Congressman's reply to FDA regulation

Status
Not open for further replies.

Berylanna

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 13, 2012
2,043
3,287
south Bay Area, California
www.facebook.com
I am impressed u got a response - emails I sent have yet to be read - lol

I have had DRASTICALLY better luck if I make an appt to talk to a staffer in person at the rep's local office.

The WORST luck I had was taking 5 mins at an in-person sign-up coffee where one signs up first-come-first served at 8am and waits in line for their 5 minutes.

If you can't do that, write a letter (or email, if it's U.S. Senate or House or above because the DC officials' snail mail gets held for Anthrax until it's stomped on and mouldy and unreadable.)

But in-person visits count like several hundred emails.
 

Petrodus

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Oct 12, 2010
7,702
8,132
Midwest
Bwhahaha
I sent a check for a "capitol flag". Never was acknowledged as received, flag was never sent,
complaints were ignored. Check sure was cashed fast though.
1-Tongue2_zpsf8a0dd3d.gif
 

telsie

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 26, 2009
624
165
Maryland
The only response I've received so far was from Congressman Elijah Cummings and it was a form letter that starts with...

"Thank you for your recent correspondence regarding the government shutdown. I appreciate hearing from you regarding this critical issue."

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Obviously neither he nor his email handler even looked at my email because it was about electronic cigarettes and the FDA, not the government shutdown! :-x
 

Pinggolfer

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 28, 2013
6,891
18,798
The Clemson Tigers State
And another thing(sorry politics gets me worked up), a simple start would be for all these companies that sell to us would be to put up a small percentage of their profit to support the cause in an organized, concerted effort, which would be beneficial to everyone. And perhaps a wise investment on their part. Ok enough rambling, I'm willing to put some of my hard-earned money up, but like everyone else, I don't have alot and have a hard time doing so when I don't think it will effect the outcome.

If every e-cig vendor or company would chip in some of their profits for this cause it would amount to a drop in the bucket as Big tobacco has billions to fight the e-cig users. I agree they should help and start petitions but in the end we lose. Republicans or Democrats couldn't care less.
 

aikanae1

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 2, 2013
8,423
26,259
az
Please note that Rep. Kilmer is a liberal Democrat, and that Democrats (especially liberal Dems) are more likely to support the Obama administration on most policy issues than are Republicans.

But at least we are now on the radar screen of many members of Congress, which is very important as this process proceeds.

Congressional staffers keep a tally of Pro and Con letters/calls they receive on many different bills and issues.

If/when the issue comes up for a hearing, vote or other action, members of Congress (just like state and local officials) consider the amount of Pro and Con letters/calls before taking a position.

I honestly don't think it matters who the president is when the FDA is owned by BP, and BP is probably larger than the gov't anyway. There are numerous decisions that the FDA has made which contradicts "interest in the public" and favors BP profits. This is not new.

There are hundreds, if not thousands of interests that reps have to vote on. It's impossible for them to independently research every single one. They rely on summary's prepared for them and guess what ... those summary's are going to quote the FDA and CDC.

I've seen this with other industries in that getting independent information into "the bubble" has been the biggest challenge. It usually starts with one rep listening, one doubting the information, one realizing that everything they thought was wrong, tainted, biased. They pass the word on - a bill or whatever (step 2).

I can tell you that lines like "nicotine isn't harmful" won't create the necessary doubt needed to bust the infomation bubble, true or not. Instead, that line sounds like a tobacco-funded front groups like they organized in the 80's and 90's.

Most people take 30 seconds to 2 minutes to get an impression. I think that's why, for the most party, telling a version of your personal story and what ecigs has meant for you is the most universially appealing direction. I have known people who were helped from elected reps, as strangers, from both sides of the aisle, so I'm not so quick to believe they don't feel some sort of responsibility. Getting them to read the letter helps and starting off with a personal appeal may be a way to do it.

I think this rep is asking for more information. He's not stating his personal opinion on the matter. He's giving the information he has on the issue that formed his opinion. That is all he said. For that reason, I think personal contact is better - even better is to do all 3 or 4 forms of contact.
 

Pickleskunk

Full Member
Sep 23, 2013
60
96
Angleton, Tx
If every e-cig vendor or company would chip in some of their profits for this cause it would amount to a drop in the bucket as Big Tobacco has billions to fight the e-cig users. I agree they should help and start petitions but in the end we lose. Republicans or Democrats couldn't care less.

If e-cigarettes are truly less harmful than analogs, then the truth should prevail in the end. Imagine a testimonial commercial with people who have smoking related cancer/illnesses urging for support because they tried everything else to quit to no avail, but ecigs worked-if only they had access to ecigs earlier in life, and now the mean old FDA wants to shut the industry down. Meanwhile study quotes and facts about ecigs are flashing across the screen as they plea for public support. I would think that these types of campaigns would have great effect, as almost everyone knows someone that they wished used ecigs instead of analogs.
 

Myk

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Jan 1, 2009
4,889
10,658
IL, USA
If e-cigarettes are truly less harmful than analogs, then the truth should prevail in the end. Imagine a testimonial commercial with people who have smoking related cancer/illnesses urging for support because they tried everything else to quit to no avail, but ecigs worked-if only they had access to ecigs earlier in life, and now the mean old FDA wants to shut the industry down. Meanwhile study quotes and facts about ecigs are flashing across the screen as they plea for public support. I would think that these types of campaigns would have great effect, as almost everyone knows someone that they wished used ecigs instead of analogs.

Campaigns take money.
The truth does not always win. If it did there wouldn't be any smoking bans which were based on the second hand smoke studies. But did you know the second hand smoke studies actually have the conclusion that there is very little danger to being around second hand smoke? The truth was lied about and restudied to bury that truth so deeply that the lie became accepted as the truth.
 

Jay-dub

Moved On
Oct 10, 2013
934
1,607
Kansas City, MO
Are you guys aware that the NFL has banned e-cigs and the like? My sister works at the stadium here in KC (undefeated). She claims it's NFL policy. She can take analogues to work though... Anyway, I'm not sure if the band is for fans or staff so if anyone gets turned away from a NFL game for having and e-cig on them I'd be curious to know.
 

Petrodus

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Oct 12, 2010
7,702
8,132
Midwest
Are you guys aware that the NFL has banned e-cigs and the like? My sister works at the stadium here in KC (undefeated). She claims it's NFL policy. She can take analogues to work though... Anyway, I'm not sure if the band is for fans or staff so if anyone gets turned away from a NFL game for having and e-cig on them I'd be curious to know.
EEK !!
OMG ... it looks like smoking ... Ban It !!
 

Myk

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Jan 1, 2009
4,889
10,658
IL, USA
Are you guys aware that the NFL has banned e-cigs and the like? My sister works at the stadium here in KC (undefeated). She claims it's NFL policy. She can take analogues to work though... Anyway, I'm not sure if the band is for fans or staff so if anyone gets turned away from a NFL game for having and e-cig on them I'd be curious to know.

I know Soldier Field has had concerts sponsored by ecigs were ecig use was allowed.
I don't know about the NFL, I wouldn't pay that much for a ticket so they can make me carry my medical stuff in a clear bag, so they're already on my boycott list.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread