Are Cloud Chasers Posers?

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Oberon75

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I take slow, deep lung hits, hold and exhale very little vapor. I vape for nicotine and flavor, though, not for show...
And I get far more flavor and nicotine. It's not for show. I'm 40 years old with a wife and two kids. What exactly am I trying to show off?

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You're a courteous cloud chaser that respects others. The problem is with the cloud chasers that feel like they can blow huge clouds anywhere, just because it's not smoke.

I think part of it is the 'need' to show others they are superior for not smoking cigarettes... Look at me, I'm vaping, not smoking...I can't imagine it would be to attract ladies; at least not the types I would have any interest in...
 

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Says the guy who never tried it. It's like a shot of bourbon instead of a light beer.

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Myself, I've tried sub ohm vaping many times ... however, I just can't change a 35 year smoking style to where I am taking massive puffs deep into my lungs.

I never lung hit cigarettes ... and my current vape setup provides me a much better smoking experience than cigarettes ever did.

but then again ... I was never into funnelling beers either.

I just drink em normal :toast:
 

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I think part of it is the 'need' to show others they are superior for not smoking cigarettes... Look at me, I'm vaping, not smoking...I can't imagine it would be to attract ladies; at least not the types I would have any interest in...
Like the $200+ mod you have that could be in Men in Black?

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    Also…who do we think keeps the doors open at those vape shops, so that I can have the convenience of buying juice and batteries and cotton three miles from my house instead of ordering everything online? Who buys the majority of the stuff every week that helps them keep the lights on and the employees paid? The person with the eGo who just needs coils and juice once a month? Or the vaping hobbyist (or "cloud chaser") who has disposable income and who hangs out there every week and just has to have the newest setup and the RBA that he's been watching video reviews of? Especially since I'm thrifty and more likely to try a setup at the B&M and buy it cheaper online…I'm glad to see people hanging out at the vape shop every week showing off their new builds and buying all the new gear, because they're helping support the business that I benefit from too.

    I agree this is probably true, but should it be true? There should be so many more small users that it still adds up to a substantial portion -- IF small users aren't scared away. Actually I don't blame the shops for not catering better to newbies, I think few venture in anyway, almost everyone starts where they bought cigs, or anonymous through the 'net .
     

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    Myself, I've tried sub ohm vaping many times ... however, I just can't change a 35 year smoking style to where I am taking massive puffs deep into my lungs.

    I never lung hit cigarettes ... and my current vape setup provides me a much better smoking experience than cigarettes ever did.

    but then again ... I was never into funnelling beers either.

    I just drink em normal :toast:
    And I smoked mouth to lung for 25 years. I couldn't quit using something that simulates smoking. I needed something completely different then smoking with a much better delivery method then a standard setup. I live with a smoker and vaping 24mg on 10 to 20w devices with a Nautilus and Kayfun still had me smoking about three quarters of a pack every day. Not to mention high nic juice doesn't taste pleasant. The day I bought an IPV and Atlantis was the last day I ever smoked.

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    And I smoked mouth to lung for 25 years. I couldn't quit using something that simulates smoking. I needed something completely different then smoking with a much better delivery method then a standard setup. I live with a smoker and vaping 24mg on 10 to 20w devices with a Nautilus and Kayfun still had me smoking about three quarters of a pack every day. Not to mention high nic juice doesn't taste pleasant. The day I bought an IPV and Atlantis was the last day I ever smoked.

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    Not everyone is like you. While this works for you, most "cloud chasers" do it because they WANT to, not because they have to. A lot of ones I know are former smokers who have kicked the habit and are now in it because they like it and want to push the envelope on vaping. Just chill out and take a few more puffs. Have a drink, and take a walk or something.
     

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    Seeing the smoke/vapor exhaled from your lungs is a big part of the ritual, just as important, if not more so, than the nicotine itself, for people anyways... this guy likes to hold it in:

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    Not everyone is like you. While this works for you, most "cloud chasers" do it because they WANT to, not because they have to. A lot of ones I know are former smokers who have kicked the habit and are now in it because they like it and want to push the envelope on vaping. Just chill out and take a few more puffs. Have a drink, and take a walk or something.
    Then why do I know many people who quit the same way as I? I know quite a few people who could not stop until they dove into something more advanced.

