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I roast my own coffee beans (yes, if you need yet another hobby to take up your time trying roasting your own coffee).
Truly! :D But the payoff is worth it.

BGL, as a home roaster I assume you know that coffee is best extracted when the water temperature is ~200 degrees and extraction time is ~4 minutes. Any thoughts along these lines? What if I get my PG to near 200 deg, add it to the coffee, and then begin straining pretty much immediately? I think I'll gamble a couple teaspoons of homeroast and 30 ml or so of pg and try it.

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Truly! :D But the payoff is worth it.

BGL, as a home roaster I assume you know that coffee is best extracted when the water temperature is ~200 degrees and extraction time is ~4 minutes. Any thoughts along these lines? What if I get my PG to near 200 deg, add it to the coffee, and then begin straining pretty much immediately? I think I'll gamble a couple teaspoons of homeroast and 30 ml or so of pg and try it.

Sorry for the hijack. Just thinking out loud.
You could be on to something..:) Just check the boiling point on PG..
 

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You could be on to something..:) Just check the boiling point on PG..
Thanks, yeah; good idea.
We'll see. This will take some playing with, as I doubt PG would act the same as water for extracting coffee.

EDIT: Yeah, that brings up another question in my mind: Is it the temperature of the liquid that's magic, or is it that it's near boiling? Hmmm...
 
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Truly! :D But the payoff is worth it.

BGL, as a home roaster I assume you know that coffee is best extracted when the water temperature is ~200 degrees and extraction time is ~4 minutes. Any thoughts along these lines? What if I get my PG to near 200 deg, add it to the coffee, and then begin straining pretty much immediately? I think I'll gamble a couple teaspoons of homeroast and 30 ml or so of pg and try it.

Sorry for the hijack. Just thinking out loud.

It's subjective and depends on who you ask. I usually go around 185-190. Love my press pot! Anyway, what you were saying gave me a thought. How about using a press pot for the extraction. Just like you were making a real pot of coffee. You'd probably need to strain through a paper filter afterwords. Now, I made my first extract this morning. I followed the previous instructions until filtering. I used my aeropress which worked beautifully. I haven't put it in a recipe yet but I did taste it and it was very good. I'm used Jimmy Buffet's Pirate Gold. I haven't roasted in a while because my roaster's thermostat broke. I think I may take your idea and try making coffee with pg using my aeropress. I'll report back.

BTW, yo vapor. The guy that created the aeropress did an extensive study and found that most people prefer the taste of coffee that was brewed around 176. I tried to find the report for you but couldn't locate it.

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I thought about using my areopress, but it was such a small experimental batch that I just used my espresso machine's portafilter basket with a coffee filter underneath that. Let it drip. The aeropress seems like a better idea for my little experiment, though, to keep from getting overextraction bitterness.

I used a blend of Brazil, Sumatra, and Uganda (I was going for a moka java, but was out of Ethiopia so I substituted Uganda) which I just roasted today. Fresh roasted coffee, like freshly mixed juice needs to rest at least a couple of days, but this wasn't bad for a quick & dirty experiment. I heated the PG until it starting vaporizing pretty good; it never did boil (I still need to look up the boiling point of PG).

5 ml batch @ 24 mg/ml nic:
4 parts 60% nic
1 part PG
5 parts diluted VG (70% VG, 30% distilled water -- 80/20 is probably better)
7 or 8 drops of my coffee extract (I meant to go 5 drops but had a spastic FAILure)
4 drops brown sugar flavor from DIY Flavorshack (Dawnmarie) I may try caramel flavor next time.

Not too strong coffee tasting, but the juice is a bit dark, a result of my accident. Pretty dadgum good vape!

Greg, I've always just boiled my water and then waited for it to quit bubbling before use in a ccd pourover, chemex, or aeropress as per what I read at Sweet Maria's, GCBC, and others. As you say, it's a matter of what you like, I guess. 176 sounds a bit too cool to me. Hmm... Worth looking into though. I mostly just use an espresso machine now anyway.

Thanks, and sorry to hear about your roaster. :(

I'll still try the above the above method (Jimi's?); it just seemed to me that coffee should be extracted at higher heat, is why I tried what I did.
 

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I thought about using my areopress, but it was such a small experimental batch that I just used my espresso machine's portafilter basket with a coffee filter underneath that. Let it drip. The aeropress seems like a better idea for my little experiment, though, to keep from getting overextraction bitterness.

I used a blend of Brazil, Sumatra, and Uganda (I was going for a moka java, but was out of Ethiopia so I substituted Uganda) which I just roasted today. Fresh roasted coffee, like freshly mixed juice needs to rest at least a couple of days, but this wasn't bad for a quick & dirty experiment. I heated the PG until it starting vaporizing pretty good; it never did boil (I still need to look up the boiling point of PG).

