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That sure is a compact setup! Very nice pairing!

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U almost have to have a top air flow atty on the micro don't u brother. Just because the atty is so close to the fire button would be blocking of the air on the side with your finger when firing the mod. Was one thing I was thinking about when looking at them before. I do c a brass micro in the future for me my freind. So damn tiny I will probauly loose it. The dualy should be on its way my way from the case guy John on monday. Can't wait my freind will throw some pics up for sure of it all when it comes in. Out of curiosity what was your go to builds for the vector my freind gauge wraps od size ect thanks brother
 

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U almost have to have a top air flow atty on the micro don't u brother. Just because the atty is so close to the fire button would be blocking of the air on the side with your finger when firing the mod...

Top-Air Atties aren't necessary, I was able to run an Atomic on mine after I adjusted the 510 on the Mod, I had a micro-thin gap between the base of the atty & mod but it isn't noticeable at all... I usually adjust all my T-Mods for that micro-thin gap.
 
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Top-Air Atties aren't necessary, I was able to run an Atomic on mine after I adjusted the 510 on the Mod, I had a micro-thin gap between the base of the atty & mod but it isn't noticeable at all... I usually adjust all my T-Mods for that micro-thin gap.

Why make a gap on purpose out of curiousity. I understand turning the 510 for the air hole reason. But why other wise. Doesn't making a gap put unwanted pressure on the 510.
 

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Why make a gap on purpose out of curiousity. I understand turning the 510 for the air hole reason. But why other wise. Doesn't making a gap put unwanted pressure on the 510.

I'll agree with fishwater, the gap is so minute you only see it if you look very closely, and I think most of the minimal Atomizer weight would be supported by the threading. I screw the atty down to ~1/16-1/8 turn after it's snug, I've never over-tightened any type topper on my Mods... for me, it's always easier to check the snugness than kill a 510 on your mod or atty.
 
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U almost have to have a top air flow atty on the micro don't u brother. Just because the atty is so close to the fire button would be blocking of the air on the side with your finger when firing the mod. Was one thing I was thinking about when looking at them before. I do c a brass micro in the future for me my freind. So damn tiny I will probauly loose it. The dualy should be on its way my way from the case guy John on monday. Can't wait my freind will throw some pics up for sure of it all when it comes in. Out of curiosity what was your go to builds for the vector my freind gauge wraps od size ect thanks brother
In my opinion top air is the way to go period! I just hate leaking juice on stuff, vector: never leaks at all, thump: dam near as leak proof. I always thought it would make for horrible flavor, just because the way the air flows, but ill be dammed, The vector has pretty good flavor and the thump, great flavor. I see what your saying about hitting the air holes, but you can position the atty any way, to avoid the holes, but you don't wanna touch it anywhere bc its hot, im actually running a vector on my micro right now


They are so small I kinda hold it sideways more than I would a 10ml mod, so it works out, it's just something you get used too.
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Why make a gap on purpose out of curiousity. I understand turning the 510 for the air hole reason. But why other wise. Doesn't making a gap put unwanted pressure on the 510.
Your absolutely right, it's not the best way to go. It's gonna scratch the deck with some attys, but that's aleays going to be covered up so it doesn't bother me. I usually ship them with the pins hi so if your trying to get it up and running quickly you dont have to adjust it if you have an atty w a short pin.
It does put added pressure on the 510, and having stainless atty threaded into aluminum hole your absolutely right. However, I've never had anyone hurt their threads, ever. If I did I could fix it, so its not a big deal, but I have dropped mods, dually, from like 20ft, right on the atty, with a gap, and I thought it might, but it didn't, at the end of the day, I leave a gap bc I like to swap around a quasar that has a short pin, so it's just me being lazy, but if you hurt your mod, I'll be able to fix it, pretty much a guarantee, just not a guarantee bc, well, it gets crazy out there.

I can't wait to see your whole setup, it's gonna be awesome.

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Hey TBev...How is my dually doing? Take your time, I am not in a particular rush :) . My only issue with the gap is condensation buildup on the bottom of the atty on hot builds and juice overflow. Now if a shallow juice well could be routed into the mod to help capture and divert overflow away from the 510 before a possible short...