    If what you are saying is true, everybody would be using cloud competition attys like the Mutation X and Doge. None of us would be using attys like the Aeolus and Derringer which put any tank including the Kayfun to shame when it comes to flavor.

    I just think it's BS that setups that produce more clouds then low wattage devices are for people trying to show off.

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    Then why do I know many people who quit the same way as I? I know quite a few people who could not stop until they dove into something more advanced.

    If what you are saying is true, everybody would be using cloud competition attys like the Mutation X and Doge. None of us would be using attys like the Aeolus and Derringer which put any tank including the Kayfun to shame when it comes to flavor.

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    Not trying to argue with you. I cannot speak for anyone but myself and what I see. But that doesn't mean that anything that I don't see is not truth as well. Cloud chasing does not necessarily mean competing. I love to drip. I love to build, and I love to vape. I recently put away my drippers for a Subtank due to ease of use. The world comes in many flavors and many opinions. If you want people to respect your opinion, you have to respect the opinions of others as well.
     

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    Not trying to argue with you. I cannot speak for anyone but myself and what I see. But that doesn't mean that anything that I don't see is not truth as well. Cloud chasing does not necessarily mean competing. I love to drip. I love to build, and I love to vape. I recently put away my drippers for a Subtank due to ease of use. The world comes in many flavors and many opinions. If you want people to respect your opinion, you have to respect the opinions of others as well.
    I've been trying to respect people's opinions for months. It was actually within the last few days that I got fed up with their arrogance and stereotypes and started defending like I am. I was going to just leave but a few people asked me not to.

    I mean what they are saying doesn't even make sense. Especially when the most proven flavor chasers on the market are designed for 26g kanthal or lower. This is not something you are using on a 10 to 20w mod.

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    Seeing the smoke/vapor exhaled from your lungs is a big part of the ritual, just as important, if not more so, than the nicotine itself, for people anyways..

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    This is sooooo true. The first time I tried quitting using the blu cartomizers, it didn't work and I quickly went back to smoking. It was just too difficult to draw with it, and the amount of vapor was so minimal, I could never quit. The blu Plus+ tanks was a godsend because the draw was much easier and the amount of vapor it produced on the exhale simulated the sensation of smoking much more. That enabled me to quit cigarettes and get by on vaping only.
     

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    I have to say in the proper time and place who cares if someone is a cloud chaser. I'm fairly new to vaping as I tried the little ego blister pack ecigs several times. At one point I was up to almost 4 packs a day with analogs as I see them called. I have to say when I went into my first real shop and saw the huge plumes I thought it was really cool. Then realized why the cheap units didn't work for me. I didn't get enough from them. Now I'm looking into something to sub ohm with just because when I feel the need I can fill a room with a huge cloud because I want to do so. I'm polite about vaping I don't think that I should offed someone just because it's not tobacco smoke and treat the vape like a real cig as I feel people deserve that respect.
     

    alicewonderland

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    I have to say in the proper time and place who cares if someone is a cloud chaser. I'm fairly new to vaping as I tried the little ego blister pack ecigs several times. At one point I was up to almost 4 packs a day with analogs as I see them called. I have to say when I went into my first real shop and saw the huge plumes I thought it was really cool. Then realized why the cheap units didn't work for me. I didn't get enough from them. Now I'm looking into something to sub ohm with just because when I feel the need I can fill a room with a huge cloud because I want to do so. I'm polite about vaping I don't think that I should offed someone just because it's not tobacco smoke and treat the vape like a real cig as I feel people deserve that respect.



    just make sure you know all the in n outs if you chose to subohm on a mech mod:) i agree the huge vapor is attractive and very helpful in quitting smoking, but it is HIGHLY reccommended that you learn about ohms law, and do research. Subohming on a mech is fine as long as you know what you are doing, subohming on vv/vw devices is what i reccomend though, because most have safety measures built in, in case something DOES go wrong, you are protected. (dna40 devices in particular I know have this safety failsafes)
     

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    What a silly, silly conversation from my perspective.

