Coming back to vaping...Not sure why I ever left...Lavatube?

[ch47chief]

Hello all! For a touch of background I did really well with vaping for about a year. I am active duty Army and left recruiting command and got back around everybody smoking analogs and went right back to it. Well, now I'm deployed in Afghanistan and got so sick of analogs that I placed an order and just got my new e-cigs in. WHY DID I EVER STOP THIS!? vaping is AMAZING and I was stupid to ever go back to analogs...never again!

Anyway, I only had a pretty standard 808d kit from Bloog that I used before, and being the type to stick with what works, that's what I got this go around. That being said, while I love my Bloog equipment, I feel like I'm missing out on a whole world that vaping has to offer. Looking to branch out, I have been researching the Lavatube from Volcano. One of our pilots out here has one and that thing is sick. I really think I want to get one, but I have concerns that I need help with...

I have only ever used the Bloog 808s. I really enjoy their ease of use, portability and convenience but would like something with a lot more power that would give me a better vape while I'm not out and about. The Lavatube seems pretty awesome, but I'm just concerned that I have gotten too used to the easiness the 808 provides and worry that I'll screw something up and break the damn thing or something. (Not to mention, it's not like I can get replacement parts overnight out here...) So, what do I do? Is it as complicated as I have built it up to be in my head? What all parts should I get with my initial purchase? Help PLEASE!!!

Thanks!

-Big Sarge

 

[ukeman]

Hey Big Sarge... sounds good man; if you enjoy it then you're doing it right and should get something that is a sure thing; being "over there" and all. I don't know, I live in Hawaii and get everything through airmail usps, but not the same as overseas shipping, and i have gotten and tried, and sold, just about everything there is at least twice!

I would guess, from where you're at, that a dual coil carto tank matched with that LT would be a good start. I mean there's a ton of vapers using and liking that kind of setup (without getting into advanced gear like rebuildable atomizers).
I personally like the Vmax myself as it has more kick than the LT and great for the price.
Vmax is made by SmokTech which makes a lot of gear (carto tanks too).

You might try looking at "igetcha69"s youtube library; he has reviewed just about everything from A to Z.
I suggest you stick with a decent VV like the Vmax and some carto tanks before you go into more technical stuff.

 

[ch47chief]

Thanks for the advice ukman! I haven't looked into the Vmax yet, but I'll check out some stuff on the web. I have this undying need to read reviews for a month before I buy anything online, so I'm sure it'll be a bit before I make my decision.

Yeah rebulidable attys and the such will just have to wait until I'm @ home and more comfortable with the technology. I really don't like wasting money (which I seem to do a lot of with flavors...they all sound so amazing!). I need some kind of e-cig glossary for all these terms. As I said before, the 808d has spoiled me in it's simplicity of use so I haven't had to learn all these parts and pieces.

What about anybody else? I am kind of an all or nothing person, and really want to make my next purchase a big, beautiful, shiny mod that gives me vapor production thats out of this world. Any other suggestions?

 

[zerocool]

Myself im going tomorrow to try one lavatube . And some juice from a seller here in south africa. Will be back to you after that .

 

[RosaJ]

Thanks for the advice ukman! I haven't looked into the Vmax yet, but I'll check out some stuff on the web. I have this undying need to read reviews for a month before I buy anything online, so I'm sure it'll be a bit before I make my decision.

Yeah rebulidable attys and the such will just have to wait until I'm @ home and more comfortable with the technology. I really don't like wasting money (which I seem to do a lot of with flavors...they all sound so amazing!). I need some kind of e-cig glossary for all these terms. As I said before, the 808d has spoiled me in it's simplicity of use so I haven't had to learn all these parts and pieces.

What about anybody else? I am kind of an all or nothing person, and really want to make my next purchase a big, beautiful, shiny mod that gives me vapor production thats out of this world. Any other suggestions?

If money is not a problem, I would suggest you get a Provari. It comes with a one year warranty, and you can buy an additional year for about $20 I think, not sure. Get yourself the extension for the 18650 batteries too. The kit will come with everything you need for the provari (whole kit is $211 from Provape). Also get yourself a back up battery like a eGo twist.

If you don't want to be constantly refilling your atty, get some kind of a tank. I personally use a pyrex tank from Valley View Vapor and also get boge cartos from them that they test and punch for $1 extra. I also have a Vivi Nova that I've learned to recoil, but you said you won't be using any rebuildable until you get home.

