Confused about TFA flavors from WL and TFA direct.

[ronchinoy]

Does anybody know if the flavors sold by WL as TFA flavors. Are the same as Flavors sold by TFA in terms of concentration.

I got all my flavors right with the flavors from WL.
Then decided to order in larger qty from TFA.

Tried following the same recipes and none seem to be working.

The only thing I can think off is that WL get a higher concentration.

Anybody else notice this difference ?.

My other theory is that the stuff WL sells is more aged. And the stuff from TFA is fresh.
The other theory is that Im just mad.

Did back to back tests over and over and they dont come out the same.

Did the same with other flavor companies i.e. Mt Baker vapor and Flavor west. Results are spot on.

 

[dannyv45]

There susposed to be but there have been complaints lately about the WL TFA consistancy. I order from TFA and don't have issues.

 

[ronchinoy]

Funny thing the WL stuff actually works better for me.
I had all the % worked out after a lot of time and effort using the WL stuff and now none are working with those numbers.
Dreading to do it all over.
Are people still updating that TFA master list ? With the numbers various % used ?.

 

[Visus]

I use wl flavors and they are 99% spot on mix to mix but I did receive one RY4 vial that was a little weak but ordered again and it is back to normal.

You just explained a lot to me about what happened there. I was thinking that maybe I got the top or bottom of the huge vat of juice they use to fill the vials now I know thats is correct..

RTS and WL tfa/tpa flavors I noted are the same in strength..



Whats uber surprising tho is that FA flavors are super concentrated so much so its unbelievable..

 

[crxess]

Possible 8ml vs 4oz Bottles

Flavoring has to steep same as any mix. Once a formula is blended it takes time to mature. The larger the volume the longer it will take.

 

[ronchinoy]

If your refering to the total qty it was the same in both cases. Just buy a lot of the same flavor.
It is possible that the flavors themselves have to steep by themselves before being used. The longer the better. I have noticed this when mixing formulations.