Cloud chasing tips and tricks thread

[valooper]

Okay so I have been doing alot of research around the net and I really cant find one source with all the tips and tricks layed out in english

But what are some tricks amd tips from you real vloud chasers out there I am talking things like

The mod
The atty
Inhale
Exhale
juice
Coil desgin
Airflow
Drip tip design

Just all the ultimate cloud chasing stuff should be posted here

My current cloud chasing set up is

A paragon mod with .7 v drop
With igo-6
Built to .2 ohm with quad coils
And 100% percent straight vg

I know I know this needs alot of work especially on the coils

What are your guys ideas and tips and tricks?

**edit** thats not 100% vg in the pic its my 100% vg diy banana cream oooooo yeah!

 

[valooper]

 

[Sarin]

Excellent airflow is a definite need when chasing clouds along with a good set of lungs Multiple 3mm holes are the order of the day.

 

[valooper]

Excellent airflow is a definite need when chasing clouds along with a good set of lungs Multiple 3mm holes are the order of the day.

Now your talking on a dual coil set up?

 

[valooper]

 

[valooper]

 

[valooper]

 

[valooper]

 

[valooper]

 

[valooper]

Kuddos to Baditude he always does this lol

See, this is the reason I asked the above questions. Knowing the amp limit of your battery is CRITICAL information when you build a sub-ohm coil for cloud chasing. You didn't have the info necessary to sub-ohm safely. You have no business cloud chasing yet.

You need to do more research before you cloud chase. Not knowing what you are doing is dangerous. First learn to build some normal resistance coils; once you have that perfected then you can try something below 1.0 ohm. (BTW, your Sony VTC4 has a 30 amp rating.)

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/583531-beginners-ignorance-sub-ohm-vaping.html

Cloud Chasing is Dangerous

Why is Cloud Chasing Dangerous

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Battery Basics for Mods

Information Resources for Your First RBA

Mechanical Mod Safe Useage Guide

1.0 ohm = 4.2 amp draw
0.9 ohm = 4.6 amp draw
0.8 ohm = 5.2 amp draw
0.7 ohms = 6 amp draw
0.6 ohms = 7 amp draw
0.5 ohms = 8.4 amp draw
0.4 ohms = 10.5 amp draw
0.3 ohms = 14.0 amp draw
0.2 ohms = 21.0 amp draw
0.1 ohms = 42.0 amp draw

Ohm's Law for Dummies

 

[valooper]

Nobody lol?

 

[tayone415]

Okay so I have been doing alot of research around the net and I really cant find one source with all the tips and tricks layed out in english

But what are some tricks amd tips from you real vloud chasers out there I am talking things like

The mod
The atty
Inhale
Exhale
Juice
Coil desgin
Airflow
Drip tip design

Just all the ultimate cloud chasing stuff should be posted here

My current cloud chasing set up is

A paragon mod with .7 v drop
With igo-6
Built to .2 ohm with quad coils
And 100% percent straight vg

I know I know this needs alot of work especially on the coils

What are your guys ideas and tips and tricks?

**edit** thats not 100% vg in the pic its my 100% vg diy banana cream oooooo yeah!

.7 seriously? I got a .42-.47 voltage drop with my authentic copper vanilla with the brass caps with an authentic patriot v.1.2 at a .14 or.16 ohm build, now I'm scared to test my authentic Paragon v2 LE midnight edition.

 

[valooper]

.7 seriously? I got a .42-.47 voltage drop with my authentic copper vanilla with the brass caps with an authentic patriot v.1.2 at a .14 or.16 ohm build, now I'm scared to test my authentic Paragon v2 LE midnight edition.

I do have to double check my numbers it was before I cleaned it up and we are more or less talking ball park figure there I will report back!

 

[tayone415]

I do have to double check my numbers it was before I cleaned it up and we are more or less talking ball park figure there I will report back!

That seems high IMO, my v2 Paragon hits harder than my Vanilla and I tested the Vanilla when it was brand new.

 

[tayone415]

A single tube mod with good threads.
Upgrading the spring or magnets.
Inhale/Exhale Technique
As high of a VG mixture as possible, the only way to get 100 VG is 100% pure unflavored VG without nicotine and undiluted.
The right air to heat ratio (airflow is key) air holes can't be too small or too big, if drilling out 1/8 minimum
Wide bore drip tip
Batteries, some pack more of a punch and have better drop offs
Surface area of the coils
The type of resistance wires, lower gauge kanthal heats up hotter and has more surface area, other low resistance wires gives much lower resistance so more wraps can be added to add surface area and still have very low ohms.
The proper wicking is just as important as a good coil build.
The atty and the connections
Clean threading and contacts, and everything in the switch assembly being clean and without patina.

Knowing how to get low resistance with lots of surface area is key. Low ohms itself won't get you big clouds, like many people think.

Safety Tips:

Must have an ohm reader
An ohm calculator
A 30+ continuous amp IMR battery
voltage tester
A good smart charger

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Wicking performance needs to be added to your list of important points for blowing clouds.

I'm no electronics wizard but I would also like to suggest a section on measuring resistance below 1.5 ohms that results in a more accurate result than our current little meters can provide. +/-0.15 ohm is kinda sketchy in my opinion. Even top of the line Fluke meters have a pretty low ability to measure sub-ohm coils with any real accuracy.

For some fun information overload check this out How to Measure Low Resistances - Robot Room

Fluke has this to say Low ohms measurements you can trust
Maurice

 

[valooper]

Now this is purely something I have been thinking about do you think besides cotton to coil surface area and contact do you think the way you wick is important purely for cloud chasing?

Because I mean after 1 pull yout done and not trying to have it wick anthing?

 

[valooper]

All you really need is juice to vaporize nothing more? Obviously you couldn't go wickless cause all you would do is flood but I am thinking if your not dry after your pull its to much cotton and its just blocking air flow at that point?

 

[valooper]

Wicking performance needs to be added to your list of important points for blowing clouds.

I'm no electronics wizard but I would also like to suggest a section on measuring resistance below 1.5 ohms that results in a more accurate result than our current little meters can provide. +/-0.15 ohm is kinda sketchy in my opinion. Even top of the line Fluke meters have a pretty low ability to measure sub-ohm coils with any real accuracy.

For some fun information overload check this out How to Measure Low Resistances - Robot Room

Fluke has this to say Low ohms measurements you can trust
Maurice

Good post I need to build that

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Now this is purely something I have been thinking about do you think besides cotton to coil surface area and contact do you think the way you wick is important purely for cloud chasing?

Because I mean after 1 pull yout done and not trying to have it wick anthing?

Yes I do, e-liquid is vaporized in high quantity in cloud chasing; so much so that it isn't practical to hold enough of it at the coil to produce a dense vapor in any way without juice movement in the wick medium.

Over wick and you get bad results, under wick and you get bad results.

Optimal wicking is such that juice flow equals vaporization rate. There is a really fine line here that is easily crossed. If you want to improve the clouds you make wicking performance is certainly something that needs close consideration.

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Coil type and orientation heavily effect how you'll wick, and to some extent if the coil position makes wicking impossible that position can be crossed off the list as a cloud chasing position entirely.

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Wick material choice can have a huge impact on cloud chasing too, solid mesh and cable have a lot of ability to back as heat sinks, and that can inhibit flow; a sharp difference in temperature across the length of a wick helps flow, where as a more uniform temperature slows flow of liquids.

Remember flow tends to move from high pressure to low pressure, heat tends to reduce pressure and cold increases it.

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Good luck

Maurice