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Cloupor mini caught fire

Discussion in 'VV/VW APV Discussion' started by Qttash, Jan 25, 2015.

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  1. AnsonJames

    AnsonJames Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 23, 2011
    IRELAND
    I know for a fact that companies like Smok just use their early adopters as beta testers.
    This happens all the time with Chinese mods.
     
  2. crxess

    crxess Grumpy Ole Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 20, 2012
    Williamsport Md
    Yes and No. Manufacturers like Kanger, Innokin, Joyetech and even Cloupor take actions to correct any issues arising in a product. Some faster than others, but still taking an interest in their reputation and the consumer.

    a Year or two ago we had far fewer lesser experienced vapors using far less powerful first run devices.

    Steve, I understand your Desire for a Perfect world but your assumptions on Q.C. and Capability are skewed or you are turning a blind eye. You are either to young or never experienced working in our own younger developing companies.
    I have worked for companies like G.E. in their infancy/youth and know of the growth, development and QC changes along the way. I have witnessed the manufacturing pitfalls and failures brought to market by even U.S. manufacturers.

    Very few companies hit it perfect out of the gate and even when they do they often stumble down the road. Accelerated development in an effort to keep up only makes things more complicated.

    Racehorse I just don't get. All I read in most post is drama, drama, drama with little suggestion for betterment.

    It seems to me the more we push for and expect the worse we spiral out of control.
    We live in a world of:
    I want it cheap
    I want it Now
    I want it Perfect
    Is it done yet??????????????????????
     
  3. Racehorse

    Racehorse ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 12, 2012
    USA midwest
    Yes, remember this one?




    we've discussed the concept of commerce without conscience in other topics. It's not just Big Tobacco who engaged in that stuff.
     
  4. crxess

    crxess Grumpy Ole Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 20, 2012
    Williamsport Md
    Wow - Retro video(2012)
    Yes now a days Smoke has many Decent products and a strong following.
    Not so sure of your point. There was obviously a learning curve as to what is expected. Are you saying other, newer companies do not deserve the chance to learn?

    Smok was known early on for Stealing other China manufacturers works. This very Video is of the piece that copied the Sigelei Telescope. Smok followed up ripping Regulated designs.
    The Sigelei DID have Clearly visible Venting for safety - (2) large holes above the switch on the main tube and (2) more above the threading of the upper tube.
    In the same time frame Rainbow Heaven released their first VW Device, the Vamo. This was anything but a Early adopter guinea pig device. Mine still works well today.

    GM has had many false start vehicle releases as has Ford and most every other auto manufacturer.

    I imagine it is a complex game balancing the cost of staying in business and meeting consumer demands.
     
  5. siapaya

    siapaya Senior Member

    Jan 29, 2015
    Jakarta, Indonesia
    Not in my shoes. A pack cost $1.4 maximum.
    Mods and tanks price are 50% higher here than in the US.
     
  6. Fergie

    Fergie Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2013
    Toronto, Canada,
    Wow, it costs over $12 for a large pack of smokes here in Toronto Canada.
     
  7. Mactavish

    Mactavish Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 19, 2010
    New York
    FWIW: the place I bought my mini is doing their own recall, and I've seen it disappear from a few other sites this week. Statement is here: Cloupor Mini 30W Recall
    May return mine and save up for a VaporShark DNA 40 when those minor bugs are worked out.
     
  8. Fergie

    Fergie Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2013
    Toronto, Canada,
    Interesting indeed.
     
  9. crxess

    crxess Grumpy Ole Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 20, 2012
    Williamsport Md
    I am curious as to their assertions as they seem to leave a grey area. Evidence in Hand but no mention of actual fault or Batch involved.

    Many Vendors posted Recall and accepted return unquestioned during the 0002xx super heating issue discovery.

    I would very much like to hear what they consider evidence(full disclosure) and their concept of correction to THEIR satisfaction.

    3/18 is also a rather late Call to action - Recall
    Perhaps under advisement to rectify an early failure and customer concern.

    Again - Very Grey in detail

    *Thank you for posting and the link!

