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Up to you - says "authentic"...only place not out of stock -fasttech has 'em - single, 2-pack and 4-pack.
At almost $9 each, they're priced right around other site prices - my guess is they're legit.
If anyone orders them from fastech order me 3 2 packs and I will make it worth your while.

Also please notice 2 2 packs are cheaper than a 4 pack.....
Strike that last remark....
Ummmm. Derp....
 
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I tried to listen to the complaints about the LBC and make most of you happy. It's tough though because I will not give up performance. On my grave... At 50w the jr hits just as hard as the LBC; period... it comes down to wiring, stupid low internal resistance and the right battery. I'm not an artist by any stretch but I have been an electrician for 25 years I understand what it takes to get electricity to a coil with the least loss and at the end of the day that will give the best performance and best battery life.
Tom, can you explain to me what it means when you say the LBC & Jr 'hit harder' than some other mods? And does this apply to watts lower than 50w say 30w? I guess I'm wondering if there is a different output of volts or amps. I was thinking if you are using a regulated mod & set it at 50w then this will register x volts, x amps etc. Thanks in advance!
 
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Tom, can you explain to me what it means when you say the LBC & Jr 'hit harder' than some other mods? And does this apply to watts lower than 50w say 30w? I guess I'm wondering if there is a different output of volts or amps. I was thinking if you are using a regulated mod & set it at 50w then this will register x volts, x amps etc. Thanks in advance!

Tom (and others) will most likely chime in, but IME the reference to "hitting harder" pertains to the mod's circuitry being more efficient (ie, less voltage drop by the time the electrons get to the atty), as opposed to 'supercharging' the battery/chip output.

This is especially noticeable with mechs - the straight power of the battery being appreciably taxed with inefficient mods - but it's still in play with regulated mods. The display may say the same thing on two different mods, but the power delivered to the atty may be different, one "hitting harder".

If the inefficiency were linear, you would notice the 'tax' at any power setting - 30w, 50w, whatever - although the perceived effect might be lessened at lower power settings (eg, 10% of 60w is 6w, but only 3w at 30w, which you might not notice, at least not as much).
 

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Tom (and others) will most likely chime in, but IME the reference to "hitting harder" pertains to the mod's circuitry being more efficient (ie, less voltage drop by the time the electrons get to the atty), as opposed to 'supercharging' the battery/chip output.

This is especially noticeable with mechs - the straight power of the battery being appreciably taxed with inefficient mods - but it's still in play with regulated mods. The display may say the same thing on two different mods, but the power delivered to the atty may be different, one "hitting harder".

If the inefficiency were linear, you would notice the 'tax' at any power setting - 30w, 50w, whatever - although the perceived effect might be lessened at lower power settings (eg, 10% of 60w is 6w, but only 3w at 30w, which you might not notice, at least not as much).


Maybe I'm just hypersensitive to drop and power fluctuations. Try the LBC (sr) at 37w, take the same atty off of it and put it on another regulated (@37w) mod and see if you can tell a difference. I can. I have dna60/26650 mods that don't hit as hard at 60w as the LBC (sr) does at 40w. The dna60 is an extreme example but even when compared to a dna40 the only one to date that I have tried that comes close is the SVA Kimera. IMO it comes down wiring and contacts. Coil springs need not apply. When I made my first dna75 mod I used coil spring contacts and had low battery issues after just a few minutes of use and a weak vape all the way through. I tried better batteries and they helped a little but nothing like the LBC. I tried better contacts and the ultra high current 18650s and the vape improved but the battery life was still sub par. The improved contacts and the 20700 finally got me up to LBC (sr) levels of both impact and battery life. I also have a demo sx475j board (75w, 9.5v output) and it hits even harder depending on settings with the same contacts so I feel the contacts are no longer the limiting factor. With the 20700 (30a) the battery is also no longer the limiting factor so we are able to see the full capabilities of the dna75 and sx475, the boards are now the weakest link just like in the LBC. In my not so humble opinion the dna75/sx475 needs more than a single 18650 can supply if you wish to use it for 40w or more.
 
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Hmmm - how much were the 22's??
 
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