Cloud chasing and sub ohm foolishness
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Yeah I agree. I have to admit I'm part of that big-cloud culture among Pinoys, but thanks to ECF, I understand what I'm doing (I don't have many vaper friends and I turn to ECF for most info I need). I'm quite concerned though about kids who just want to show off big clouds. It's like the visual thing is the only important part of vaping to them. I met one kid who even boasted how he could do "bastusan" a sort-of competition of who blows the biggest cloud against an opponent's face. They can exhale vapor enough to conceal a small person. To paraphrase someone earlier in this thread, you won't be surprised to hear young folks saying "I can haz sum biiiig cloudz?" Seeing the local forums and buy-and-sell pages, you can tell that many of these young folks know little about the risks of flashy, big-cloud vaping. They certainly have to be cautioned more.
*By "kid" I refer to people younger than me, in their late teens or early 20s.
Better nicotine hit, more satisfying, warmer vapor. At least that's what I've been experiencing.
I built a roof on a water reservoir just before you get to Laguna and if Im with in a hrs drive I stop in at Ecig City. But Ive never went to the beaches there.
Noticed this last night. I classify this as YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE.....
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I'm curious as to how the short was caused. Part of preventing the problem is figuring out how they come to exist. If you would, could you try to isolate where it's shorted out? <joke> You could probably take the piece of aluminum foil out from the 510 connector now.</joke>
I'm curious as to how the short was caused. Part of preventing the problem is figuring out how they come to exist. If you would, could you try to isolate where it's shorted out? <joke> You could probably take the piece of aluminum foil out from the 510 connector now.</joke>
You must be crazy if you think that's me. I'm stupid in many areas but I'd never take a coil below .9
I really hope this was a joke and haven't checked this page again but people commenting were all for it.
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And you think that the only way to do that is sub-ohm?
Try 30 ga wire on the proper VV, for example.
THAT is what I was afraid you were going to say.....
pplZeroD...you're either deflecting the issue, or jumping to a conclusion. ....
I'll say this once again, if you give a good description of the coil and wicking setup you have in mind, vs only the wire gauge you use, I'd be more than willing to try it. I've tried a bunch of coils on the "standard" side of things and I've only been mildly satisfied. I've been able to lower my nicotine levels and have an overall more pleasant vape with subohm stuff.
THAT is what I was afraid you were going to say.....
ZeroD...you're either deflecting the issue, or jumping to a conclusion. ....
I was making an assumption that this was a subohm setup that went wrong. Pardon me for having the engineer in me wonder what went wrong in an attempt to make known setting the coil up a certain way would lead to failure.
As for why.. It is simple, there will always be people who try to test limits. It's like car tuners... you have those that work in the bounds of the engines and such, but there is a subculture that will put a turbo big enough that it could power a F1 rocket motor... all in an attempt to get 1000 hp out of a little 4 banger so they can show off at the local car night. Usually they end up on YouTube when the engine grenades and showers the garage in motor oil....
OMG. Deflecting again. You wind it so you like it. It's subjective, and also varies depending on the device(s) used.
In my case, today, it's 2.0 ohms, 30 ga coil on silica in an RBA @ 4.8v. But YMMV. It's not cloud chasing, but it can be an ADV setup. I could go lower ohms if I wished, or play with so called "micro coils".
Whatever.
In my case, today, it's 2.0 ohms, 30 ga coil on silica in an RBA @ 4.8v. But YMMV. It's not cloud chasing, but it can be an ADV setup. I could go lower ohms if I wished, or play with so called "micro coils".
Whatever.
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Vapor volume and response. Nothing can really touch what deep subohm coils can do, microcoils included. But I don't really vape much subohm personally, the way I've been building results in about 1 ohm give or take a few points. Because of the extended capabilities of the DNA 20, I can push power to levels usually found with higher subohm. It's tedious to keep dripping and chops through juice in no time!
BTW IMO you don't really start cookin' with subohm until under .5 ohm.
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All that is exactly what we used to say about higher voltage. (other than the less than .5 ohms)
I'm not entirely sure how I'm deflecting.
I agree that if the coil was intended to have such a low impedance, something unintended will happen. I just assumed that this was not the case and a failure happened. I was giviing them the benefit of the doubt. Sounds very similar to what I used to run as an ADV myself. Personally I was very skeptical with the whole microcoil fad for various logical reasons that varied from safety to heat concentration. But hey, I tried it. I liked it. YMMV.
Except it actually happens with subohm lol
High voltage was mistakenly believed to achieve those things when devices did not have the ability to power larger coils. So high resistance coils that operated efficiently did produce more vapor than low resistance coils that were unable to be fed enough power.
I don't believe rebuilding was much of a thing back when that was the prevailing wisdom, so longer coils were not widely available.
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In my opinion as an electrical engineer with that information combined with personal vaping experiences, it really comes down to power throughput, and with a subohm coil you have less material to heat which allows you to get a higher temperature overall and get there faster.
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In my opinion as an electrical engineer looking at that information combined with personal vaping experiences, it really comes down to power throughput, and with a subohm coil you have less material to heat which allows you to get a higher temperature overall and get there faster.
You have WAY more material to heat with a subohm coil ...
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