I would suggest a whole lotta research first...
You'll enjoy it the more you understand it.
And stay safe also.
Jim
Cloud Chasing
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You'll enjoy it the more you understand it.
And stay safe also.
Jim
The dripbox shouldnt even fire under 0.2 ohms. Before trying to go super sub ohm, I think you should do a lot more reading. You are asking a lot of questions that someone who is wanting to build incredibly low should already know the answers to.
batteries can make a huge difference. If you buy the wrong type battery or a junk battery, you risk the battery venting or exploding if you build too low. Ideally, the dripbox should limit this to an extent, but if your batteries cant provide the amps to run it in what the dripbox sees as the acceptable range, you are asking for trouble.
In addition, you don't HAVE to build super low to get clouds. With a proper build, you can throw out some pretty good sized clouds even with coils in the 0.5 ohm range without any trouble.
Thank you all of the info. I just ordered some efest irm batteries so that should help. Do batteries change the ability of a device to build lower? I understand that the dripbox can only go down to about .2 but will those good batteries help my cause?
On a pure mech mod, higher amp batteries will allow you to build lower. The dripbox doesn't follow that rule, though. It has a hard limit at 0.2 ohms. No matter how good your batteries are, the 0.2 ohm limit will be the absolute limit for your device.
Not knowing what your current batteries are, there is no way to say if the efests will be better. Efest rewraps so many cells that you never really know what you are getting. They are notorious for overinflating their specs. A lot of their "40 amp batteries" turn out to be 20 amp batteries. Some of their "20 amp batteries" turned out to be cells from a reputable manufacturer that only rates them at 10 amps.
Those are not good batteries. Moreover 0.2Ω coils when you haven't said how you will measure them is not good practice.
What you are planning is unsafe - and i realise you are seeing 35A on the battery wrapper but that's not the case.
I'd rather you learned what you were doing safely than maintained this 'clouds or die' approach. Slow down a bit.
T
What you are planning is unsafe - and i realise you are seeing 35A on the battery wrapper but that's not the case.
I'd rather you learned what you were doing safely than maintained this 'clouds or die' approach. Slow down a bit.
T
Gotcha. So basically I need a new mod to be able to build low. I'm gonna see how this velocity v2 goes with my dripbox versus the subdrip rda. I'm most likely gonna get a good bottom feeder such as a reo and some others that will work with tanks. What are some solid mod and tank combos that will chuck clouds? Sorry for being so inexperienced.....
A mechanical mod will fire anything. There is no safety except your ability to build coils that match your battery specifications.
So all safety is between your ears...you have to know these things. But they are not hard to learn and the gear to be safe is not expensive.
A mod with electronics will offer you more safety, and i'd recommend that for an inexperienced vaper. We were all inexperienced once - i'd just hate for you to hurt yourself trying things you don't yet understand.
T
So all safety is between your ears...you have to know these things. But they are not hard to learn and the gear to be safe is not expensive.
A mod with electronics will offer you more safety, and i'd recommend that for an inexperienced vaper. We were all inexperienced once - i'd just hate for you to hurt yourself trying things you don't yet understand.
T
I don't understand why so many think you have to build super low to blow clouds. Back in the days of the mech mods yeah. Any good mod, cuboid, wismec, IPV so on and a smok TFV4 or TFV8 or a good RDA will waste all the juice you want and most likely be safe about it.
My advice is to get a good regulated mod and some good batteries and read everything you can find.
My advice is to get a good regulated mod and some good batteries and read everything you can find.
Pretty much any mod that can go 30w or above with a proper build on it can throw decent clouds. You just need the airflow right and learn to build properly. Just slapping the lowest ohm coil you can build in there isn't the right way to do it.
