Confused about burnt taste, VV battery, different coils?

[Downgraded286]

For a while now I've used simple standard eGo batteries with a Smok Aro II clearomizer. Some time ago on a whim I picked up a Ballistixx VV-VW battery, which seems a good bit more powerful than a standard eGo battery, even on the lowest setting in VW mode (4W I believe, the markings have worn off). However, at this setting it seems to burn my juice.

AFAIK, this means to use this setting I would need a coil with higher resistance (which should essentially mean more wire wrapped around in the coil?). But then, wouldn't I be right back where I started with similar power? How does sub-ohm vaping work, then? Shouldn't sub-ohm users be burning the crap out of their juice all the time? How are people pushing huge amounts of power (<50W) without burning?

 

[AXIOM_1]

If you replaced the ego battery with a more powerful one then even if you increase the coil resistance you will produce more power output due to the increased battery power --- yes if you were to increase the coil resistance without increasing battery voltage, then you would decrease the current through the coil which would decrease vapor production.

 

[tj99959]

It works just like your car engine. Combustion heats the engine, and the cooling system keeps the engine at the proper temperature.

So your power source & coil resistance heats your coil, and the air flow & e-liquid (wicking) keep the vape at your desired temperature.
This means that any given resistance will have it's ideal power level, airflow & wicking to maintain proper coil temperature.

My guess would be that your new battery, topper combination is reducing the air flow to the coil. Proving once again that not all eGo connectors are created equal.

 

[mattiem]

Over the years I have purchased 7 vision spinner 1300mAp batteries. All 7 are still in use. My last purchase was for 2 (one blue and one rainbow). the blue works just like the previous 5 I bought. The rainbow causes everything to taste burnt even at the lowest setting. I too use the Smok Aro II clearomizer most of the time. I rebuild all my coils @ 1.8.

All of this to say, maybe your VV battery isn't putting out what you have it set at kinda like my rainbow spinner. Have you thought about maybe picking up a different battery. I would suggest an istick 30. I have 2 and hubby has 2. So far they have been the perfect little battery unit for us.

 

[AXIOM_1]

To answer your other concern ---- Sub-ohm users do not burn up their wicks because their tanks/RDA's are designed to handle large amounts of power and produce large amounts of vapor via lots of airflow ---- Smaller wattage tanks are designed for lower wattage batteries that do not produce much power ---- If you install a small tank onto a higher wattage mod then you will get lots of burnt taste as the tank was not designed for lots of power. On the other hand if you do the opposite and place a high wattage tank on a small device then you will not get much vapor production.

Use the proper tank for whatever battery you use.

 

[Downgraded286]

Thanks for the info guys. I guess this tank just doesn't roll with the VV battery too well (unless maybe I get the higher ohm coil).

If I did get the higher ohm coil to balance it out, though, wouldn't I have similar vapor production as I would have with a regular, lower power eGo battery and the coils I already use?

 

[edyle]

For a while now I've used simple standard eGo batteries with a Smok Aro II clearomizer. Some time ago on a whim I picked up a Ballistixx VV-VW battery, which seems a good bit more powerful than a standard eGo battery, even on the lowest setting in VW mode (4W I believe, the markings have worn off). However, at this setting it seems to burn my juice.

AFAIK, this means to use this setting I would need a coil with higher resistance (which should essentially mean more wire wrapped around in the coil?). But then, wouldn't I be right back where I started with similar power? How does sub-ohm vaping work, then? Shouldn't sub-ohm users be burning the crap out of their juice all the time? How are people pushing huge amounts of power (<50W) without burning?

When you use thicker wire to make the coil, you tend to get lower ohms, and if you add a second coil, that halves the ohms; in both cases you end up a with a bigger coil system that needs more power to run it.
The name 'sub-ohm' doesn't really explain it.

 

[tj99959]

Thanks for the info guys. I guess this tank just doesn't roll with the VV battery too well (unless maybe I get the higher ohm coil).

If I did get the higher ohm coil to balance it out, though, wouldn't I have similar vapor production as I would have with a regular, lower power eGo battery and the coils I already use?

Every action creates a reaction. Kinda like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

I always try to enter from the back door by first determining what it is that I want. After I know what I want the vape to be like ...... then look for the products that can produce it.
But to be honest, in over 50 years of smoking I never once worried about how big a cloud a cigarette made. So "vapor production" is low man on the totem pole.

 

[DangVape]

Thanks for the info guys. I guess this tank just doesn't roll with the VV battery too well (unless maybe I get the higher ohm coil).

If I did get the higher ohm coil to balance it out, though, wouldn't I have similar vapor production as I would have with a regular, lower power eGo battery and the coils I already use?

It's not the ohm, is the wicking and airflow. High power need high airflow and great wicking. So if you buying prebuild coil that has not been design for high power, it going to burn,

Let say you put at 30W

with a 0.5 ohm your VW will output 3.8V

replace with a 2.0 ohm coil your VW will output 7.75V

So without proper airflow and wicking playing with the ohm doesn't help much. Since your putting too much power into the coil. As you can see increasing the ohm at the same wattage only increase the voltage output of your mod so burn both case without proper airflow and wicking

Now lower ohm prebuild "may" to be design to handle more power but because of the sub-ohm and cloud chasing fad the manufacturer want to get in. But I'm not familiar with your tank so it might not be able to handle high power at all.

EDIT: I just did a quick search on Smok Aro-II Clearomizer get an other tank I see the tiny airhole and tiny wick no way it's going to handle any kind of high power devices or even medium power devices

 

[sparkky1]

https://101vape.com/tanks/691-genuine-aerotank-v2-express-pack.html