Confused Again

[DanR]

I have the following flavors:
Cured tobacco
Desert Ship Blend
Black Honey
Black Fire
Cowboy Blend
RY4 Double
All 30ml bottles. Now because my time is so limited, I usually just pour the whole bottle into the mix and go from there. But this time I would like to do it right (if I can). I know everyone likes their smoke to be one way or another way. What is the standard (just starting off) should I use in my mix? 15% (30ml)? 10% (20ml)? or what? I usually just use the same pg/vg for all of them.
Below is a picture of what my ejuice me up calculator has.
Thanks All
Dan

 

[smacuser]

I’d start from here:

Cured tobacco FLV 3%
Desert Ship Blend FA 2%
Black Honey TFA 5%
Black Fire FA 1.5%
Cowboy Blend FA 2%
RY4 Double TFA 7.5%

It’s important to note which manufacturers you are using because many will use the same flavor name, but their percentages will differ. I went with the most popular ones. As long as your ratios are correct, you can make as little or as much as you like. The percentage of flavor does not change no matter how much you make. I’d start smaller quantities in case you make them too weak or too strong.

 

[the wind]

I’d start from here:

Cured Tobacco FLV 3%
Desert Ship Blend FA 2%
Black Honey TFA 5%
Black Fire FA 1.5%
Cowboy Blend FA 2%
RY4 Double TFA 7.5%

As long as your ratios are correct, you can make as little or as much as you like. I’d start small in case you make them too weak or too strong.

black fire must be FIRE

 

[smacuser]

black fire must be FIRE

Never used it myself, but from what I gather, folks add it to other tobaccos create that ash/burnt taste. I’m sure a little goes a long way, kind of like INW Dirty Neutral Base.

Btw - if you plan on mixing two or more of these tobaccos, you’ll want to make your percentages are even lower. In the case of @DanR I wouldn’t make the total flavor percentage over 4-5% unless using the RY4D.

 

[DanR]

I thank you all so far, but I like to taste of the single flavor I'm mixing. It's been awhile since I mixed is the reason why I'm asking. So you all think 10% is too high for them all?

 

[smacuser]

Doesn’t that seem correct?

Especially with tobaccos. They tend to be the most concentrated of flavorings.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

I thank you all so far, but I like to taste of the single flavor I'm mixing. It's been awhile since I mixed is the reason why I'm asking. So you all think 10% is too high for them all?

Yes, 10% would be way too high for any of the flavors posted.

I would go with the percents @smacuser posted.

When in doubt, always start low. That way you can always add more flavor, if needed.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

I thank you all so far, but I like to taste of the single flavor I'm mixing.

Also... FLV and FA flavors are much more highly concentrated versus the TFA flavors. That's why the percents Smac gave are lower.

 

[smacuser]

I thank you all so far, but I like to taste of the single flavor I'm mixing. It's been awhile since I mixed is the reason why I'm asking. So you all think 10% is too high for them all?

Your welcome

 

[DanR]

I have listen and obey with the percentages. One last question before I put this puppy to bed. Okay so I go with smacuser suggestions. I make up a 200 ml of each flavor. I vape one and find that it's nothing. How many drops should I add to the batch to up it. For example: She says to start off with Desert Ship Blend FA 2% in this 200 ml batch. I fill my 50ml bottle up with the juice and find that there is no flavor or very little flavor. So I'm thinking, okay so I put what 3 drops into the 50ml? I do this and find that the flavor is coming along now. So how many drops would I put in the 150ml bottle? I'm not trying to make this hard, just simple for me to understand and try. But I thank you.
Dan

 

[Chiisaiinu]

@DanR How long between when you made the batch till you tried it? Just wondering if it needs to steep a bit for the flavor to come out.

 

[smacuser]

If at all possible, start with smaller test batches, say 10-30mls each total, so you don’t waste your valuable nicotine if it’s not to your liking.

You really need to use a calculator because flavoring is going to change your Pg/Vg ratio. Typically, your going to want to use less Pg or Vg to compensate.

What nic strength are you shooting for?
What device are you using?
How many watts and ohms?

I mix at 65pg/35vg, and vape at 9 watts with my atomizer at around 1.2 ohms.

An important detail @Chiisaiinu brought up, especially with tobaccos, some can take up to 4 weeks before the flavor is right. You can vape it right away, but the flavor will change more or less as it steeps.

As an example, here is my first test batch of RY4 Double:

 

[the wind]

I mix at 65pg/35vg,

View attachment 973891

wow: thought my 50/50 was extreme.must make for some stealth vaping.

 

[smacuser]

wow: thought my 50/50 was extreme.must make for some stealth vaping.

Good point Wind. I like higher PG for better viscosity and throat hit and feel my builds last longer. Though, I can still produce some cloudz.

My nic strength is now at 12mg. If DanR is going to be using a GV Zeus X tank with 0.2 mesh coil at 30+ watts, he might aim for 3-5mg nic strength and consider my flavor percentage as max and may want to go lower.