Don't take this personally, but based on the level of inexperience you are showing, i would strongly recommend you NOT get a mechanical mod. You are still new and have a lot to learn. We were all there at some point. In addition, you can get regulated mods that can safely put out far more power than any single battery mech. If you go with a two battery regulated mod, you can easily go over 100 watts(some will advertise 200+ watts, but they cannot consistently do that amount of power on two cells). In addition to being able to put out more power, they will offer you much more safety and customization. With a mech, you MUST build the coils to suit the power you want. With a regulated device, you can build the coils how you want, and then vary the power to fine tune the vape you want. If you really wanted to start getting into overpowered mods, you can look at something like the rx200. It takes 3 batteries and can go as high was 250 watts with the latest firmware update. I would really suggest just getting a regulated mod that takes two batteries, learn to build while dripping, and you will learn what it takes to make the clouds.
Thanks for a more verbose version of what i posted 4 above.
T
T
Haha, I dont take offense to anything. I really appreciate you all giving me advice. I'm starting to get it, that the air flow is very important and can be just as important as the build. I'm goin to get a regulated bottom feeder to learn how to build. Do you think its nessecary to get something 100 watt plus if i'm going to use an rda? What does the high wattage exactly do?
Yes, batteries do matter. Whenever I put new batteries in my mods, even the regulated mods, they really kick out the vapor if I have fresh fully charged batteries in them. You need good batteries too.
Check out LG and Sony.
I started in Sept of 2015 with a 75W Sigelei mod, and used it for all of two months, then moved on to a 150W Sigelei, and used it for a few months. I have many mods now but my main two are new Sigelei 213's. I plan to buy at least 5 more of these mods.
I would suggest you get nothing lower than 75W if you want to cloud chase. Don't forget...if it can dial UP to 75W or 200W...it can still be dialed down to 10 watts. It's all abt flexibility and getting the very best flavor/clouds you can get.
It is not overkill to buy a 200W regulated mod and vape at 50W. It just means you have headroom to go higher.
I often vape btw 120W and 170W depending on the device I'm using on top and the e-liquid.
What do you think about efest imr batteries? I just ordered some of those for really cheap...heard the stats can be over valued on occasion.
Personally, I won't use them. You don't know what you are getting. You may be getting a somewhat ok 20A battery, or you may be getting a low end 10A battery. You just never know what they are rewrapping that week. If you buy a name brand battery(LG, Sony, Samsung, etc) from a reputable source, you know exactly what you are getting.
Having the additional wattage lets you try more power if you want to. If you never need it, you will just have overhead and not be running the mod near its limits. My rx200 can go all the way to 250w, but it rarely ever sees over 100w anymore. I don't consider it a waste. I just get to go longer without charging. Off the top of my head, I don't know of many regulated bottom feeders. Personally, I have tried a mech that was a squonker and didn't find it all that great. I prefer a tank where I fill it with juice, build the way I want(I use a griffin 25), and then just refill the tank occassionally. Typically, a tank will last me an hour long drive while chain vaping. That is more than enough for me. That is just my preference, though. Some people prefer squonk mods. Others prefer tanks. Others prefer RDAs. It is just all a personal preference.
If you just want to chuck clouds, go buy a a mod that can go to 150+ watts, a TFV4, get the quad coils, and break them in around 50 watts and then slowly work your way up to 90-120 watts. It takes all the guesswork out of it. Plus, with a 4.5ml capacity, it will run for a decent chunk of time before you need to refill(again, I get about an hour of drive time while I vape pretty heavily).
Awesome! I really like the sound of that setup!
If you go with that, just be sure you thoroughly prime the coils. They are BIG coils, and they hold A LOT of juice. When i prime them, I literally just let juice run down the inside of them while rotating them. This lets the juice soak the cotton all the way around. It will soak up about 1ml of juice. Just keep adding a little more juice until it wont soak up any more. Then I put it in the tank, fill the tank, and give it another 5-10 minutes before taking a puff. I start out at about 40 or 50 watts, and then work my way up every 5 or so hits. I go up in 5 watt increments until I am at about 80 watts. After that, i just vape it normally and increase the wattage if I feel I need to. Normally just breaking them in will take about a tank of juice.
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