Are Cloud Chasers Posers?
- Thread starter IgnorantCig
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
If you know what you are doing, sure. But there are people who have difficulty building a simple coil on a Lemo.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition
I beg to differ..... There is a lot of skill involved in building good cloud chaser coils.........
No skill involved in that?
Or how about building a cloud producer on a limited device, say an istick 20w that has a 1 ohm limitation? That takes knowing the proper gauge and diameter ID to get the ideal heat flux out of your build. If its not something you know or care to know that's fine, but don't pretend there is no skill involved, and don't pretend that people pushing the envelope to get the most out of their gear hasn't effected the vape world in a positive way by bringing innovation to the gear we have available.
You could say that about many builds that require more effort and time to make than other builds. Most would just be copying videos they watch or using the steam coil wrap site to figure out their build just like almost everyone else vaping.
Most any build takes some skill or knowledge its blowing out vapor that takes no skill.
I consider building a coil to be part of vaping in general.
The skill is vaping and building in general , some can say they did it for larger amounts of vapor others can say they did it for more flavour or another reason.
From what I've seen, that is mostly the case. The gas stations around here (especially the sketchier ones that also sell "tobacco pipes" made out of blown glass and "incense" that is marked "not for consumption") also sell no-name ego setups that are bedazzled and neon colored and pasted with Hello Kitty and flaming skull stickers and camo patterns, and disposables like Njoy and other BT brands. Those are the ones that "kids" are vaping, because they can't even get into the vape shops around here to buy anything. Even the vape shop where I sometimes hang out, where everyone knows me and where I am obviously middle aged cards me when I buy stuff because the regulations on them are tight around here and they all want to avoid a hassle. They take the ID with every purchase, just like the ABC stores and tobacco stores do, regardless of how old you look. So unless a "kid" has a fake ID, they're not buying anything there.
The "cloud chasers" around here are overwhelmingly 20-something soldiers, since this is a military town. Also, I guess, what some posters would consider "hipsters", the tattooed, alternative crowd that works in the arts or service industry.
Also who do we think keeps the doors open at those vape shops, so that I can have the convenience of buying juice and batteries and cotton three miles from my house instead of ordering everything online? Who buys the majority of the stuff every week that helps them keep the lights on and the employees paid? The person with the eGo who just needs coils and juice once a month? Or the vaping hobbyist (or "cloud chaser") who has disposable income and who hangs out there every week and just has to have the newest setup and the RBA that he's been watching video reviews of? Especially since I'm thrifty and more likely to try a setup at the B&M and buy it cheaper online I'm glad to see people hanging out at the vape shop every week showing off their new builds and buying all the new gear, because they're helping support the business that I benefit from too.
I think we're loosing sight of vaping as a whole. There's enthusiasts within every product, like every single product. There's also different degrees of how serious you are.
A lot of us used to smoke cigarettes for the feeling and we just left it at that. Some people smoked tobacco out of pipes or hand rolled cigarettes and made it a relaxing ritual.
Poser really isn't the right word either. It's more of an enthusiast. Of course there are "posers", but a lot of people are not.
And just my own comment on the skill thing. I feel the skill involved is a lot more than making a coil, which isn't difficult with practice. The skill comes from the way you use it, wick it, and the new ideas for for a working coil and wick. There are a few members here who have some really great ideas and a lot of the skill involved is from knowing all the inner workings of how everything comes into play
A lot of us used to smoke cigarettes for the feeling and we just left it at that. Some people smoked tobacco out of pipes or hand rolled cigarettes and made it a relaxing ritual.
Poser really isn't the right word either. It's more of an enthusiast. Of course there are "posers", but a lot of people are not.
And just my own comment on the skill thing. I feel the skill involved is a lot more than making a coil, which isn't difficult with practice. The skill comes from the way you use it, wick it, and the new ideas for for a working coil and wick. There are a few members here who have some really great ideas and a lot of the skill involved is from knowing all the inner workings of how everything comes into play
Last edited:
That's pretty much how it is here as well and it's a shame because even if vaping is highly regulated, these stores will find loopholes to continue getting these products to kids just like they do with dangerous synthetic products when they label them, "not for human consumption".
And the B&M scene here is very similar to how you described although when they have events, it's a very diverse crowd consisting of all ages ranging from 18 to their 60's. I once even saw somebody who looked well their 70's sitting in a juice shop.
Back before the industry blew up with all these advanced devices, vape shops did not exist and the only place to even find a small selection of vape products was in a tobacco store. If vaping started like it is now, nobody would even be calling them "eCigarettes" which IMO does a lot of harm for our cause.
These places are very strict about who comes through their door and I once saw them tell a middle age father his son could not come in with him when he was buying some juice.
If these shops, devices, cloud events, card games, etc keeps these younger vapors out of the bars, binge drinking with games of beer pong and then getting behind the wheel after, that's great. Vaping is saving lives in more ways then one. And it's also these same shop owners, juice makers, employees and even customers who are down at city hall, the county building and the state capital, fighting proposed legislations. They are doing a lot more then just joining an online activism site and e-signing a few petitions and our local vape scene forms a small army to speak out against proposed regulations.
And without people using higher watts and more juice, we wouldn't have all of these great vendors and unique flavors. Some of which are ECF registered suppliers. Most companies couldn't be in business if all they were selling was a coil (like you said) or a bottle of liquid every month.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition
Last edited:
So are you saying the companies that make sub ohm cloud chasing coils are posers & chumps too?
Yep. My favorite vape shop owner spoke before city council a few months ago, along with some of her most die-hard customers, and pretty much singlehandedly defeated a local ordinance that would have lumped vape shops in with a few problem tobacco shops that the city wanted to target, and essentially closed almost every vape shop in town. The same shop (along with one other) organized a benefit/cloud competition with all the proceeds going to a charity that helps disabled veterans. Then, last month, the vape shop did a huge pet food drive for the no-kill shelter that I volunteer for. Activism, both for vaping rights and in general, is a large part of the culture around here. And at least here, the vape shops I patronize were just as cool and helpful to me when I was a newbie with an eGo on a lanyard as they are now that I'm dripping with RBAs and running higher wattage mods.
And I'm personally super glad for the innovation that allows me to vape successfully and satisfactorily. I'm currently running a Mutation X v4 with dual coils at .5, 47 watts on an IPV mini 2, dripping a juice that tastes like milky fruit loops, getting lovely flavorful thick vapor that is more delicious and satisfying to me than any cigarette could ever hope to be. I'm glad that demand exists for that technology, because it has probably saved my life or at least added years to it, and I never could have cobbled it together out of a flashlight and some crap from Radio Shack for myself. If I'd been limited to leaky clearomizer tanks and an eGo twist, I probably would be back to smoking by now.
I am not a cloud chaser on purpose. My goto mod is a Reo Grand with various atomizers using mostly dual coils at 0.5+/- ohms. If my clouds might offend someone, I try to blow them down or at least away from them. It is a respect thing.
Am I a poser? Maybe, but I do not smoke cigarettes!
Am I a poser? Maybe, but I do not smoke cigarettes!
Seems like taking deep lung hits and blowing the 'vapor' out right away is a waste, so is done for show, not for a good vape...
Guess I should quit my job and get holes in my ears tomorrow.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition
Says the guy who never tried it. It's like a shot of bourbon instead of a light beer.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition
You're a courteous cloud chaser that respects others. The problem is with the cloud chasers that feel like they can blow huge clouds anywhere, just because it's not smoke.
I take slow, deep lung hits, hold and exhale very little vapor. I vape for nicotine and flavor, though, not for show...
- Status
Similar threads
