Class action lawsuit based on junk science

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zoiDman

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BT will expose the lies in court, if it goes that far, and that would help smaller companies and shops defend themselves, but I agree, this is mostly bad news.

I have Complete Faith that BT will present a Very Compelling argument if this Case(s) are argued in an Court.

Unfortunately, by the Time such arguments are Actually presented, we may be in the 2nd or 3rd Year of a Fully FDA Regulated Market.
 
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I have Complete Faith that BT will present a Very Compelling argument if this Case(s) are argued in an Court.

Unfortunately, by the Time such arguments are Actually presented, we may be in the 2nd or 3rd Year of a Fully FDA Regulated Market.
Well, maybe last night's ANTZ California defeat gives you a bit more hope.
 

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Well, maybe last night's ANTZ California defeat gives you a bit more hope.

Not exactly sure what got Defeated last night?

But I Do still have Hope.

BTW - The Fly in the Frosting for the Extraordinary Session Bills is the 21+ Age Limit. Something I think is Ridiculous. And something California Residents have historically Opposed.
 

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BTW - The Fly in the Frosting for the Extraordinary Session Bills is the 21+ Age Limit. Something I think is Ridiculous. And something California Residents have historically Opposed.
They'll drop that one. They know they can't get away with it. If they could, they would.
 
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They'll drop that one. They know they can't get away with it. If they could, they would.

I think you are On Point on this.

And that was what was Discussed at the 7:30 Recess. To go ahead and Convene a Special Session when they Didn't think they had the Flavor Votes to pass ABX2-8.

Anyway... Back On Topic.

Did Anyone notice what the Remedy that was being Sought was in the RJ Reynolds Suit?
 

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The article says (many times) that consumers believed thus and so. As one of those people, I want to contend the suit based on what I believe(d). How can I do that? Can I sue these people for making erroneous claims about consumers, of which I am one? Would be great counter strategy PR to bring such a (frivolous) lawsuit against these people who are also bringing a frivolous lawsuit into public domain.
 

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The article says (many times) that consumers believed thus and so. As one of those people, I want to contend the suit based on what I believe(d). How can I do that? Can I sue these people for making erroneous claims about consumers, of which I am one? Would be great counter strategy PR to bring such a (frivolous) lawsuit against these people who are also bringing a frivolous lawsuit into public domain.

Fixed that for you, with the studies that have come out recently I think we would have a better chance of winning in court where the truth has a good chance of overcoming the TC industries propaganda.
 

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The article says (many times) that consumers believed thus and so. As one of those people, I want to contend the suit based on what I believe(d). How can I do that? Can I sue these people for making erroneous claims about consumers, of which I am one? Would be great counter strategy PR to bring such a (frivolous) lawsuit against these people who are also bringing a frivolous lawsuit into public domain.
Find a lawyer willing to take it up on a 95% contingency fee as a class action, and I'd like to sign up.
 

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Fixed that for you, with the studies that have come out recently I think we would have a better chance of winning in court where the truth has a good chance of overcoming the TC industries propaganda.
I cringed at his equating his wholesome, constructive thinking with their devious greedy scheme.
 

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FDA and BT has more people eating out of their hand more than most realise. Geezus.

The FACT is, vaping IS a cessation from smoking. Simple plain verified and verifiable FACT. Simply because one group of extremely manipulated people make statement saying 'you can't say that' , does not make it anything resembling reality.

No one can see the setup here? Not one. Hence why I laugh.

One tiny part of the fact, is that if no one wanted to do it, it would not be illegal.

Second, there would be no market , if hundreds of thousand and more, were not getting anything out of it.

Third, there would be NO legislation of any kind, if someone was not losing HUGE market share. This can ONLY mean ONE thing, ONE, people are stopping smoking because of the ecig.

Now I have no way of verifying or even making the claim, but I dare to bet it is much more healthy, or so many people would not be getting into the court systems trying to milk from it. The healthcare system will suffer from less use of cigarettes, and likely if already seeing it in the numbers. They will fight. And they have their pawns all around.
 

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FDA and BT has more people eating out of their hand more than most realise. Geezus.

The FACT is, vaping IS a cessation from smoking. Simple plain verified and verifiable FACT. Simply because one group of extremely manipulated people make statement saying 'you can't say that' , does not make it anything resembling reality.

No one can see the setup here? Not one. Hence why I laugh.

One tiny part of the fact, is that if no one wanted to do it, it would not be illegal.

Second, there would be no market , if hundreds of thousand and more, were not getting anything out of it.

Third, there would be NO legislation of any kind, if someone was not losing HUGE market share. This can ONLY mean ONE thing, ONE, people are stopping smoking because of the ecig.

Now I have no way of verifying or even making the claim, but I dare to bet it is much more healthy, or so many people would not be getting into the court systems trying to milk from it. The healthcare system will suffer from less use of cigarettes, and likely if already seeing it in the numbers. They will fight. And they have their pawns all around.

BT is being sued, what does the FDA have to do with that?
 

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BT is being sued, what does the FDA have to do with that?
I fear not the label of conspiracy theorist when it comes to the depths of malarky the billion dollar bill might spawn.

Imagine various {place alphabet soup organisation here} who employ career politicians, family friends acquaintances, in which most or all are appointed via cascading connections, working in harmony as one.

This is no different than any other large corporate deal. It's simply requires more facets of disorientation to finalise. Hence, where there is confusion there is profit.

Nothing a hundred thousand phone calls can do, nothing a national media blitz can stop, considering it's all bought and paid for. And there is nothing tobacco could care less about than another law suit. Nothing new, and even less, nothing not, expected and prepared for.

The way I see it, this is chess, not checkers. Make one move that appears to be faulty, all the while it's part of a much larger plan.
 

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I didn't buy my first e-cig to quit smoking. I bought it as an adjunct to smoking......to use it where I couldn't smoke and as a recreational device. It worked as a recreational device; and as a "side effect", I quit smoking! :)
And this might be 90% of all cig users. matters none, people are quitting smoking , because of the ecig. However it's happening, it is happening. And it's amassed a large number of financial institutions attention.
 
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