Confused about what pen is best/safest? Joytech, Halo, etc..?

[Bananadine]

Well, honestly, I'd go with a higher rating for the improved battery life, it draws less amps off the battery to crank a 2.5 ohm coil up to 4.5 volts than it does to to run a 1.8 ohm coil at 3.8 volts, but both of these will give you an 8 watt vape, which is what really matters. I mean, a 3.6 ohm coil would still hit 10 watts at 6 volts, which may be too hot for some people. Honestly, low resistance attomizers/heads are for fixed voltage devices, not variable volts where you can just crank it up higher for less battery cost.

Oh? So higher would be better in this one, shame the higher ones are out of stock....maybe I should look elsewhere for them.

One other thing, regarding his quitting and taking up vaping. When I did it, I thought I'd give it a try to see how it went but made a commitment to give it an honest shot. I wasn't disappointed. However he should understand, it is not going to give him the same "kick" that cigarettes do. It doesn't have all of those other chemicals that enhance the nicotine hit that cigarettes have in them. It does calm the nicotine craving and does so good enough to start realizing some of the health benefits of switching. There's a learning curve to it, but it's well worth the effort. I would advise whatever you buy, try to keep it simple and of good quality or it will become too frustrating to stick with.

Yeah hopefully this isn't to complicated, a bit worried about that haha. Health wise this seems much better....then smoking for sure, gonna grab some organic liquids from Virgin Vapor I think...hopefully they taste alright.

From what I understand, the Protank (PT) 3 Mini uses the dual coil heads that the Aerotank uses. I've used the heads from the Protank 2 in the Aerotank, but you have to add and invert a silicone washer or it will leak. I really couldn't recommend the PT3 Mini for someone starting out. The Kanger EVOD or the PT2 Mini are absolutely great clearomizers to start with, and paired with either the Ego C-Twist or the Itaste VV V3, it makes a great combination for home or out and about. I have both and use them with the PT2 Mini for 90% of my vaping. They're portable, trouble free for the most part and the heads are reasonably priced if you don't want to bother with rebuilding them. (I'm using one now as I type this.)

This is the PT2 Mini on an Ego C-Twist 1000 mAh battery.

Here's the PT2 Mini on the Itaste MVP

The Kanger EVOD or the PT2 Mini would be better? I will look into them also, 101vape doesn't seem to have them.

The PT3 Mini will leak? Bummer....101vape carries that one.

 

[imsoenthused]

ok, looked up the specs, iTaste vv does 5 volts with an 11 watt max. So do get the most range out of the device you'll want to find heads as close to 2.2 ohms as possible. Not sure what the options are on those, but that would be the ideal oHm rating for that device, giving you a full range of wattage.

 

[Bananadine]

ok, looked up the specs, iTaste vv does 5 volts with an 11 watt max. So do get the most range out of the device you'll want to find heads as close to 2.2 ohms as possible. Not sure what the options are on those, but that would be the ideal oHm rating for that device, giving you a full range of wattage.

Ahh I see, 2.2 is out on that site, I am thinking based on molimelight post I might wanna rethink that one anyways.

Would the Protank 2 be better on the itaste then the Protank mini 2? Or is it the other way around and I was also looking at ones that have more metal then glass like the Kanger EVOD Glass, would that have any issues with the iTaste? Says it takes the same heads as the protank 3.

 

[ElConquistador]

My only comment on the "non" mini Protanks (the large size) is that they're quite a bit bigger and heavier and make a "pen style" battery pretty top heavy, I think they come with a ring that makes the transition from small battery to bigger tank, but to me, it's kind of weird when I put a big tank on a small battery (but that's not a huge deal). Just seems that new vapers seems to prefer a smaller, more familiar shape.

As far as ohms, I rebuild mine to 1.6 to 1.8 ohms and run them at about 7 ohms, sometimes a little higher, and it works fine for me on the little VV3 battery.

Not to add to your confusion, but I've been using Kanger T3S tanks, a smaller diameter, bottom coil plastic tank with 3 ml capacity and have been happy with them. Since I rebuild, I haven't bought any in many months, so I just assume they're still available, but I do like them and they're only about $6. They use replacement heads similar to the protank heads.

 

[molimelight]

Ahh I see, 2.2 is out on that site, I am thinking based on molimelight post I might wanna rethink that one anyways.

Would the Protank 2 be better on the itaste then the Protank mini 2? Or is it the other way around and I was also looking at ones that have more metal then glass like the Kanger EVOD Glass, would that have any issues with the iTaste? Says it takes the same heads as the protank 3.

Sorry, I hope I didn't confuse you more. Kanger recently came out with a new line of their clearomizers. Originally they had the Protank 2, the Protank 2 Mini and the Evod. All of those take the same atomizer head, a single coil head. They then came out with the Aerotank, the Protank 3, the Protank 3 Mini, and the Evod 2, which all use the dual coil atomizer heads. Here's a photo of the difference in the heads:

In the photo, the red arrow shows the difference in the shoulder height to accommodate the dual coils (the red arrow) and it shows how the single coil head for the Protank 2 can be modified with an extra silicone washer to work in the newer dual coil tanks. (orange arrow). I tried that, and had inconsistent success in the Aerotank. The leakage I was talking about wasn't leaking out of the clearomizer, but more like flooding where you'd wind up drawing in some fluid when vaping. Not fun.

I've tried the Protank II and the Evod, and think the Protank 2 Mini is worth the extra money over the Evod. It's easier to see to fill and it has a glass tank which won't react with any of the juices.

When I started out, I bought all my stuff from this place. They are about 10% higher than some of the other low price places, but they seem to carry most every manufacturer, Innokin, Joye Tech, and Kanger, and they have everything in stock. If you go over $75.00 shipping is free. If nothing else it's a well organized site to compare things and read reviews. Here's the links to the stuff you've been thinking about:

Ego C-Twist

Itaste VV V3

Kanger Evod (Only $4.99!)

Kanger Protank 2 Mini

Kanger Atomizer Heads (They have the 2.2 Ohm heads.)

Once you get started, if you have a vape shop near where you live, you can probably pick up 5-Packs of the Kanger heads, which are cheaper usually than buying them individually. Depending on how much one vapes, and the juice used, the coils will last a week or two, which considering the price of cigarettes, is pretty cheap.

When I started out, I did the same thing you are doing and many others have done, researched and asked a lot of questions. I then bought some decent equipment and found that I could do this. It was a great relief after 30 years of smoking and trying everything else under the sun to quit smoking! From talking to people in the "smoking area" at work, the single thing that I've seen as the cause of people not sticking with it is cheap knock off equipment. Good luck, and stick with it. It's a bit overwhelming at first, but you'll get past he learning curve quicker than you think.

 

[gandymarsh]

I used to be a big fan of the Protank 3 mini. I have 3. I recently bought 2 Protank 2 minis and I believe they are the better choice. Single coil heads are easier to rebuild and work better on small batteries. Dual coils eat up juice like crazy and drain batteries quicker. The vapor and flavor are about the same. The small size is a matter of personal preference. Smaller looks better on small batteries and you can change juices without wasting much. Bigger tanks are the opposite but a fill up will last longer. This is where I bought my Protank 2 minis. They also have the VV3 and MVP. Mini Protank 2 Single I also bought a 5-pack of 2.5 ohm coils and I'm using one now. They work great.

 

[jandry]

One other thing, regarding his quitting and taking up vaping. When I did it, I thought I'd give it a try to see how it went but made a commitment to give it an honest shot. I wasn't disappointed. However he should understand, it is not going to give him the same "kick" that cigarettes do. It doesn't have all of those other chemicals that enhance the nicotine hit that cigarettes have in them. It does calm the nicotine craving and does so good enough to start realizing some of the health benefits of switching. There's a learning curve to it, but it's well worth the effort. I would advise whatever you buy, try to keep it simple and of good quality or it will become too frustrating to stick with.