    I come from smoking cigars, until 2013 when I started vaping. I mean gentlemen's clubs that cost $250 a year membership just for the privilege of being able to enjoy a good cigar with other professionals that enjoyed the same in high backed leather chairs and live jazz quartets in the evenings for a subtlety posh ambiance . Of course there was world class beers and single malts served by very attentive hostesses, which was a nice bonus. But the point is, never once was I in a conversation with another member critiquing the way another member smoked his $25 Opus X. It just wasn't important.

    Some liked to billow big clouds of luscious Dominican tobacco while others exhaled wisps of Jamaican heaven. It wasn't a thing to judge another's smoking style. It just didn't matter. Didn't matter at all. We were there to enjoy a good cigar in our own way while we discussed politics, stock markets, football, and everything else under the sun. How someone else enjoyed their smoke just wasn't important. We all enjoyed our own.

    I guess I just don't see vaping as any different and never have. I vape the way I vape and others do the same. We all get what we want out of it and I just have never felt the need to judge. Why would I? I got mine and you got yours. The only thing I miss in local vape shops is the pretty hostesses, the high back leather chairs, and the single malts. Maybe someday there will be gentlemen vaping clubs. A guy can dream can't he?

    Bottom line? We all enjoy what we enjoy in the way of vaping. There is no right way. But to judge another based on your own preconceived idea of the "proper" way of vaping is divisive and certainly harms either your own enjoyment or the enjoyment of your fellow vaper.
     
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    If i do what i want to do with my life to my fullest then im a poser. If you dont like it, then thats YOUR problem!!

    But please continue to let us free people to continue to live rent free in your mind and fuel your judgmental, narcissistic and narrow mind. Because everything you do, also makes you a poser.

    I dont care why you started this thread, you already made up your mind, because you are looking for validation.


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    Some of us are so addicted, we need much more then that. I can't vape something that emulates a cigarette or I'm smoking. I need a nice cloud loaded with flavor and nicotine

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    This^
    I have been a member of different internet forums (politics, current events, gun forums, etc) for almost 20 years now. I have to say, without a doubt, ECF is the most judgmental forum I have ever been involved with.

    People are judged on what they vape, how they vape, whether or not they have tattoos, their age, their hairstyle, how they dress, facial hair, and the list goes on. And of course, if someone has a different opinion than most, whether they are on this forum or not....then they are dismissed as stupid, idiots, ......, etc.

    Sorry for the rant, but this crap lately about people that vape differently than you, vape higher wattages than you, or exhale more vapor than you, is getting to be a bit much.

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    We must not read the same threads! I find the "whatever gets you to your happy place" crowd much bigger than the "you're not doing it right" folks!!
    ^doesn't change the fact

    0.2 ohm @ 50mg max vg ADED... posing properly... ;)

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    I wouldn't judge any fellow vaper based on their hardware, but I have to admit that I remain suspicious of cloud chasers.

    You are right to be suspicious of cloud chasers, they're secretly planning to take over the world. I overheard one say the takeover was starting soon, so make sure your tinfoil hat is nearby at all times.

    Besides making big clouds, what benefit does cloud chasing give somebody?

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    I read that in some cloud chasing competitions, the contestents use 100% VG unflavored. So it's certainly not the taste that these people are after
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    You misunderstood, it's Unflavored liquid, with a capital U. It tastes exactly like nothing.

    So, is it all just about blowing big clouds and showing off? Basically being a poser?

    They're just trying to compensate for the small size of their tube mods. Just so you know, I have a very large telescopic tube mod. I still blow clouds now and then though, but strictly for scientific purposes in a controlled environment (My living room).

    I just want to be clear, I'm not trying to be judgemental toward anyone. I hope no individual person, or group of people, find my post offensive. I would hope that this post is equally offensive to everyone.

    Thanks for playing. [/STUPIDITY]
     
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