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Leaky atty = -50 points on my scale...has yet been overcome ... Don't think it will. I think the thump is dope, I just wish there were some aftermarket party's I could make for it, but it's just about as good as it gets already, sick a Teflon tip on it and I can't find anything better. If I made an atty, it would be a thump deck maker out of aluminum, with delrin cap, Teflon tip, game over add far as I could tell, unless you could route the top air intake thru the sleeve to cone in under the coils, but internally, they the /a sleeve to keep it from leaking...That's the only way I could see making it better...I'm telling you guys, aluminum decks are the way to go, it's obvious bc it conducts do much better but I realized it making a voltmeter. I used a ss deck, (an inline meter, threaded into a 510) and it was like a full volt off almost, I bet you get 75% less loss with identical attys in ss and aluminum...minimum. ..


I can put a groove around the 510, and a slot out, just like that if you want bigger diameter, wider, deeper, however you want. What are you worrying about sorting (I think your referring to the worst case scenario, but elaborate please)

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Leaky atty = -50 points on my scale...has yet been overcome ... Don't think it will. I think the thump is dope, I just wish there were some aftermarket party's I could make for it, but it's just about as good as it gets already, sick a Teflon tip on it and I can't find anything better. If I made an atty, it would be a thump deck maker out of aluminum, with delrin cap, Teflon tip, game over add far as I could tell, unless you could route the top air intake thru the sleeve to cone in under the coils, but internally, they the /a sleeve to keep it from leaking...That's the only way I could see making it better...I'm telling you guys, aluminum decks are the way to go, it's obvious bc it conducts do much better but I realized it making a voltmeter. I used a ss deck, (an inline meter, threaded into a 510) and it was like a full volt off almost, I bet you get 75% less loss with identical attys in ss and aluminum...minimum. ..


I can put a groove around the 510, and a slot out, just like that if you want bigger diameter, wider, deeper, however you want. What are you worrying about sorting (I think your referring to the worst case scenario, but elaborate please)

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IMO, if you can just have a sorta lip over the air holes on the thump (kinda like the rogue) while keeping every other element of the thump, that's the perfect atty for me.

I use a stubby drip tip and once in a while I find my fat lips blocking off some air unintentionally. Also if you have a habit of blowing into the atty, you'll get a nasty burst of hot air/juice onto your chin or upper lip


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...aluminum decks are the way to go...
Agreed. You build it and I am sure that more than a few of us would be in line for one or two or more. Preferably with a two post deck. Delrin cap. Delrin drip tip. Top air tubed to provide under coil air flow. 24mm for greater build space with a well deep enough to accomodate oversquonkers. Capped like the Vulcan to prevent blow back.

I can put a groove around the 510, and a slot out, just like that if you want bigger diameter, wider, deeper, however you want.
That would be awesome. A routed juice well also serves to break up the visual lines of the deck and can further detract the eye from atty markings for those who prefer to have the atty seated fully flush.

What are you worrying about s[h]orting (I think your referring to the worst case scenario, but elaborate please)

Condensation/juice flows to the 510 and allowed to pass through the threads and complete a circuit with the positive pin. Happens to me from time to time, particularly if an atty has been left to sit atop the mod overnight after chain vaping. If you prefer hot builds (e.g. 22g 316L twisted with 28g Ti) and the rate of condensation exceeds the rate of evaporation, then enough condensation begins to accumulate on the deck of the mod. Also, capturing juice overflow before it reaches the 510 potentially saves time by not having to remove the atty and clean its threads and those of the mod before continued use. Hence, the deep overflow well of the SMPL+ (and to a lesser extent, the Manhattan) mod...

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I can do that on your mod. Today looks looks like it's about 0.150in.ish..If you want I can do that, you want it that deep?

I've never felt / seen a short of which you speak, I would think that's just going to create a pocket to encourage condensation but I dunno, I've never used a mod with anything like it so I dunno really. It's gonna be a rocketship so ill do it however you want.
 
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IMO, if you can just have a sorta lip over the air holes on the thump (kinda like the rogue) while keeping every other element of the thump, that's the perfect atty for me.

I use a stubby drip tip and once in a while I find my fat lips blocking off some air unintentionally. Also if you have a habit of blowing into the atty, you'll get a nasty burst of hot air/juice onto your chin or upper lip


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Yeah your right, as usual, I love the lip, like on the rogue, recessing the holes, I used to blow into attys, dropped that habit with the vector, it's a fast teacher for sure. I think it even comes with a warning about that.
 
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I can do that on your mod. Today looks looks like it's about 0.150in.ish..If you want I can do that, you want it that deep?
That would be great. PM sent.
I've never felt / seen a short of which you speak...
Atty and cells get hot fast, but no vapor is emitted. Classic hard short.
 
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