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And vape shops. No more vape shops.
I WOULD think we'd see a proliferation of "flashlight stores" - but that won't work, because they can't compete with flashlights from China.

I know I'll be able to keep getting my soap ingredients, food flavoring, and rechargeable batteries.
I just hope I can still get Nicotine - it's an excellent pesticide.
We DO want to come up with a good descriptive name for those flashlight attachments that have holes in the bottom...

It wouldn't be the worst idea you have had. It would seem most of it goes after the juice companies.
 

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Won't Nude Nic custom blend with the addition of PG if desired and also do custom nic levels? I believe you had said that they will do this custom blending in larger sizes at a significant cost savings?
Yup.... Along with the flavors I ordered a liter of 8mg 15/85 pg/vg. Ready to go, no mixing. You have to call them if you want to get all fancy though. If you can live with 3,6, or 12mg and 30/70 you can do it without the phone call. I'm a pain in the .... and I want what I want (A huge part of why I started this in the first place). I will say however you can also buy liters premixed with flavors as well but the price doubles. $42 for my liter, $75 if I have them add flavor; I got the feeling they weren't too into selling pre-mixed w/flavors. My next order will be for 4 liters the same way along with a liter of 100mg for the when the Feds forward their agenda. Pray/vote for a non-establishment president and we might be able to vape a few years from now. I'm not trying to turn this into a political debate, there are forums for that already in place, I just felt it needed to be mentioned.
 

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Rick & Tom..if I may. Maybe a guy who still wants the LBC but doesn't have the money ready when it's due can move down the list instead of being taken entirely off the list. This way he still maintains his chance to get it, and Tom doesn't end up losing.
Yes... That's what is going on with a few people and part of the reason I posted the top 25 vs the top 10 or 20. I understand life happens and not all of you can spit out 425 or 450 on demand. My request however if you don't really want it and plan to follow through don't take up space on the list and make me keep emailing you. I'm a big boy, you are big boys and girls if you need to bail altogether just say so, If it happens enough times I may even get a little cranky....
 

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Yes... That's what is going on with a few people and part of the reason I posted the top 25 vs the top 10 or 20. I understand life happens and not all of you can spit out 425 or 450 on demand. My request however if you don't really want it and plan to follow through don't take up space on the list and make me keep emailing you. I'm a big boy, you are big boys and girls if you need to bail altogether just say so, If it happens enough times I may even get a little cranky....

Tom.. is the LBC going to be serialized? If so, peeps on spot 8 or 18 willing to swap #s?
 

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One more issue in regards to the "Deeming Regulations" as it pertains to both the LBC and other mods using high power boards. In the regulations there are mentions to the regard of a device having the ability to burn not just "produce vapor" will fall into an even more scrutinous catagory. I have a feeling the mods and boards for that matter are going to change to lower power all in the name of regulation. I forsee in 5 years we will be back to 8-12 watt devices. Who knows maybe the LBC will be the next pre 1980 colt m16.
 

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If so, I'd love #3.

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I really hadn't planned on serializing them, I suppose I could but, they are all at the anodizers shop now and if I was to serialize them it would be post anodize which would leave the engraved area raw aluminum.
 
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One more issue in regards to the "Deeming Regulations" as it pertains to both the LBC and other mods using high power boards. In the regulations there are mentions to the regard of a device having the ability to burn not just "produce vapor" will fall into an even more scrutinous catagory. I have a feeling the mods and boards for that matter are going to change to lower power all in the name of regulation. I forsee in 5 years we will be back to 8-12 watt devices. Who knows maybe the LBC will be the next pre 1980 colt m16.
Shiite [emoji52] just when I started switching to higher wattages and DLHs


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I really hadn't planned on serializing them, I suppose I could but, they are all at the anodizers shop now and if I was to serialize them it would be post anodize which would leave the engraved area raw aluminum.
Yeah, and the numbers I'd want probably would not be my colors anyway, lol.

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And vape shops. No more vape shops.
I WOULD think we'd see a proliferation of "flashlight stores" - but that won't work, because they can't compete with flashlights from China.

I know I'll be able to keep getting my soap ingredients, food flavoring, and rechargeable batteries.
I just hope I can still get Nicotine - it's an excellent pesticide.
We DO want to come up with a good descriptive name for those flashlight attachments that have holes in the bottom...