Welcome back to the vaping world. Stay safe and vape on!

PS: Thank you for what you do!

 

[ukeman]

this is a Vmax thread; long but deals with everything.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-smoktech-vmax-owners-tips-tricks-quirks.html

the Vmax is in it's like 4th version so most kinks worked out. I have a V2 and have zero issues.
I wouldn't be without my Provari, but I've had about 6 of them over the years since the 1st run and love my V2. Point is if you can't afford a bunch of PV's and you want a solid VV which packs a punch, for the money it's the Vmax imo. The stainless is the most desirable.

The LT is a great choice if you are on a budget; so is the eGo Twist for that matter.

Oh yeah, Chief, you will need backups so i'd throw a Twist in the order too anyway.

 

[flintlock62]

Hello all! For a touch of background I did really well with vaping for about a year. I am active duty Army and left recruiting command and got back around everybody smoking analogs and went right back to it. Well, now I'm deployed in Afghanistan and got so sick of analogs that I placed an order and just got my new e-cigs in. WHY DID I EVER STOP THIS!? Vaping is AMAZING and I was stupid to ever go back to analogs...never again!

Anyway, I only had a pretty standard 808d kit from Bloog that I used before, and being the type to stick with what works, that's what I got this go around. That being said, while I love my Bloog equipment, I feel like I'm missing out on a whole world that vaping has to offer. Looking to branch out, I have been researching the Lavatube from Volcano. One of our pilots out here has one and that thing is sick. I really think I want to get one, but I have concerns that I need help with...

I have only ever used the Bloog 808s. I really enjoy their ease of use, portability and convenience but would like something with a lot more power that would give me a better vape while I'm not out and about. The Lavatube seems pretty awesome, but I'm just concerned that I have gotten too used to the easiness the 808 provides and worry that I'll screw something up and break the damn thing or something. (Not to mention, it's not like I can get replacement parts overnight out here...) So, what do I do? Is it as complicated as I have built it up to be in my head? What all parts should I get with my initial purchase? Help PLEASE!!!

Thanks!

-Big Sarge

First of all, thank you for your service to our country! I've done a lot of reading here, and reading reviews, and you may consider getting a Joyce eGo twist. I'm also looking into a Lavatube, but they aren't as portable as the eGo Twist, but not a bad choice at all. I'm trying to look into the future as in maintenance and replacing parts.

Love those CH-47's! I was an Airdale in the Navy.

 

[ch47chief]

The Provari looks awesome...but 200+ might send the wife into heart failure. I'm diggin the Vmax, and like the points ukeman has brought up about having the kinks worked out. I havent looked into the eGo Twist, but i'll check it out here in a sec. Thanks for all the support BTW. It means a lot, and thanks for your service flintlock! The new 47Fs are pretty insane if you ever get a chance to get a look at one up close.

Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated! Please feel free to share you experience with any of this equipment, or any other VV mods you may have used.

It seems pretty new but has anybody had a chance to play with the new Versa? That thing looks pretty impressive and it's got me curious.

 

[flintlock62]

Seriously, Chief, you should look a the Volcano Lavatube, if you like the Provari.

I'd love to see the new CH-47's. After almost 40 years since I've been close to one, I'll bet they've changed. I went up in a test hop once. We went to 5,000, spiraled down almost to the deck, flattened out, went back up, and then nose dived! After a few other knuckle biting maneuvers, including a knife edge dive, I made a pucker mark on my seat, and was ready to throw up!

 

[ch47chief]

HAHA! Sounds like a great Maintenance Test Pilot! Those are hard to come by now-a-days...over regulation has produced some really inept not to mention boring pilots. The Fox models have the new glass (all computer screen) cockpits and some fun toys like the RTT (Return To Target) button that will send ya for a fun lil ride.

I've been looking hard at the lavatube, I'm still up in the air though and after many more weeks of wasting time doing e-cig research rather than homework I'll prolly make a decision

 

[maleko]

+1 for the Provari it is a great mod and the only mod I use now that is not a Re-buildable atty. I tend to stay with you get what you pay for and I am glad I went for the Provari however I cant recommend Re-buildables enough they are produce the most vapor and best flavor they just have a big learning curve at first.

 

[flintlock62]

Nam pilots were the best!

