Mech mod's have nothing on lawn mowers.
I own several mechs and rebuildables. As far as I am concerned they are my insurance against the FDA deeming. ALL have heat springs which collapse if things go wrong. I also build them right around 1 ohm and use good 20 Amp batteries. I have NEVER seen a report of a REO blowing up though it is possible.
My point is that I learned how to handle them. Use the safest best quality devices I can get my hands on. Know my Ohm's law and how it applies to vaping.
Frankly I resent the heck out of anyone telling me my mechs should be taken away because some people are idiots. It is that kind of thinking that is leading us down the rabbit hole of over regulation as it is.
Make mechs illegal? Ok well they have to get them away from me first.
Got that right!Like our weapons they can get them when they pry them from our cold dead hands!
IMHO I do not believe this is a case of an industry not policing itself. Are car sales man requiredanother unwitting person injured/ maimed by a dangerous product sold by an industry that fails to police itself and recklessly sells harmful products to the American public.
IMHO I do not believe this is a case of an industry not policing itself. Are car sales man required
to give their customers a safety course before a customer purchases a car? Does having a drivers
license mean one is a safe driver? Does being over 18 mean one is responsible?
As I have mentioned in other posts most of these incidents (not all) involve younger men.
As a generalization most young men will either ignore safety information (because they have
it covered you know) or, do not want to here it as they and their bro's know what they are
doing. There is a reason more younger men are involved in car accidents.
Clearly there are plenty of vendors supplying safety information. If the customer is
indifferent there's not much that can be done. I also find it hard to believe that there
could be vapors who haven't heard that some of these devices have exploded.
Just as an observation I have noticed all the tobacco/vape shops around here
do not even sell unregulated mods anymore. I do not believe this is a industry
problem nor necessarily a customer problem. Granted there are vendors and
customers that are clueless. It is the device itself that is the problem. Even if
one is completely versed in ohms law,battery safety and,knows ones device in
and out that just prevents the frequency of accidents. It is not a guarantee
one will not have a accident. The batteries are simply not made to be run at
(absolute)maximum current out put with out degrading the battery. Battery
specs are design parameters not operating instructions. Many people own
cars that will do 110 to 120 mph or more. Is it safe to drive them that fast
normally and in all conditions?
Regards
Mike
Here's two words to illustrate for you:IMHO I do not believe this is a case of an industry not policing itself. Are car sales man required
to give their customers a safety course before a customer purchases a car? Does having a drivers
license mean one is a safe driver? Does being over 18 mean one is responsible?
As I have mentioned in other posts most of these incidents (not all) involve younger men.
As a generalization most young men will either ignore safety information (because they have
it covered you know) or, do not want to here it as they and their bro's know what they are
doing. There is a reason more younger men are involved in car accidents.
Clearly there are plenty of vendors supplying safety information. If the customer is
indifferent there's not much that can be done. I also find it hard to believe that there
could be vapors who haven't heard that some of these devices have exploded.
Just as an observation I have noticed all the tobacco/vape shops around here
do not even sell unregulated mods anymore. I do not believe this is a industry
problem nor necessarily a customer problem. Granted there are vendors and
customers that are clueless. It is the device itself that is the problem. Even if
one is completely versed in ohms law,battery safety and,knows ones device in
and out that just prevents the frequency of accidents. It is not a guarantee
one will not have a accident. The batteries are simply not made to be run at
(absolute)maximum current out put with out degrading the battery. Battery
specs are design parameters not operating instructions. Many people own
cars that will do 110 to 120 mph or more. Is it safe to drive them that fast
normally and in all conditions?
Regards
Mike
Make mechs illegal? Ok well they have to get them away from me first.
Like our weapons they can get them when they pry them from our cold dead hands!
Got that right!
You are either deliberately ignoring what I am saying or trying to stir the pot.It's a very distinct possibility if the "idiot explosions" continue....and you know they will.
You are either deliberately ignoring what I am saying or trying to stir the pot.
The reality is with mechs. Even if they banned them (possible). Even if they went into every home in the country and confiscated every mech (extremely unlikely). They cannot stop mechs. Almost anyone could build their own mech in an afternoon. Even me and I am not particularly good with tools.
The need for sensible regulation will always exist. Without it, companies would subvert safety for profits and this does not end well at all for the consumer. Look at what happens when companies fail to follow standards when processing food for consumption. You end up with a lot of sick (or dead) people.
Saying the government needs to .... out totally is just as bad as government's over regulating. Sadly, there tends to be no middle ground.
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But if that's your mission, then all I have to say is...."Don't drop the soap!"
The FDA or other government entity could have released recommendations or info about the problems with mechs. There is no need to ban anything, in fact that kind of activity destroys their credibility. But they don't seem interested in improving anything in any way they can't make mandatory.
Mechs shouldn't be outlawed because they aren't really much of anything: A battery holder, switch, connector. How can that be defined without affecting things it shouldn't or be easily sidestepped?
The government has proven itself incapable of being sensible in some areas to the extent that no trust is left. As nothing has fully taken effect yet, there is still some time, but the current path is a terrible missed opportunity to do things differently.
And just how many people would even get FDA news if they didn't have the net or didn't surf a forum like the ECF? The people that would need to know the dangers can't even absorb what their vendor advises let alone comprehend what a government agency publishes.
And then there's the manufacturers that clearly don't test their products before selling them to unsuspecting mech users. Whoever made this thing clearly didn't use their head. And the vendor probably wouldn't have suspected anything's wrong either. But whose going to get hurt in the end?
The user and anyone else that's within a 10 foot radius when it explodes.
Mechanicals are just dangerous....period.
And in the hands an idiot, they're bombs.