapest route it, the fact is they didn't have to do this for any reason but they did, so no matter what the outcome is, they still lose out on revenue.

And they gain other revenue.

I DIY and have not bought premade juice since my first month vaping. I am planning to buy several bottles of juice from MBV come black Friday simply as my way of saying ty for watching out for us. I would much rather a company be too quick on the trigger than too late.
 

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As a non affiliated vapor, that enjoys Mt Baker vapor fluids and prices, and am thankful that I dont waste thousands anymore on cigarettes, and that I have clean drinking water, and that I am not homeless, and that I have food on the table every night,, and that my favorite fluid of all time, MBV cinnamon roll, is pulled is the BIGGEST obstacle I have today,,,, well I have a lot to be thankful for..... AND I would like to offer to give you a refund for your cinnamon roll fluid, same price that you paid! :) :) I'm sure there are others that would too. Crazy to think that tobacco companies would willingly sell and PUSH cigarettes on the people of earth knowing the harm it does, and people buy them, assuming the risk because "they want to make the choice for themselves" then quit cigs and take the *high road* and slam big tobacco UNTIL an event like this where MBV does something that is cautious and in the name of making sure there fluids are NOT doing what cigs did (from my vantage point is what happened)..
Free country too, everyone is definitely able to start an efluid company, sell flavors like cinnamon mouth blast off, Cinnamon head twirler, Cinnamon tongue melter, Cinnamon cranial lopper, Cinnamony cinnamon yum yum, call the company CINNAFLUID = THE WORLDS ONLY CINNAMON ONLY CINNAMON eFLUID

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I was also wondering about your connection to MBV? ... I still stand by a recall ... over, oh well, let's stop selling it and hope the folks we made money from selling it to are OK.

They don't lose money on a recall ... they just don't profit on a product, that they themselves are now doubting the safety of :2cool:

First off, do I think they jumped the gun, yes, do I fault them for the intentions, no, do I think that should put it back up with a disclaimer or whatever, yes, however I most certainly do not think they deserve to be bashed for doing something the felt to be right regardless of what others may think there intentions are. Have they stated that once more information has come to light they would address the issue accordingly, yes they have, it was posting in there support section on here.

And again for anyone that is wondering what my connection is with them, none other then being a customer, period. At this point with the information that is out there now, there is no need for them to reimburse anyone or buy back the juices, again this is all in their support section and I am sure will be handle whatever the case may be. Again, my involvement is one in which when I see misinformation without due cause it irks me.
 

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You certainly are one SERIOUS dude. Do you ever just relax and get off that high horse of yours. Never mind, don't want to start a tit for tat with you that will ruin this thread. Have a good evening.

Ok, here you go again, I am not even going to address your posts any further, obviously you don't learn from your mistakes and keep pushing that envelope good luck in your whatever your agenda is. You have continue to state the same things that you don't want to start things then act as though you are walking away just to come back and be condescending again, I hate to break this to you but your not as good at it as you seem to think you are. So with that said I am done here and with your offhanded remarks.
 

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I don't remember a time until recently that ECF was this cantankerous over just about anything. And I've only been here 15 months.

It has become more so over the past few weeks, seems just a few love to stir a pot! I don't know, we are pretty much all here for the same reason or at least that is what it is supposed to be.
 

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Ok, here you go again, I am not even going to address your posts any further, obviously you don't learn from your mistakes and keep pushing that envelope good luck in your whatever your agenda is. You have continue to state the same things that you don't want to start things then act as though you are walking away just to come back and be condescending again, I hate to break this to you but your not as good at it as you seem to think you are. So with that said I am done here and with your offhanded remarks.

It's called being passive aggressive. People on the internet love to do it. It's like poking a bear with a stick 100x, then blaming the bear when it mauls their face.
 

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I'd like to have a vape of what Irkel is having.
 

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I'd like to have a vape of what Irkel is having.

I once taught high school math to a kid that looked exactly like Erkel. I still thank my blessed stars that my back was turned to the class when I heard that kid say "Did I do that?" one day. Sometimes even teachers can't keep a straight face.
 

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First off, do I think they jumped the gun, yes, do I fault them for the intentions, no, do I think that should put it back up with a disclaimer or whatever, yes, however I most certainly do not think they deserve to be bashed for doing something the felt to be right regardless of what others may think there intentions are. Have they stated that once more information has come to light they would address the issue accordingly, yes they have, it was posting in there support section on here.

And again for anyone that is wondering what my connection is with them, none other then being a customer, period. At this point with the information that is out there now, there is no need for them to reimburse anyone or buy back the juices, again this is all in their support section and I am sure will be handle whatever the case may be. Again, my involvement is one in which when I see misinformation without due cause it irks me.

fair enough opinion ... however, I am not aware of this misinformation that irks you so much.

My opinion still stands ... if a company discontinues a product or stops selling a product, that they themselves are not certain is safe for their customers ... the remedy is not to just stop selling it ... they should make an effort to get that product back into the hands of the company ... they don't even have to pay money out to do this ... this can be done with product replacement.
 

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There is nothing to "win" here. You're bickering on the internet with someone who has actually taken the time to research for YOUR health. If you were to start a company that sold transmissions for automobiles don't you think it's just to say they should do in depth research on all of their parts to avoid failure? It's the same principal. If you're selling a product and making profit off of the public then you better do your research prior. Pointing the finger was necessary to debunk the panic that had hit the e-market.

Such a horrible comparison. These vendors use products APPROVED BY THE FDA. So should some restaraunt research all their ingredients before serving them? Like have independent studies to make sure it's not gonna hurt any one?? No! That's the FDAs job!


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I was also wondering about your connection to MBV? ... I still stand by a recall ... over, oh well, let's stop selling it and hope the folks we made money from selling it to are OK.

They don't lose money on a recall ... they just don't profit on a product, that they themselves are now doubting the safety of :2cool:

So every juice should recall cinnamon? Why doesn't trident recall their gum then? It's the same ingredient! Read that article I posted and it pretty much shows that study is full of holes anyway


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It has become more so over the past few weeks, seems just a few love to stir a pot! I don't know, we are pretty much all here for the same reason or at least that is what it is supposed to be.

I'm with you man. It's the logical viewpoint. Some others just want to argue


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