confusion on my new ingulgence

Status
Not open for further replies.

mwa102464

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Oct 14, 2009
14,447
12,564
Outside of the Philadelphia Burbs, NJ & Fla
I dont get this at all about the HV Attys VS the standard Atty's, why would you want to run a standard Atty at 7.4v or even at 6v I have blown Atty's like this many of times Rick, this is why they came out with HV Atty'S when the HV mods came out. you better fill me in a bit more if ya would please
 
Last edited:

jgdovin

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Feb 16, 2010
288
53
40
Jacksonville, FL
www.vapornine.com
mwa102464: I got the HV 510 atty to work fine, but from what I understand, those being a higher Ohm rating, decrease the voltage slightly so you aren't getting the true HV experience. I want to use regular atties at my own discretion, I know it may shorten the life, but many others do it with great success.
 

mwa102464

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Oct 14, 2009
14,447
12,564
Outside of the Philadelphia Burbs, NJ & Fla
JG I guess I understand, however they sell HV Attys at different OHMS, Ive been vaping for over a year now and have just had bad luck with blowing Atty's on high volts and a whole lot of em so ya I guess if you want to risk blowing them I understand no big deal, I also find that using reg Attys at High voltage make the juice taste very burnt, are you experiancing this or not ??? fill me in if ya would I have been using HV for quite some time now, and just this week went back to 3.7 with the new Low Resistance Atty's that have hit the market and im finding them to produce as much if not more vapor with the juice tasting better as well.

If you would could you also fill me in what Rick is saying on these 3.7 Batts not fitting in eastmalls unit, I have been running them all night in it with no problem closing my end cap with no problem what so ever and also running an eastmall EM5 HV Atty on the HV and its been working really good producing plumes of vapor out of my indulgenve
 
Last edited:

mudmanc4

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 22, 2009
2,877
4,610
In The Plex
kb.lime-it.us
hahaha ok, well I am one of those crazies that flood my attty's, I have been laughed at , and told off so many times about this, but hey, I just wipe the mess as I make it.
As far as the nickel heating up and hardening then ( blowing ) , nickel heated like that will cause an air-hardening effect. Becuse the structure of the metal itself is of a lattice type kinda like salt grains, before heating, so if we keep if wet (keeping the cavities in the metal full ) and cooled, as not to make the crystal structures into a face centered structure, more or less repelling the liquid and over time (could be one second ) allowing the metal to come into contact with oxygen and form ferrous oxide, or transforming it into hypo eutectoid state which will cause the coil to harden and turn brittle.

I could have it a little off, been a while lol but you get the idea. Keep it wet.

This is why I don't use the tampon in the cart, it works by capillary action to draw in the liquid over the bridge and into the mesh under the ceramic cup, ( I understand heat has an effect on this as well ) , and when we draw in air it purportedly pulls in tiny particles from the mesh, and spills them onto the coil.

Now this works, but is it efficient ? No. It allows the mesh just enough moisture to keep the flow going, of course until the cart runs dry, then the action stop, and read the above paragraph. And your ...... that your oh so new atty ( blew and was defective ), tripe ! lol

Ah yes, the burnt taste, thats a dry atty my friend, and then you get the burnt stuffing taste as it drys out........keep it wet !

Interesting thats you were able to fit the 18350's in, good, but thats a line I dont need to cross at this point lol

Enough ? Or more ?

rick

I dont get this at all about the HV Attys VS the standard Atty's, why would you want to run a standard Atty at 7.4v or even at 6v I have blown Atty's like this many of times Rick, this is why they came out with HV Atty'S when the HV Mods came out. you better fill me in a bit more if ya would please
 
Last edited:

mwa102464

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Oct 14, 2009
14,447
12,564
Outside of the Philadelphia Burbs, NJ & Fla
I flood my HV Attys as well but use a filler, the blue foam, works great and keep em wet, however Rick I would be my vape juice taste way better than your burnt juice running HV Attys compared to regular attys at 6v up to 7.4 v, now as for those top caps you owe me 5 of em,,,, hahahahahahahahah you have my address from my account and I will place an order for some more HV Attys if ya wanna put those gold top caps in that order for me let me know OK, HEHEHEEHAHAHAHAHA YOUR still the best Rick
 

mwa102464

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Oct 14, 2009
14,447
12,564
Outside of the Philadelphia Burbs, NJ & Fla
Rick you better get one of those driooing tips quick too so you can just poor you e-liquid right down the shoot into your Atty. I would bet thought that your wire contacts and your center contact spring will blow quickly vaping like this, heck just use a HV Atty y friend, much better tasting juice this way too and fin the lowest resistance HV Atty you can, you must have dibbs over there at EM and some say on what Ohms they build there Attys at the plant you buy them from.!!!
 
Sticks to 401 & modified 801.
the 510 & 901 just never cut it with me.
But I have run my 510 @6v Yes Standard not HV
Admits it tasted better & actually vaped better.
But no where near my 401

Likes my Indulgence
Would love it If they would have implemented a better Cap Design
1 cap per adapter with a Slot preventing them spinning.
But doubt's I will ever see it.
Unless I order again...
Wish they would just send me the caps & I will make my own. LOL
Oh ya and replacement fixed 808 & 801 adapter
 
Last edited:

mudmanc4

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 22, 2009
2,877
4,610
In The Plex
kb.lime-it.us
Well I cannot promise you there's any of those style caps left, like I say, I will inquire.