I understand where youre coming from, but I have to disagree Cigs have more kick than a blu yes. I think personally this is a subjective thing. I have an MVP 2/protank 2/adjustable airbase, and with Sucker Punch 18 eliquid I can say I have an easier draw, stronger kick, and better flavor than cigarettes. I have zero desire for the stinkies..

I do recognize this could be different for different people, but if you find the right mix of gear and liquid, I think modern vaporizers can actually trump cigs in virtually all areas (taste, kick, cost, and most probably health). This is just my .02

 

[imsoenthused]

I understand where youre coming from, but I have to disagree Cigs have more kick than a blu yes. I think personally this is a subjective thing. I have an MVP 2/protank 2/adjustable airbase, and with Sucker Punch 18 eliquid I can say I have an easier draw, stronger kick, and better flavor than cigarettes. I have zero desire for the stinkies..

I do recognize this could be different for different people, but if you find the right mix of gear and liquid, I think modern vaporizers can actually trump cigs in virtually all areas (taste, kick, cost, and most probably health). This is just my .02

The only reason that doesn't hold out is that the nicotine in cigarettes is freebase. That makes a vaporizer vs a cigarette more like the difference between snorting a certain white powder of Columbian import as opposed to smoking it out of a glass pipe.

 

[Bananadine]

I see, yeah this is a lot to take in, gotta read through it again, the reason I was looking at the Kanger EVOD Glass over the Protank 2 mini is because of the metal casing over the glass, guessing there are none like this that use 1 coil for better battery and don't leak or are easy to use? Still probably gonna grab the Innokin iTaste VV at 101vape since its 28 shipped, kinda wish that site had more Glassomizers to choose from but hopefully I can find somewhere with decent shipping for that once I decide on one haha.....

As of now the Protank 2 mini seems like the best pick, just wish it had a metal housing like the EVOD Glass. I might be asking for to much haha....

Any opinions on this one? http://www.myvaporstore.com/Glass_Vision_V_Fate_Nova_2_0ml_p/vs-vf20.htm

 

[molimelight]

I see, yeah this is a lot to take in, gotta read through it again, the reason I was looking at the Kanger EVOD Glass over the Protank 2 mini is because of the metal casing over the glass, guessing there are none like this that use 1 coil for better battery and don't leak or are easy to use? Still probably gonna grab the Innokin iTaste VV at 101vape since its 28 shipped, kinda wish that site had more Glassomizers to choose from but hopefully I can find somewhere with decent shipping for that once I decide on one haha.....

As of now the Protank 2 mini seems like the best pick, just wish it had a metal housing like the EVOD Glass. I might be asking for to much haha....

Any opinions on this one? Glass Vision V-Fate Nova Tank - 2.0ml

I think the Innokin VV V3 is a good choice. I have one that I use regularly at home. The nice thing about it is the read out of voltage and battery life. It's built really well also, and comes with the wall and USB charger.

If you're worried about breakage with the Protank 2 Mini, I've dropped mine several times onto everything from carpeting to concrete (I have three of them.) and haven't broken one yet. Maybe I'm just lucky but I haven't heard of it being a glaring weakness of them with many people mentioning breaking the glass. You can order replacement glass for them at only $3.00 each, which I did as a precaution. I would also encourage you to buy two of whatever you settle on. It's always good to have a backup in case something messes up in one or if you want to try two different juices. It will prevent grabbing for the cigarettes if something messes up the clearomizer and give you time to sort it out and replace the head or whatever you need to do. Or you could order one Protank 2 Mini and one Evod, as they take the same heads and make the decision as to which one is preferred.

Ready for more information/confusion? The one you point out above is a "top coil" clearomizer. The Kanger ones that we've discussed are bottom coil clearomizers. The difference is in the placement of the coil and the wicks. The Kanger ones have the coil at the bottom and it wicks juice from the bottom of the tank. As a result the wicks are small and barely stick out of both sides of the head. The Vivi ones like the one you pointed out have the coil at the top and the wicks are long tails that dip down into the juice to wick it up into the head. I tried the Vivi Nova which is similar to that one when I first started and found the bottom coil ones much simpler to change the heads in and more consistent in performance. They have their fans, maybe someone who uses them regularly can talk about their virtues.

It sounds like yo u are on your way though, Once you order the Innokin Itaste you'll feel better. I know I did when I got to the point where I made a decision and ordered my stuff.

 

[dirty_luck]

Honestly the pen types are about all the same. Just different wrappers.

 

[Bananadine]

Honestly the pen types are about all the same. Just different wrappers.

I am just a bit iffy on the battery quality, I showed him the itaste in a video, he didn't seem to like it(Personally I do from what I have seen so far in vids...), he did however like this one since he liked the twisting top over small buttons.

Kanger EVOD V V

Same as the eCom-C Twist from what I gather for much less....unless I am mistaken.


I am just confused because the photo says 650mAh and the description says 1000mAh, this site actually has the iTazte for 23.50, not sure why its spellled iTazte....typo perhaps?

 

[r77r7r]

the itazte is only available in 800mah right now as low as $25. The Kanger is nice, tho its only VV but that's fine.

 

[molimelight]

I am just a bit iffy on the battery quality, I showed him the itaste in a video, he didn't seem to like it(Personally I do from what I have seen so far in vids...), he did however like this one since he liked the twisting top over small buttons.

Kanger EVOD V V

Same as the eCom-C Twist from what I gather for much less....unless I am mistaken.


I am just confused because the photo says 650mAh and the description says 1000mAh, this site actually has the iTazte for 23.50, not sure why its spellled iTazte....typo perhaps?

Your link goes to the Kanger IPOW, here's the link to the Kanger EVOD. It's 1000 mAh to 1600 mAh.

And as was mentioned above, the battery technology has been around for a bit so they are all pretty close to the same. I have the Ego C-Twist in 650 mAh and 1000 mAh and am very happy with them both.

 

[imsoenthused]

My sister uses nothing but ego twists, and her only complaint is that they aren't very rugged. She wears them on a lanyard where they get bumped into stuff at work all day and they only last her a few months before they fall apart. literally, they separate between the tube and the head, usually breaking the wires at the same time. That said, she loves them, and says they'd last just fine if she wasn't constantly banging them in to things on the end of that lanyard.

 

[Beatlemania]

My sister uses nothing but ego twists, and her only complaint is that they aren't very rugged. She wears them on a lanyard where they get bumped into stuff at work all day and they only last her a few months before they fall apart. literally, they separate between the tube and the head, usually breaking the wires at the same time. That said, she loves them, and says they'd last just fine if she wasn't constantly banging them in to things on the end of that lanyard.

I got an EVOD clone as my first vape, for a test run. It was an awesome piece but I managed to pop the top off as he said, within 8 hours. Had I been smart I would have just glued it back on and let it go but I ended up pulling the wires apart. Other than it's a great mod, I used another battery with the tank and still getting decent results. IMO it makes for a great starter, just treat it with care or glue the head on first sign of it coming loose.

 

[R Coy]

Show him an MVP. I have both evods with the window and pt2 minis and they both seem to work well.

 

[Bananadine]

My sister uses nothing but ego twists, and her only complaint is that they aren't very rugged. She wears them on a lanyard where they get bumped into stuff at work all day and they only last her a few months before they fall apart. literally, they separate between the tube and the head, usually breaking the wires at the same time. That said, she loves them, and says they'd last just fine if she wasn't constantly banging them in to things on the end of that lanyard.

Are the Vision Spinner VV any more durable, he is usually working with tools and breaking things apart all day haha....not sure how the twists will hold up..the spinners look the same though function wise.

 

[VLadies]

We started with an ego-c twist and immediately bought an mvp 2.0 within a week. The twist has been a good little battery but man, the mvp lasts so much longer and the bigger tanks feel better sitting on it. They are top heavy when I put them on the twist. With the price of the Mvp being lower than $40 I think it's the way to go. Especially for a man. The twist is sorta lady-like Imo..


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[imsoenthused]

Sorry, when I said ego twist, I was including all the clones, like the vision spinner, or the kanger e-vod. She has bought and used all of them. They're all pretty much identical.