Coils/Wicking -- proper spacing

[vernhall]

Perhaps a dumb question, but... Have been attempting to build my coils on a small screw to get consistent spacing... How critical is it to have the coil in contact with the wick itself? And, if not, what would an appropriate spacing between the two be?

 

[eratikmind]

Perhaps a dumb question, but... Have been attempting to build my coils on a small screw to get consistent spacing... How critical is it to have the coil in contact with the wick itself? And, if not, what would an appropriate spacing between the two be?

I wrap all of my wicks outside of the device.

The coil should be wrapped around the wick with no gaps. However, take care not to strangle the wicking media. Too tight, too loose, and you will create shorts.

Spacing? I don't worry too much with spacing. Although, I do attempt to make the coils even. When dry burning, the coil will tell you the proper spacing required to produce an even glow.


- Andy . . . Challenge the day.

 

[SissySpike]

Your coils need to be in contact with the wick as eratikmind said. As far as spacing between the coils practice makes perfect. you can make a 1.5 ohm coil from 34 guage if your good but it just takes time patience and persistence. Just keep at it your first good coil you will think wow this is great then it just get better from there. Some days you just seem to have a bad RBA day happens to us all.

 

[Unforeseen]

Moved to Assorted PV Topics - Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

 

[Randy C]

The spacing isn't as important as I once thought... just do your best

 

[pdib]

Spacing is not important for proper functioning. Once you get the hang of it, play with spacing for different effects on your vape preference. Any spacing works; but different styles yield different results.

 

[StaircaseWit]

Appropriate spacing between wick and coil is zero. You don't want it loose at all.

 

[pdib]

Appropriate spacing between wick and coil is zero. You don't want it loose at all.

▲contact with coil▲ . . . . . vs. spacing between wraps

 

[StaircaseWit]

Perhaps a dumb question, but... Have been attempting to build my coils on a small screw to get consistent spacing... How critical is it to have the coil in contact with the wick itself? And, if not, what would an appropriate spacing between the two be?

▲contact with coil▲ . . . . . vs. spacing between wraps

OP asked about coil/wick contact, delta-boy.

 

[pdib]

Perhaps a dumb question, but... Have been attempting to build my coils on a small screw to get consistent spacing... How critical is it to have the coil in contact with the wick itself? And, if not, what would an appropriate spacing between the two be?

I wrap all of my wicks outside of the device.

The coil should be wrapped around the wick with no gaps. However, take care not to strangle the wicking media. Too tight, too loose, and you will create shorts.

Spacing? I don't worry too much with spacing. Although, I do attempt to make the coils even. When dry burning, the coil will tell you the proper spacing required to produce an even glow.


- Andy . . . Challenge the day.

Ok, if you say so. . . . . .but your answer is redundant, and the topic of conversation had shifted. (▲ ↔ ▼ ☼ ∟)

edit: oh,



Actually, I felt that the OP was using terms interchangeably, and wanted to make clear the difference between your statement and mine

 

[pdib]

I wonder, it seems to me that any two (even dissimilar) objects can have a "space" between them; but in order to have "spacing" one must be referring to "like" objects. Thus, there would be no spacing between wick and coil; but there would be spacing in between sections of coil. (Alternatively, there can be space between your ears, and there can be "spacing" between your ears) What do you think, S.Wit?

 

[StaircaseWit]

I wonder, it seems to me that any two (even dissimilar) objects can have a "space" between them; but in order to have "spacing" one must be referring to "like" objects. Thus, there would be no spacing between wick and coil; but there would be spacing in between sections of coil. (Alternatively, there can be space between your ears, and there can be "spacing" between your ears) What do you think, S.Wit?

I think the hole is deep enough. Time to stop digging.



And when discussing adjusting the gap in a spark plug, it's referred to as "spacing" or "gapping". The center electrode and base electrode are definitely dissimilar.

 

[CloudZ]

^^^ to the last two posts, this argument is extremely irrelevant.

Something I have noticed is mentioned by pdib and maybe one other rba guy/gal on here is that it is okay, and potentially even ideal, that the coils touch each other. I have confirmed that nichrome wire can short circuit on itself, so how is it that this does not occur when it is coiled? Or is it actually shorting, but this still results in a good vape? Do you have a technical explanation or is it just anecdotal evidence?


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[bckane]

I been using a 4/40 machine screw...........perfect coils

Perhaps a dumb question, but... Have been attempting to build my coils on a small screw to get consistent spacing... How critical is it to have the coil in contact with the wick itself? And, if not, what would an appropriate spacing between the two be?

 

[pdib]

^^^ to the last two posts, this argument is extremely irrelevant.

Something I have noticed is mentioned by pdib and maybe one other rba guy/gal on here is that it is okay, and potentially even ideal, that the coils touch each other. I have confirmed that nichrome wire can short circuit on itself, so how is it that this does not occur when it is coiled? Or is it actually shorting, but this still results in a good vape? Do you have a technical explanation or is it just anecdotal evidence?


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Yes, irrelevant: having fun, being silly. And anecdotal. I imagine that if you had a good and proper short in a tightly bunched coil, you'd see just a strait line glowing across one ridge, like a drop off water running down the side of a glass. I haven't seen that in my anecdoticianship(ness).

 

[CloudZ]

Yes, irrelevant: having fun, being silly. And anecdotal. I imagine that if you had a good and proper short in a tightly bunched coil, you'd see just a strait line glowing across one ridge, like a drop off water running down the side of a glass. I haven't seen that in my anecdoticianship(ness).

I mean no disrespect, anecdotal evidence is perfectly reasonable. If it works, it works. I just want to know WHY it works.

Right now I am thinking that the coils aren't actually touching, they are just really really close. Since the voltage is low, it can't arc. Perhaps they are touching, but somehow the wire is pre-oxidized and thus insulated well enough.

There must be a good reason. And yes, I am too lazy to bother digging too deep to figure it out myself.

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[pdib]

Tightness-wise, sometimes I actually normalize the coil with a torch and compact it with parallel action pliers.

 

[pdib]

Oh, look at this, "Greasy Joe's auto repair: we'll gap your plugs and provend tutelage in the proper use of the English language"

 

[StaircaseWit]

Oh, look at this, "Greasy Joe's auto repair: we'll gap your plugs and provend tutelage in the proper use of the English language"

Haha I knew you couldn't let that one go.

How about this: when kerning a font or typeface, the gaps between letters are referred to as the "spacing" of the letters. The letters can certainly be considered dissimilar unless identical, more often the former than latter. Same in CSS design; the gaps are "spacing" of elements.

Love you.

 

[Jerms]

How does Kevin Spacey figure into this?

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