 

[hakeiym]

spoilt my ego batts and have to wait for a new one to arrive, in the meantime, i have to go back to analogs

 

[kiba]

The only problem w/ the vmax and other provari lookalikes is that they're modulated(wave signal), while w/ the provari you get what you set (flat signal) pwm is fine for some people but for me, pwm mods give me an uncomfortably hot vape that feels a lot higher than the voltage I have it set at. Be careful w/ your research if you don't want pwm because I know some lavatubes are pwm as well.

Edit: If you DO like pwm, there is another provari lookalike you might like called the imotion(?) I think, but I know its a lot cheaper than the vmax.

 

[flintlock62]

The only problem w/ the vmax is that its modulated(wave signal), while w/ the provari you get what you set (flat signal) pwm is fine for some people but for me, pwm mods give me an uncomfortably hot vape that feels a lot higher than the voltage I have it set at. Be careful w/ your research if you don't want pwm because I know some lavatubes are pwm as well.


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Thank you. That is good information, even though the price of the Provari is high, one gets what he/she pays for.

 

[zerocool]

Tried the lavatube today . With something called viva tank on top . Is really awesome i must say. Here in south africa is not so easy to get stuff and lavatube are available. ( my kit now is a couple of neo ) . Flavour .... I would say similar. Vapour much more .

 

[mrelwood]

for me, pwm mods give me an uncomfortably hot vape that feels a lot higher than the voltage I have it set at.

Isn't the issue solved by setting the voltage lower then?

About the Lavatube. I have the first version in use, and it's not something I would recommend. With a freshly charged battery I do get just enough power, but very soon the performance drops, and the voltage setting doesn't make any difference anymore. That's because it is running against the LT's power (or current) limit. My clearos and atos are 1.9 ohms.

The eGo-C Twist is a whole lot smaller, will also take eGo-threaded vaporizers, gives more power, and it gives the same power for 95% of the charging cycle. When I feel the performance dropping, it's only a few puffs and the charge is completely out and the battery shuts itself down.

I'd definitely go with a Twist or a Spinner instead of the LT. Spinner has a 1300mAh version that costs less than half of the LT.

Edit: I know I'm pretty alone on this boat, but I don't buy it that the Provari would be ten times as good as the Twist. Don't fool yourself into buying something you only think you need. The Twist/Spinner will give the same vape than the Provari unless you are using something like a 3.5 ohm or higher carto. What you pay for is pretty much unrelated to the actual performance.
If you feel that the Provari is worth it and worth lugging around, go ahead. I don't think it is.

 

[kiba]

Isn't the issue solved by setting the voltage lower then?

About the Lavatube. I have the first version in use, and it's not something I would recommend. With a freshly charged battery I do get just enough power, but very soon the performance drops, and the voltage setting doesn't make any difference anymore. That's because it is running against the LT's power (or current) limit. My clearos and atos are 1.9 ohms.

The eGo-C Twist is a whole lot smaller, will also take eGo-threaded vaporizers, gives more power, and it gives the same power for 95% of the charging cycle. When I feel the performance dropping, it's only a few puffs and the charge is completely out and the battery shuts itself down.

I'd definitely go with a Twist or a Spinner instead of the LT. Spinner has a 1300mAh version that costs less than half of the LT.

Edit: I know I'm pretty alone on this boat, but I don't buy it that the Provari would be ten times as good as the Twist. Don't fool yourself into buying something you only think you need. The Twist/Spinner will give the same vape than the Provari unless you are using something like a 3.5 ohm or higher carto. What you pay for is pretty much unrelated to the actual performance.
If you feel that the Provari is worth it and worth lugging around, go ahead. I don't think it is.

The problem w/ pwm is that it fluctuates and even at the lowest setting, it will be much higher (the imotion(?) feels like 3.9 at 3.0 and you can't go lower than 3.0 on it), so it wouldn't work too well IMO w/ LR stuff, unless you like a really hot vape.

I was one of those people that thought an ego twist was as good as a provari, but I kept having them break and IMO the qc on them is terrible, so I finally gave up on them and got myself a provari mini. I know everyone says this but once you get a provari you will never look back, compared to my twists its like a fog machine and somehow makes the juice taste better, which I never would have believed before owning them (especially since its only a battery mod) but in terms of vapor production, vape quality and overall quality it is just.... better. We had to buy one for my gf because she kept stealing mine and doesn't want her ego twists anymore. Also, I don't "lug" my provari around, it's smaller than my smallest ego, and about half the size of my 1000mah twists.


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[Moueix]

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