As for my supposed burnt taste,there is none , whatsoever. It's the only way I will vape, now from time to time, such as yesterday, I crammed a 510 on the ext cup w/ a pair of 3.2's and headed down to pavement, all I can say is the tampon went rolling to the back of the sliding bin that used to be over filled with butts stinkin up the place, it looked back up at me with all teared up eye's and a quivering lower lip, I turned my head with chin up and I heard a loud outburst of sobbing, I felt so badly, that when i got back home, I placed the thing in the Tupperware with the rest of them, it was glad to be reunited. And so was I with my dripping 5 month old 510 atty with VG based coffee flavored vapor fogging 6v indulgence :D
 

mudmanc4

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 22, 2009
2,877
4,610
In The Plex
kb.lime-it.us
Nope, but I do have an atty that will take 7 v dry until it wipes out a set !!!!!!!!!!!!!! And then another fresh set ;)
Rick you better get one of those driooing tips quick too so you can just poor you e-liquid right down the shoot into your Atty. I would bet thought that your wire contacts and your center contact spring will blow quickly vaping like this, heck just use a HV Atty y friend, much better tasting juice this way too and fin the lowest resistance HV Atty you can, you must have dibbs over there at EM and some say on what Ohms they build there Attys at the plant you buy them from.!!!
 

mwa102464

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Oct 14, 2009
14,447
12,564
Outside of the Philadelphia Burbs, NJ & Fla
Rick I so thought for real I was getting all those gold caps with my unit and what sold me on it, if you could find me a set you would be my hero buddy, and I agree Kuya Dave on the spining of those inserts, if they threaded them it would of been very nice. I have to bring my metal shop over there and show your guys some tricks I think, hey Kuya wanna take a trip to the far east part of the world, hahahahah
 

jrjacobs

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 27, 2009
88
11
SoCal
Boy this thread got really off topic! :p

Anyway - I think we need to know why the indulgence does not work at the higher voltages? Seems like a big selling point to this ecig is that it can make 6 and 7 volts, but this feature is not working.

How many others are experiencing this problem?

I have no idea what could cause it unless there is a circuit inside the indulgence device.
 

mudmanc4

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 22, 2009
2,877
4,610
In The Plex
kb.lime-it.us
There are no circuits inside the device.

It does work at high voltages, there are many people with them with no problems, like I say, whoever has a problem, then please , by all means, contact me and start a ticket with me at eastmallcs@gmail.com.

I will simply replace the entire device instead of messing around trying to figure out whats going on.


EDIT , if you purchased the device somewhere other then eastmall, then please contact the place you purchased it from.
rick
Boy this thread got really off topic! :p

Anyway - I think we need to know why the indulgence does not work at the higher voltages? Seems like a big selling point to this ecig is that it can make 6 and 7 volts, but this feature is not working.

How many others are experiencing this problem?

I have no idea what could cause it unless there is a circuit inside the indulgence device.
 
Last edited:

dskarpus

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Jul 25, 2009
515
11
Manhattan Upper West Side
I can't follow what you are all talking about. Don't even try to explain it to me. I bought 4 Indulgences and configured them differently, but HV with 6V configuration and regular at 3.7V. I am thoroughly pleased. I even kind of like the tri-tone Titanium. I'm getting to the point. I was just at my local Vapers party here in NYC. I brought all my Indulgences and V3. Everyone was impressed. There were modders and suppliers who tried them and there were no real complaints. I managed to pick up some Delrin drip tips for various models, a low voltage 510 atomizer, some new tobacco flavors and a homemade 7.2 box mod. My box overfloweth. I haven't ordered the Riva yet and the new website is still coming soon. Everything is so good as constituted. I am still trying to figure which flavors, attys, models and voltages I like best. Don't get me wrong - this problem is interesting. I asked the suppliers at the meeting about voltages (I want to see if any of my discarded attys and batteries are any good so I can give them away in good conscience) and they tried to educate me on points like this thread. I appreciate your hard work and research on these points. I find them interesting from a theoretical standpoint and I really hope you figure out this conundrum. Please, when you figure something like this out, give a full summary of the problem, reasoning and solution. I find it very disturbing to follow a thread, get lost halfway then you guys figure it out, and if I encounter the same problem am embarrassed to even bring it up. As an example, the chargers included with the original stick are different from the chargers included with the Indulgence and I have 3.2v, 3.6v, and 3.7v batteries. The modders told me that various of these types of these batteries may not be what is printed on them. Thank you all.
 

mudmanc4

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 22, 2009
2,877
4,610
In The Plex
kb.lime-it.us
I do not know whats going on, but i will get to the bottom of this, where did you get your indulgence please ?

rick
I got a gold indulgence this week and works great on 3.7 but nothing on 6v, any suggestions, the batteries are fully charged in 3.0 charger.
 

mudmanc4

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 22, 2009
2,877
4,610
In The Plex
kb.lime-it.us
Guy's , I think whats going on here, is that the spring in the bottom f the large cup is not making good contact , therefore not transferring the the current through the body.

Althoguh I do not have one here in front of me, I do have an assistant right now working this out with me. ( I think lol )

So either remove the spring, and see if there is manufacturing debris from the plating near the bottom inside the cup, if so, grab something and attempt to clear it out. It might only look like a dark film, none the less, it might be stopping it from making good contact.

rick
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread