Clive Bates - current vaping knowledge and links Dec '14

[Anjaffm]

MUST READ for those who are interested in truth about vaping and the vicious opposition by "public health" activists
- Also takes apart Stanton Glantz and his lies.

Links, studies, ecigs are no gateway, very much current information:


Clive Bates: The Worst Letter of 2014 – a review
http://www.clivebates.com/?p=2597

- - I would not know what to quote. This whole text is a fountain of information for vapers.

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Background:
4 infamous anti-vaping activists who dare call themselves "public health" (although nothing could be further from the truth) have been whining and accusing in the journal "The Lancet" because a vaping activist from the UK (homemaker, mother and part-time waitress) actually had the gall to write to them and offer a communication with vapers.
Imagine! A member of the public (!) offering to engage in discussion with "public health". Unthinkable! And the professional liars in their ivory towers are, of course, quite irate.
(sarcasm included)

 

[AndriaD]

He truly is brilliant. I tweeted it, even though I'm sure it's been tweeted a bunch already.

I'd love to denounce the "PH" bullies the way he does, but they make me so angry I become completely incoherent.

Andria

 

[Anjaffm]

He truly is brilliant. I tweeted it, even though I'm sure it's been tweeted a bunch already.

I'd love to denounce the "PH" bullies the way he does, but they make me so angry I become completely incoherent.

Andria

Thank you, dear You can never tweet that enough

And hm... those PH bullies do not make me inoherent, they make me ice-cold and very sarcastic. If you look at my last tweets - the ones with the pictures - you can see it The one with the T-shirt I cannot post here *giggles*

But have you seen the fotograph of an ANTZ when confronted with pro-vaping evidence?

/edit:
And if anybody thinks that I am being disrespectful towards the 4 Horsemen of Evil, take a look at just who started the whole thing
Caution: language. Very bad language.
Not by vapers. But by a Professor of "public health" talking to the "public" whose "health" he allegedly wants to protect - redheadfullofsteam | coming down upon the opponents of vaping with great vengeance and furious anger

/edit2:
This guy was suspended from his job for a short while and then reinstated. Yes.
However, he is no longer on Twitter. Thankfully.

 

[AndriaD]

Thank you, dear You can never tweet that enough

And hm... those PH bullies do not make me inoherent, they make me ice-cold and very sarcastic. If you look at my last tweets - the ones with the pictures - you can see it The one with the T-shirt I cannot post here *giggles*

But have you seen the fotograph of an ANTZ when confronted with pro-vaping evidence?

/edit:
And if anybody thinks that I am being disrespectful towards the 4 Horsemen of Evil, take a look at just who started the whole thing
Caution: language. Very bad language.
Not by vapers. But by a Professor of "public health" talking to the "public" whose "health" he allegedly wants to protect - redheadfullofsteam | coming down upon the opponents of vaping with great vengeance and furious anger

/edit2:
This guy was suspended from his job for a short while and then reinstated. Yes.
However, he is no longer on Twitter. Thankfully.

I know, it's a terrible character defect: rampant, unashamed, PROUD stupidity makes me so angry I just want to hit and kick and tear 'em a new one! I find, unfortunately, that I am sometimes quite stupid myself; but I'm ashamed of it, I'd never be PROUD of being stupid!!! The glANTZs of the world seem to be so repugnantly PROUD to be so stupid, I want to evict them from planet earth! Totally disown them from the human race!

Andria

 

[Anjaffm]

@AndriaD:

Yup. I would donate a few bucks for a spaceship to ship them all off planet Earth, for sure!
By the way: it is not that they are stupid. They know the truth very well. Very well indeed. But they get paid to pretend to be stupid. And that is what gets my goat. They get paid (with tax money, among other things) to protect the smoking economy. Because it feeds them. And it feeds big business interests. That is a win-win situation. With only one loser: smokers. And who cares about them anyway? Who cares about people? We have enough of them, and if not, we can always make some more. (sarcasm intended)

Oh, and I see that you've found the T-Shirt, on Twitter

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Back to topic:
and I sure love Clive Bates' rebuttal - and the many useful links that are contained in that document. (link in 1st posting )

 

[choochoogranny]

You guys are certainly humorous today and I'm willing to share my blood pressure pills if you keep it up!

I cut my pills in half; but after reading some of the ANTZ articles......in small doses.....I take a whole one. Thank goodness, you both are there to give me hope and comic relief!

 

[AndriaD]

@AndriaD:

Yup. I would donate a few bucks for a spaceship to ship them all off planet Earth, for sure!
By the way: it is not that they are stupid. They know the truth very well. Very well indeed. But they get paid to pretend to be stupid. And that is what gets my goat. They get paid (with tax money, among other things) to protect the smoking economy. Because it feeds them. And it feeds big business interests. That is a win-win situation. With only one loser: smokers. And who cares about them anyway? Who cares about people? We have enough of them, and if not, we can always make some more. (sarcasm intended)

Oh, and I see that you've found the T-Shirt, on Twitter

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Back to topic:
and I sure love Clive Bates' rebuttal - and the many useful links that are contained in that document. (link in 1st posting )

That t-shirt suits me... to a T! But, I couldn't wear it around my family; my mother would die a thousand deaths to see that word on the front of some garment I'm wearing.

I disagree that they're not stupid; even if their motives for all this lying are greed rather than outright brain-dead-ness, they haven't learned a very important lesson: the truth will always out, and it usually bites liars right in the ..... Anyone who has something to hide... that "something" can be used against them, in ways they usually find very painful. Their day is coming, and I will be laughing my .... off when it finally arrives.

Andria

 

[Bill Godshall]

The correct webpage for Bates' latest missive is
The Worst Letter of 2014 – a review « The counterfactual