    ETA: From their News page:

    Never ran across any Battery malfunctions on early batch..............hmmmm...........
    Perhaps they mean during primary testing before early release.:blink:

    ETA2: apologies, but the more I read on that site the less impressed I become. YMMV
     
  10. Fergie

    Fergie Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2013
    Toronto, Canada,
    I wouldn't buy buy from the limited items they have available. Sounds a little bit like the Illvapes fiasco.

    I would really like to see that evidence.
     
  11. crxess

    crxess Grumpy Ole Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 20, 2012
    Williamsport Md
    They also have sworn proof from Efest that Fasttech Efest Batteries are Fakes.
    Fasttech has NEVER sold Efest........................... though a Hana clone came with one(likely manufacturer supplied):)
     
  12. Fergie

    Fergie Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2013
    Toronto, Canada,
    LOL , yeah I saw their fake efests in a device, pretty obvious as there was a spelling mistake on the battery.

    Not sure what to think on this it was added to a reviewers comments which are all good. Except the last one. LOL
     
  13. BigEgo

    BigEgo Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2013
    Alabama
    Huge black eye for Cloupor. I can tolerate devices that are janky, cheap or don't work well. I have no tolerance for companies that put out products that could potentially burn your house down or blow a finger off.
     
  14. crxess

    crxess Grumpy Ole Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 20, 2012
    Williamsport Md
  15. roxynoodle

    roxynoodle Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 19, 2014
    Ohio
    Well, obviously they are doing this for a reason, and there must have been more incidents :(

    Yes, I know, some of you will continue to defend this device as if it were a family member. I don't understand why, but its your choice. After my sx Zero fire, I won't be buying another one, nor another mod from Hotcig. There are plenty of other choices.
     
  16. crxess

    crxess Grumpy Ole Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 20, 2012
    Williamsport Md
    common sense is irrelevant
     
  17. SS stingray

    SS stingray Super Member ECF Veteran

    Please You have no clue !! The mini has nearly 1 million units sold. And only a handful were bad. NO BODY was or will never be hurt since the unit is in a metal box. Do us a favor and DON' T buy one . I will however stop defending the mini when I find something better. How could you think a finger would be blown off ? Is there gun power or firecrackers inside ???
     
  18. tchavei

    tchavei Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 15, 2014
    Portugal
    Hi.

    First off: I don't own a cloupor mini and if I ever will, I will only want it for it's enclosure to put a TP chip in it. I have nothing against the device and if it were just a tad wider and didn't had those air channels pressed on the case, I would have already bought a few to mod them.

    About the above store's statement: I have no idea about the reasons that made them declare something like this BUT it's not the only one.

    For example, here in Europe, a well known and reputable store, not only pulled the mini when the first units failed but also issued a recall, gave EVERY SINGLE buyer their money back including those that didn't want to return their units. They refunded the customers and sent a warning notice to not use the mod and just toss it in the bin.

    Last week I asked the store when they would start selling them again and they said "Never. They are too dangerous". I also asked if they didn't have some in stock because I really just wanted the enclosure and I was told they had boxes full of them but they would all be returned so they wouldn't sell me one.

    Now, I believe that that particular issue was resolved after batch 002 but I understand that some stores just don't want to take the responsibility should something happen again.... Can you blame them?

    Imagine that somehow somewhere a guy blows off his hand with this mod (whatever reason). Imagine that the customer would decide to sue the store for the incident and, finally, imagine that in court it would be brought up that the store knew that there were issues in the past but started to sell the mods again after some time... Now the store has liability and probably will also be charged for negligence or worse....

    Can you really blame those stores for not wanting to have anything to do with that particular model ever again? No matter how quick the problem was solved?

    I can't.

    Regards
    Tony

    Sent from my keyboard through my phone or something like that.
     
  19. roxynoodle

    roxynoodle Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 19, 2014
    Ohio
    Well, this is true. If someone in the US is injured by one, they can legally sue the vendor who sold it. I'm guessing Europe is similar.
     
  20. roxynoodle

    roxynoodle Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 19, 2014
    Ohio
    Have they really sold a million? That seems much too large a number. Even 100,00 would be a lot though its possible.
     
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