I don't see vape shops going away. Since 2010 it has been illegal to ship tobacco products. Up until now juice, cigars, and pipe tobacco were NOT considered tobacco products, now they are. Again shipping tobacco products is illegal... Now we have been classified as using tobacco products, that will have huge ramifications that most haven't previously considered. Guess what? In regards to all of your insurances (health, life, other) with a stroke of a pen you are ALL smokers again.

Vape Shops and conventions will be bigger than ever. Maybe I will have to travel to meet and greets and do all the conventions, personally I think it would be awesome to meet all of you one on one.
 

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I'm referring to the deeming specifically stating that a vape shop mixing juice IS a manufacturer, and would need to get the same approvals as friggin NJOY or Blue will - at a cost of like a million bucks per flavor to lawyers for paperwork....blah blah. I know it's insane, but that's what it says.

Without in-house juice, MANY vape shops die.
And they're easier to find and fine than the people ordering stuff online...



I don't see vape shops going away. Since 2010 it has been illegal to ship tobacco products. Up until now juice, cigars, and pipe tobacco were NOT considered tobacco products, now they are. Again shipping tobacco products is illegal... Now we have been classified as using tobacco products, that will have huge ramifications that most haven't previously considered. Guess what? In regards to all of your insurances (health, life, other) with a stroke of a pen you are ALL smokers again.

Vape Shops and conventions will be bigger than ever. Maybe I will have to travel to meet and greets and do all the conventions, personally I think it would be awesome to meet all of you one on one.
 
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China is having a party as we speak.
Actually, I think Chinese commerce will be largely unaffected - it's just that new vapers won't see the stuff in shops or ads anywhere, so more people will keep smoking and die. Good job, FDA.

Hopefully they've learned from previous fiascos that intercepting packages is a fail...then again, no. Not capable of learning, so they might try that again. Should be entertaining. We'll have to keep an eye out for that.

What about chinese imports? Tanks, RDAs? Are we gonna buy $300 clones??


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Yes... That's what is going on with a few people and part of the reason I posted the top 25 vs the top 10 or 20. I understand life happens and not all of you can spit out 425 or 450 on demand. My request however if you don't really want it and plan to follow through don't take up space on the list and make me keep emailing you. I'm a big boy, you are big boys and girls if you need to bail altogether just say so, If it happens enough times I may even get a little cranky....


yeah i was to quick to bail man,i hope i havent been booted just yet,i may be able to come up with the rest of the coin needed.we still have a few or 3 weeks im guessing....hoping anyways.good idea with the bump down the list insteada off the list.
 

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Yup.... Along with the flavors I ordered a liter of 8mg 15/85 pg/vg. Ready to go, no mixing. You have to call them if you want to get all fancy though. If you can live with 3,6, or 12mg and 30/70 you can do it without the phone call. I'm a pain in the .... and I want what I want (A huge part of why I started this in the first place). I will say however you can also buy liters premixed with flavors as well but the price doubles. $42 for my liter, $75 if I have them add flavor; I got the feeling they weren't too into selling pre-mixed w/flavors. My next order will be for 4 liters the same way along with a liter of 100mg for the when the Feds forward their agenda. Pray/vote for a non-establishment president and we might be able to vape a few years from now. I'm not trying to turn this into a political debate, there are forums for that already in place, I just felt it needed to be mentioned.
Thank you Tom! Exactly the information I was looking for:thumbs: Time to develope a relationship with Nude Nic ;)

I've always leaned toward the non-establishment side ;)
 

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Standing by and ready. ( and if the LBC is going to turn out like I think it's going to, you can cancel that nasty e-mail to the dog...;))

Agreed, and waiting for the list to re-open so I can add myself.

Please add me to the LBC list. Thanks

I believe the LBC list is currently closed, but will re-open once Tom has built and shipped the first 20 LBC's and we can add ourselves.

... Again shipping tobacco products is illegal... Now we have been classified as using tobacco products, that will have huge ramifications that most haven't previously considered...

Maybe I will have to travel to meet and greets and do all the conventions, personally I think it would be awesome to meet all of you one on one.

I buy all my Cigars & Pipe Tobacco's on-line, guess they have a Big Brother/ FED GOV exception... this comprises ~80-85% of my juices, Coffee and some Vanilla, DIYed, are 10-15% and the rest is just PG/VG/NIC with some Peppermint or Wintergreen, guess I'll experiment with Spearmint leaves, shouldn't be too different from Tobacco.

I'd think the meet & greets would be a minimum of 10-15 at a time, I'm sure the Facebook crowd may trickle by as well.
 
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