5 ml batch @ 24 mg/ml nic:
4 parts 60% nic
1 part PG
5 parts diluted VG (70% VG, 30% distilled water -- 80/20 is probably better)
7 or 8 drops of my coffee extract (I meant to go 5 drops but had a spastic FAILure)
4 drops brown sugar flavor from DIY Flavorshack (Dawnmarie) I may try caramel flavor next time.

Not too strong coffee tasting, but the juice is a bit dark, a result of my accident. Pretty dadgum good vape!

Greg, I've always just boiled my water and then waited for it to quit bubbling before use in a ccd pourover, chemex, or aeropress as per what I read at Sweet Maria's, GCBC, and others. As you say, it's a matter of what you like, I guess. 176 sounds a bit too cool to me. Hmm... Worth looking into though. I mostly just use an espresso machine now anyway.

Thanks, and sorry to hear about your roaster. :(

I'll still try the above the above method (Jimi's?); it just seemed to me that coffee should be extracted at higher heat, is why I tried what I did.

If you have an aeropress and know sweet Maria's then you are truly a coffee geek. What do you roast with? I started with hot air popcorn Popper but use a Turbo crazy now. I haven't used the AP to make coffee in a long time. I love strong coffee but not really an espresso Guy.

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I whipped up 7 ml test batch last night with my extract. Used 5% coffee extract with no other flavors and it's pretty damn good. I'll have to add some vanilla or something to it to see how that is.

Next up, cinnamon! I've been wanting some cinnamon to supplement the TPA apple pie I got not too long ago.

Thanks for this info!

Greg
 

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The horrible insomniac that I am, at two am I ran across this thread. Coffee is "God's Elixer" to me and I was out of coffee flavored juice! What I did have was some "real" coffee so I had to try the make your own coffee with ground coffee. I added some bavarian cream that I had left over from candy making and some already mixed cotton candy and its wonderful!!! I can only imagine the possibilities...Thank you, thank you, thank you for the recipe and this thread, you have made my week!
 

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Tried something new last night. goodprophets has a big nic sale on right now so I can afford to be a tiny bit wasteful - I bought half a liter of 36mg VG last time they had a sale and just bought another half a liter this week.

Soooo, I extracted my favorite coffee straight into some of the 36mg VG :D

I like my coffee strong and this should allow me to get higher nic levels and still use the cheap 36mg GP nic. It'll be interesting.

edit: Couple other tips I've learned - my DIY coffee does tend to taste better after steeping for three days or so, so when I get down to about 15ml left I make a new batch. Also, IME paper cone filters are much easier to use than the other kind. I'm gonna buy one of those Melitta one-cup plastic brewers for this when I find one in the store - you guys have seen them. They hold a small cone filter and sit on top of your cup. Should eliminate the need for a chip clip ;)
 
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Soooo, I extracted my favorite coffee straight into some of the 36mg VG

Interesting! Post-steep report IS mandatory...
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Tried something new last night. goodprophets has a big nic sale on right now so I can afford to be a tiny bit wasteful - I bought half a liter of 36mg VG last time they had a sale and just bought another half a liter this week.

Soooo, I extracted my favorite coffee straight into some of the 36mg VG :D

I like my coffee strong and this should allow me to get higher nic levels and still use the cheap 36mg GP nic. It'll be interesting.

edit: Couple other tips I've learned - my DIY coffee does tend to taste better after steeping for three days or so, so when I get down to about 15ml left I make a new batch. Also, IME paper cone filters are much easier to use than the other kind. I'm gonna buy one of those Melitta one-cup plastic brewers for this when I find one in the store - you guys have seen them. They hold a small cone filter and sit on top of your cup. Should eliminate the need for a chip clip ;)
I thought high heat decreases the nic. level.
 

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Hi all,

Noob here who has been following this thread and loves COFFEE!!! When you guys say coffee grounds I assume you mean to open up a bag of ground coffee and use it and NOT use the coffee grounds left over from this mornings coffee. Again sorry for the stupid question, I am very new to all of this.

Thanks,

Steve
 

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Almost 3am and still up!!! The ever insomniac came up with something wonderful though...Still playing with the coffee extraction process, I discovered that I had one raspberry zinger tea bag and I couldn't have that, what good is one going to do me (my cups are huge, must hold vats of coffee), so I tried the extraction on my tea bag and oh my is this little extract wonderful!!! The color, flavor and oh the smell...just fantastic. Now I just have to figure out what to do with it, my daughter suggested adding chocolate, so off to play till the sun comes up..
 
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